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NWR How to handle this...

I was talking to FMIL and she made a comment which made me wonder.  We were talking about family vacations.  They have been trying to go on vacation with us and our daughter for a few years.  I on the other hand have tried to avoid this because the first time I didn't enjoy my vacation.  During the day we were traveling with an 8 month old, FFIL, FBIL, FI and FMIL visiting family for hours on in.  Would drive 3+ hours to visit a person for an hour.  Then came the night and I was in bed with my daughter by 8-9pm because no one would offer to watch her and everyone else would be having a late dinner and watching shows at the resort.

Second time was Disney and although it wasn't as bad because as soon as they said they were going I told FI my mom is also.  However, we had to go at their pace, eat when they wanted, stop when needed, and even had a bad argument about the princess breakfast being too expensive.  When I mean bad, I mean FI and FFIL were arguing none stop.  This was something FI and I wanted to do for our daughter since it was her birthday.  So we ended up paying for everything to avoid more arguments.

Last year we went to Disney and this was a huge disappointment for them.  Every conversation they had with us they would throw in a "since we weren't invited.'

Now this year, although she hasn't asked about the vacations because we already said nothing until after the wedding.  She started talking about a vacation a family member is planning.  She asked if we were planning anything this year.  I'm confused, either she wants to know in order to schedule her time with the other family or she is asking to tag along on our plans. 

I don't know what to do without hurting feelings.  I told them already I refuse to go to the same place as we did the first time and they didn't like that. 

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    [QUOTE]I was talking to FMIL and she made a comment which made me wonder.  We were talking about family vacations.  They have been trying to go on vacation with us and our daughter for a few years.  I on the other hand have tried to avoid this because the first time I didn't enjoy my vacation.  During the day we were traveling with an 8 month old, FFIL, FBIL, FI and FMIL visiting family for hours on in.  Would drive 3+ hours to visit a person for an hour.  Then came the night and I was in bed with my daughter by 8-9pm because no one would offer to watch her and everyone else would be having a late dinner and watching shows at the resort. Second time was Disney and although it wasn't as bad because as soon as they said they were going I told FI my mom is also.  However, we had to go at their pace, eat when they wanted, stop when needed, and even had a bad argument about the princess breakfast being too expensive.  When I mean bad, I mean FI and FFIL were arguing none stop.  This was something FI and I wanted to do for our daughter since it was her birthday.  So we ended up paying for everything to avoid more arguments. Last year we went to Disney and this was a huge disappointment for them.  Every conversation they had with us they would throw in a "since we weren't invited.' Now this year, although she hasn't asked about the vacations because we already said nothing until after the wedding.  She started talking about a vacation a family member is planning.  She asked if we were planning anything this year.  I'm confused, either she wants to know in order to schedule her time with the other family or she is asking to tag along on our plans.  I don't know what to do without hurting feelings.  I told them already I refuse to go to the same place as we did the first time and they didn't like that. 
    Posted by fperez7542[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Can you tell her that maybe this year you can't afford it/schedules are too busy/DD has a recital or something? That might be an easy way to avoid the headache, at least for this year. I'm so sorry, too, that you had such bad experiences!

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  • Ugh.

    I am not a fan of group vacations, be they family or friends, for many of the reasons your post illustrated.

    I might say, "FMIL, oh Cousin Joe is planning a vaction to Mexico?  I had no idea, I've been so busy with wedding planning." Then see what she says.

    My suggestion for future vacations with FMIL et. al, if you want to invite her, is to politley state that you, DH, and your daughter are planning a trip to XYZ, and she is welcomed to come, but make sure she has her own, separate way to get to XYZ and her own, separate place to stay once there.  Then once there if she or anyone else start complaining about doing this or not doing that, you can politley but firmly state that this is what we decided to do today and you are welcomed to join us, but if you don't want to you are free to do whatever else you prefer.

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  • I wouldn't discuss any vacation plans with them.  Period.
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    [QUOTE]This is your FI's family? Let him deal with them. He can tell them you don't want to vacation with the extended family if that is what you two decide.
    Posted by Liatris2010[/QUOTE]

    I forgot to add that key bit. .. have FI deal with his family, but make sure you are both on the same page.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to NWR How to handle this... : Can you tell her that maybe this year you can't afford it/schedules are too busy/DD has a recital or something? That might be an easy way to avoid the headache, at least for this year. I'm so sorry, too, that you had such bad experiences!
    Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

    That's what I thought.  We do want to do a few things with out daughter but I can't plan for a group of people.  FI knows his mom can't walk much and can't walk fast so I was so surprised that he was ok with the Disney trip.
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    [QUOTE]Ugh. I am not a fan of group vacations, be they family or friends, for many of the reasons your post illustrated. I might say, "FMIL, oh Cousin Joe is planning a vaction to Mexico?  I had no idea, I've been so busy with wedding planning." Then see what she says. My suggestion for future vacations with FMIL et. al, if you want to invite her, is to politley state that you, DH, and your daughter are planning a trip to XYZ, and she is welcomed to come, but make sure she has her own, separate way to get to XYZ and her own, separate place to stay once there.  Then once there if she or anyone else start complaining about doing this or not doing that, you can politley but firmly state that this is what we decided to do today and you are welcomed to join us, but if you don't want to you are free to do whatever else you prefer.
    Posted by cmsciulli[/QUOTE]

     
    I figured this out on the first vacation, probably about day 5 I started saying "I'm staying in the resort if you guys have errands to run I'll be here when you get back" that just brought a bunch of crankiness out. I also started telling FI if I'm going to the room early so are you, its not fair that we pay for all this and we can't have a dinner/breakfast alone with our child.
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    [QUOTE]I wouldn't discuss any vacation plans with them.  Period.
    Posted by PrincessJas[/QUOTE]

    Funny thing I wasn't talking to her about vacations.  It was a how are you feeling conversation that turned into "so what your plans this year since you are the ones that plans everything"
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    [QUOTE]This is your FI's family? Let him deal with them. He can tell them you don't want to vacation with the extended family if that is what you two decide.
    Posted by Liatris2010[/QUOTE]

    Yes, his family.  He knows I wasn't happy the first time.  I'm ok with visiting family just not for 10 days straight without the option to have a moment alone to relax.  He also knew about Disney because the second time he didn't even tell them until everything was bought.
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  • edited March 2013
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NWR How to handle this... : Funny thing I wasn't talking to her about vacations.  It was a how are you feeling conversation that turned into "so what your plans this year since you are the ones that plans everything"
    Posted by fperez7542[/QUOTE]

    "Well, I'm planning on getting married right now, and that's about it!"

    She doesn't want to go on the honeymoon with you, does she? AAAAAAAH!

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NWR How to handle this... : "Well, I'm planning on getting married right now, and that's about it!" She doesn't want to go on the honeymoon with you, does she? AAAAAAAH!
    Posted by cmsciulli[/QUOTE]

    ha! I sure hope not, but they did show "concern" or was it attitude on why we were using out Hilton Points for it because we received so many we should all go away using them.  That day they came to visit FI showed them the book and they were looking for vacation spots.  We are going to Hawaii and they also find this very far.
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  • CALEOCALEO member
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    They want you to use YOUR points to take them on vacation? 

    No.
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  • I am actually going on a vacation with my inlaws next week. I think there is a huge difference between "us" vacation- just my H and myself - and a vacation with our families - parents and siblings. 

    Honestly, next time they ask I'd just set down some boundaries. Yes, you might go on vacation with them now and then, but not every year, and not every trip you take. Sometimes you just need to take trips as a family. 
  • We vacation fairly regularly at Disney with my family. I've found the best thing for us, is to lay out some clear days where FI and I are going to be on our own. Its easier at Disney since you need to make dinner reservations in advance. Whenever my dad would start pushing to plan our meals I would say we can plan for Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, but Wednesday/Friday we're gonna do our own thing, there's some other places we want to try.

    But I definitely agree with having vacations alone too, we had our first vacation with just FI and I this year and it was such a relief to not coordinate with anyone.

     

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  • We went to Vegas with FI's mother and her (now ex) boyfriend a few years ago. It was the worst vacation ever. I didn't know how crazy FMIL could be, and we got caught in their fights constantly and while we did the things they wanted at the beginning of the week, we didn't get to do the things I wanted that were planned for the last day...and there was always an argument about the restaurants.  I can't imagine ever going with her again....just nightmare.

    I wouldn't discuss it with her until after it's booked. If ever.
  • hoffsehoffse member
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    I would simply plan vacations and not discuss it with them, either before you leave or after you get back - just keep answers vague if they press you for it.

    I disagree that sometimes you have to just suck it up and take extended family vacations.  FILs have invited me on vacation with them a couple times, and I have always declined.  They may not be thrilled about it, but no f'ing way am I going to be stuck in a cabin for a week with no cable and only stilted conversation.  They have now stopped asking and have pretty much figured out that FI and I will be doing our own thing for vacation.

    Likewise, my parents have invited FI on trips before, and he has also always declined.  They wren't offended and understand we prefer to do our own trips.  This might seem selfish, but vacation time for us is really precious - we really don't get more than a week each year - and that's not going to be spent on a group trip.

    I find it especially distasteful that they want you to pay for everything.  Surely you realize this isn't them wanting to spend time with you - it's them wanting a free trip right?  Have your FI handle his parents.  If they get mad, they get mad.  Eventually they will get the hint that vacation time and vacation points are for your pleasure and not theirs.
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  • I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I get the whole family vacation because of wanting to spend time with our daughter but I can't be taking vacations where I don't enjoy myself. Thank God FI gets me. My parents never bothered to invite us or invite themselves. That one time my mom went was to keep me from snapping. I'll avoid all vacation talks. Thank you. Also sorry for the format. I'm using my phone.
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