I am getting married in November and have quite of large wedding party of 14 Bridesmaids, Ushers and 2 Maids of Honor and Best men. I also have 5 flower girls. Since I am 39, most of my Bridesmaid friends have daughters, so they will be flower girls. We had asked my fiance's brother's little girl, (she will be 3 by the time the wedding comes) FIRST to be one of our flower girls. Now that the wedding is coming, I was in my dress shop and the salewoman informed me that my Bridesmaid's dresses came in mini for flower girls. I immediately fell in love and got in otuch with all 5 moms of the flowers girls...my sister in law being one of them.
The dress itself is an Alfred Angelo A-line Satin Claret gown, spaghetti straps and an invory shawl to be appprpiate for church. My sister-in-laws response to my e-mail (before even seeing the dress) was the following, "I think having Annie match the bridal party and not the bride is not a good idea. In every wedding party through the centuries flower girls match the bride"
I was very upset by this...out of 14 woman and 4 mothers, NONE of them had an issue. They were only too happy to have this honor. My sister-in-law felt the dress was "inappropiate" and it should look more little girl like. After a few conversations, she went on to say, "If Annie meant so much to you – being your niece – you shouldn’t care if walks down your aisle in a paper bag – and that’s how I feel- that you’re putting a dress before your niece.”
My fiance had suffered a heart attack one year prior, his Dad was dianosed with stage 4 cancer, and we both were laid-off from our jobs...our stress level was through the roof, so I ha da hard time with this whole scenario. In the 17 weddding parties i've been in, the Bride & Groom chose the attire...becaise..well...it was their wedding. This dress I picked was simple and elegant (please see below) and furthermore cost a mere $85.00.
My sister-in-law (knowing full well all of our major stresses) went onto say to my faince', "Horatio, being that she is your niece you would rather not see her in it, but you would rather her wear the dress…that she is your blood – so you’re telling me that you would rather see Annie in your wedding party in that dress or not be in it – I wanna hear that from you – I wanna hear it Horatio – I wanna hear the words.”
Needless to say my fiance was pushed to the wall....and now his own blodd brother will not speak to him. I just don't know what to do...this is just awful. Help!!!
At this point, I think it may be better to just let your fiance handle it. I try really hard not to get involved in potentially argumentative situations with my fiance's family because his mother is very stubborn and has strong opinions (she sounds a lot like your future sister in law, in fact).
I would ask your fiance what he thinks you should do. Since it is his niece, I would let him make the decision.
Is is possible to compromise and have her wear a white little girl dress and a sash the color of the rest of the girl's dresses? 3 years old might be a little too young to wear such a narrow dress--it might look strange. Whenever I picture a flower girl I picture her in a poofy dress--especially since she is only 3 years old.
Spaghetti straps aren't appropriate for a 3-year-old. I don't think they're appropriate for anyone under about 15. If the mom doesn't like the spaghetti straps, then it's her decision. I also think a floor-length dress for a 3 year old is a really bad idea.
I don't agree about "matching the bride" though. I think if you could find a claret dress cut for a little girl, that would be fine. Or maybe a white/ivory dress with a claret sash or claret details? The color is you choice. But the style does have to be approved by the girl's parents.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_attire-accessories_sister-in-law-causing-major-upset-over-flower-girl-dress?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:15Discussion:515b3f16-e626-4a66-82aa-8e2d49149b8cPost:5dc949a8-f14f-4c58-98f4-c178a71edcb5">Re: SISTER-IN-LAW causing MAJOR upset over flower girl dress</a>: [QUOTE]Spaghetti straps aren't appropriate for a 3-year-old. I don't think they're appropriate for anyone under about 15. If the mom doesn't like the spaghetti straps, then it's her decision. I also think a floor-length dress for a 3 year old is a really bad idea. I don't agree about "matching the bride" though. I think if you could find a claret dress cut for a little girl, that would be fine. Or maybe a white/ivory dress with a claret sash or claret details? The color is you choice. But <strong><font color="#0000ff">the style does have to be approved by the girl's parents.</font></strong> Posted by Avion22[/QUOTE]
Yup. Mom needs to be on-board with the style of dress for her 3 year old.
That dress is too old for a 3 yr old. I don't agree that she has to be in white, but that dress is for older girls.
I actually don't like flower girls in little white dresses. They look like little brides, and I am not a fan. But that is just a personal preference.
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Agreed that the flowergirl's mom gets a say in the dress. My only flowergirl was 9, not 3, but I did tell her mom that any dress they chose together would be fine, in either white, blue, or some combination thereof. She ended up wearing white and was able to use the dress for a kids' fashion show she was in before the wedding. She didn't match my dress, though DB did have a small version of it.
I don't think flowergirls have to wear a certain color, but yes, that particular dress is inappropriate for a toddler.
I think that you set yourself up for drama by having such a large wedding party. It's your day and you can do whatever you want, but a party that big could only lead to some kid of drama somewhere in the process.
I agree with everything people above have said. Spaghetti straps for a 3 year old are inappropriate and the girl's mother has full veto power if she feels that way. Also, a "mere $85" is rather expensive for a dress for a 3 year old. Especially one she will grow out of quickly, since she is 3. I would give your FG's parents more flexibility on this, especially since it sound like they will be paying for BM dresses AND FG dresses.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_attire-accessories_sister-in-law-causing-major-upset-over-flower-girl-dress?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:15Discussion:515b3f16-e626-4a66-82aa-8e2d49149b8cPost:5dc949a8-f14f-4c58-98f4-c178a71edcb5">Re: SISTER-IN-LAW causing MAJOR upset over flower girl dress</a>: [QUOTE]<strong>Spaghetti straps aren't appropriate for a 3-year-old. I don't think they're appropriate for anyone under about 15.</strong> If the mom doesn't like the spaghetti straps, then it's her decision. I also think a floor-length dress for a 3 year old is a really bad idea. I don't agree about "matching the bride" though. I think if you could find a claret dress cut for a little girl, that would be fine. Or maybe a white/ivory dress with a claret sash or claret details? The color is you choice. <strong>But the style does have to be approved by the girl's parents.</strong> Posted by Avion22[/QUOTE]
My flower girl was my MOH's (and BFF's) daughter. She and I chose the dress together because it was my wedding but her daughter, so I wanted her to have a say in it. We ended up with a very cute ivory dress with tulle and a blue sash to match the wedding party. She looked adorable, and perfect for her age. And it didn't have spaghetti straps. She's 3. Not 30.
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A "mere $85". Really? What about shoes/tights/hair accessories/anything else needed for this little girl to be in your wedding. I would not spend $85 on a dress my 3 year old would wear once- not to mention, if in my own wedding I wanted a child to wear something that cost that much, I'D be the one offering to pay for it ("it" being a mother-approved dress, of course).
Sorry... but if the mom is paying, she gets the say. A "mere" $85 may be alot to some people.
My 3 year old was a flower girl this past summer, the bride said "whatever you think" and gave me the colors. I bought her dress off of eBay for $17 and no one could ever tell... we got many compliments on it.
For her father and I's wedding she is also wearing a dress from online, that I paid $25 for. I'm sorry but $85 is ALOT of money to spend on a dress for a 3 year old!!!
ETA: her dress for the wedding this summer was white with a purple sash to match the bridesmaids, and the one for our wedding is all white.
If all the dresses are 85 dollars no matter the size. Order the biggest size you can get for that price and get a pattern and sew probably two girls dress out of one adult size dress. or cut the length off the existing dress and make a wider strap/short sleeves out of it. I would worry about the girl tripping more than I would the straps. Also she is not going to be able to manage a shawl. I would just make her sleeves.
I have decided to compromise, and gave her a choice of 7 other Alfred Angelo dresses, all in the same shade so the dye lot is the same...they are all satin, some have bolero jackets, some have sashes. I hope this works. But..my FH is very hurt and very upset because he feels (as well as the other 4 mothers involved) that there is nothing wrong with the dress I picked. In fact, our youngest flower girl is 2 1/2 and her Mom loves it. As long as it's by the same manufacturer, I am ok. Ty for responding.
Thank you for your response...and well, if we get alienated..so be it. Her opinion of me and my FH is inconsequential. I did however choose 7 other dresses from the same manufacturere for her to choose. Hopefully this will satisfy her demands.
I understands your opinion, but it's not the women causing the problem. All 14 of them, and all 4 mother of the flower girls ordered their dresses...no issues. I told them get whatever shoe, do your hair however...I even picked up all 14 gowns for them. I am used to handling big groups as I am a band condutor.
Thank you ladies, for all your opinions...and it's funny because I read not that a single one of you live in New York. $85 dollars for us is cheap...most Bridemaid's dresses I have bought have been upwards of $300. As far as spaghetti straps, I do like the idea of making them wider...but I do not at all agree with any of you who said a floor length gown or shawl is unmanagable. If you have the right seamstress...and a good seamstress, floor length is not an issue.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_attire-accessories_sister-in-law-causing-major-upset-over-flower-girl-dress?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:15Discussion:515b3f16-e626-4a66-82aa-8e2d49149b8cPost:4729ab86-62de-4aa1-9e3b-f19ef5de7250">Re: SISTER-IN-LAW causing MAJOR upset over flower girl dress</a>: [QUOTE]Thank you ladies, for all your opinions...and it's funny because I read not that a single one of you live in New York. $85 dollars for us is cheap...most Bridemaid's dresses I have bought have been upwards of $300. As far as spaghetti straps, I do like the idea of making them wider...but I do not at all agree with any of you who said a floor length gown or shawl is unmanagable. If you have the right seamstress...and a good seamstress, floor length is not an issue. Posted by HortenseEspinoza[/QUOTE]<div> </div><div>There is a difference between a grown woman paying $85 for a dress, and spending that kind of money on a dress for a 3-year-old. And it doesn't matter if the mother of the 2 1/2 year-old thinks the dress is okay. The 3-year-olds mom DOES NOT, and it's her child, so she makes the call. Hopefully one of the 7 other styles will work :-)
I understand your fustration but, I can see where this mom is coming from. I don't have any children of my own, but I do know that if an outfit seemed too "womanly" for my child I wouldn't want them to wear it. Just like I don't think little girls should wear make up or bikini's. It's just weird. Ultimately, it's the parents' choice whether or not they think an outfit is inapproproate for their child. Personally, I think that dress is way too grown up for a 3 year old.
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Re: SISTER-IN-LAW causing MAJOR upset over flower girl dress
[QUOTE]Spaghetti straps aren't appropriate for a 3-year-old. I don't think they're appropriate for anyone under about 15. If the mom doesn't like the spaghetti straps, then it's her decision. I also think a floor-length dress for a 3 year old is a really bad idea. I don't agree about "matching the bride" though. I think if you could find a claret dress cut for a little girl, that would be fine. Or maybe a white/ivory dress with a claret sash or claret details? The color is you choice. But <strong><font color="#0000ff">the style does have to be approved by the girl's parents.</font></strong>
Posted by Avion22[/QUOTE]
Yup. Mom needs to be on-board with the style of dress for her 3 year old.
Websites/blogs where our wedding has been featured:
http://www.dapperq.com/2013/11/a-very-dapper-wedding/
http://www.onabicyclebuiltfortwo.com/2013/10/wedding-christina-g.html
http://4realequalityweddings.com/2014/05/16/g-christina/
I think that you set yourself up for drama by having such a large wedding party. It's your day and you can do whatever you want, but a party that big could only lead to some kid of drama somewhere in the process.
[QUOTE]<strong>Spaghetti straps aren't appropriate for a 3-year-old. I don't think they're appropriate for anyone under about 15.</strong> If the mom doesn't like the spaghetti straps, then it's her decision. I also think a floor-length dress for a 3 year old is a really bad idea. I don't agree about "matching the bride" though. I think if you could find a claret dress cut for a little girl, that would be fine. Or maybe a white/ivory dress with a claret sash or claret details? The color is you choice. <strong>But the style does have to be approved by the girl's parents.</strong>
Posted by Avion22[/QUOTE]
My flower girl was my MOH's (and BFF's) daughter. She and I chose the dress together because it was my wedding but her daughter, so I wanted her to have a say in it. We ended up with a very cute ivory dress with tulle and a blue sash to match the wedding party. She looked adorable, and perfect for her age. And it didn't have spaghetti straps. She's 3. Not 30.
[QUOTE]Thank you ladies, for all your opinions...and it's funny because I read not that a single one of you live in New York. $85 dollars for us is cheap...most Bridemaid's dresses I have bought have been upwards of $300. As far as spaghetti straps, I do like the idea of making them wider...but I do not at all agree with any of you who said a floor length gown or shawl is unmanagable. If you have the right seamstress...and a good seamstress, floor length is not an issue.
Posted by HortenseEspinoza[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>There is a difference between a grown woman paying $85 for a dress, and spending that kind of money on a dress for a 3-year-old. And it doesn't matter if the mother of the 2 1/2 year-old thinks the dress is okay. The 3-year-olds mom DOES NOT, and it's her child, so she makes the call. Hopefully one of the 7 other styles will work :-)
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andplusalso, a 3 year old will outgrow the dress in months!