Dinner and a question

MarriedInAFever

What is for dinner? What do you think about the planned burning of the Koran scheduled for Sept. 11?

zippityb

Not sure, and I'm more a fan of spontaneous demonstrations of hatred.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

Dinner will be interesting.  My cupboards are exceptionally bare and I'm not going shopping.

I'm a Christian and I'm ashamed of those people.

kpwedkk

Left over eggplant Parmesan... As for the demo, I hope someone or a group lets them know that reality really does hurt, for misunderstanding, or the lack to understand!  I'm against the demo.

marriedfilingjointly

I think it's leftovers night at the MFJ household tonight. 

I think it's stupid.  Also, I want to show up and say "Hey guys, the Qu'ran and the Bible share a lot of common books and stories, so technically, you're burning a Bible!  Take that, dumbshits!"

But seriously, it's effed up that they are putting our soldiers in more danger than they already face.  Dickmove. 

missy68

Burning the Quran is a bad idea, and is an act done by people who are grouping an entire religious group in with a group of extremists. They've been urged not to do so by the frigging Pentagon, but oh no, Mr. preacher man thinks he's right.

Dinner? Who knows. Hot dog probably.

Becky&Chris

Honey teriyaki tilapia with veggies and brown rice.

And I'm horrified on multiple levels. There are ways to protest terrorism, that isn't one of them.

LesPaul

Dinner will probably be some leftover salmon that needs to get eaten. 

And I think burning the Koran is just as offensive as burning the Bible, or the American or Canadian flag. 

Would they call it 'free speech' if a Muslim publicly burned the Bible?  I think not.

rhodesign

Pasta primavera and garlic bread. Those frackin' idiots...words cannot describe how much they piss me off

marriedfilingjointly

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[QUOTE]I will probably have a bowl of cheerios for dinner. This is the first time I have heard about this burning of the Koran (I have had no internet and no TV for a few days so excuse my ignorance). Who is burning the Koran, please give me a quick update.
Posted by jelique7[/QUOTE]

Some crazy snake church. 

(it's not really a snake church.  But I call all of those churches with ignorant radicals snake churches)

rhodesign

oh and Jelique--this crazy "pastor" in Florida wants to stage an 'international burn the koran day to protest Muslim extremists. Ironic, huh?

MarriedInAFever

Quick brief, J: Evangelical minister in Florida is planning a book burning of the Koran, the Muslim holy book and encourages others to join him. The date is not only significant of the 9/11 attacks, but also the end of Ramadan.

I think the majority of us can disagree with the action. But would you consider him exercising his freedom of speech and believe he should be allowed this freedom?

MeaghanandMichael

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[QUOTE]I think it's leftovers night at the MFJ household tonight.  <strong>I think it's stupid.  Also, I want to show up and say "Hey guys, the Qu'ran and the Bible share a lot of common books and stories, so technically, you're burning a Bible!  Take that, dumbshits!" But seriously, it's effed up that they are putting our soldiers in more danger than they already face.  Dickmove. 
</strong>Posted by marriedfilingjointly[/QUOTE]

This.
Dinner? I can't even begin to think about it. I am starving though. I may go down to the kitchen at work and pick around.

aprovencher21

People burning the Quran have the legal right to do so........but I think they are a bunch of asshole fruitcakes.  I don't like the idea of burning any books, let alone books someone considers holy or religious.

LesPaul

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[QUOTE]Quick brief, J: Evangelical minister in Florida is planning a book burning of the Koran, the Muslim holy book and encourages others to join him. The date is not only significant of the 9/11 attacks, but also the end of Ramadan. I think the majority of us can disagree with the action. <strong>But would you consider him exercising his freedom of speech and believe he should be allowed this freedom?
</strong>Posted by MarriedInAFever[/QUOTE]

I do agree that he might have the right, technically, under the guise of free speech.  But just because he *can* do it doesn't mean he should.  It's not going to do any good in the long run for anybody.

rhodesign

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[QUOTE]Quick brief, J: Evangelical minister in Florida is planning a book burning of the Koran, the Muslim holy book and encourages others to join him. The date is not only significant of the 9/11 attacks, but also the end of Ramadan. I think the majority of us can disagree with the action. But would you consider him exercising his freedom of speech and believe he should be allowed this freedom?
Posted by MarriedInAFever[/QUOTE]

I get so tired of people saying/doing things  because of 'free speech' and thinking it makes them safe. Sure, you have every right to do such a thing under the law, but it doesn't make you beyond reproach for your actions. Just as you have the right to burn a holy book, the rest of us have the right to call you out on your craziness.

So to answer your question--yes he has a right to do it, but I don't support the action

npasquale16

Dinner: Picking up Chinese, since FI is out for the night and he hates it, so I only get it when he's not here. 

Question:  I'm only for it if the pastor "accidentally" falls into the pit of fire and runs around in flames, a la any horror movie. 

reddy123

This convo is reminding me of neo-Nazi groups (which also preach freedom of speech all the time, and have it, to an extent).  I get heated when neo-nazi groups argue for freedoms because using the term 'nazi', should, imho, omit you from any freedoms considering that group was an enemy of the US and committed a lot of crimes.

Burning the Koran isn't a crime per say, and I'm into freedom of speech (like WAY into it), but I also believe in freedom of religion, and how truly free can a citizen feel if these groups are allowed to galavant around bullying people?

MarriedInAFever

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[QUOTE]Ironically, the "joke" is sort of on the  ones who burn the American flag. That is the only proper way to dispose of one that is damaged. I think the only way he could get it to be free speech is to get a permit for an assembly and a bonfire, and I think he's at least been denied the bonfire part.
Posted by missy68[/QUOTE]

I always thought this was ironic too.

MarriedInAFever

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[QUOTE]This convo is reminding me of neo-Nazi groups (which also preach freedom of speech all the time, and have it, to an extent).  I get heated when neo-nazi groups argue for freedoms because using the term 'nazi', should, imho, omit you from any freedoms considering that group was an enemy of the US and committed a lot of crimes. Burning the Koran isn't a crime per say, and I'm into freedom of speech (like WAY into it), but I also believe in freedom of religion, and <strong>how truly free can a citizen feel if these groups are allowed to galavant around bullying people?</strong>
Posted by reddy123[/QUOTE]

What a chin-stroking sentiment. It is a very, very hostile act. And I agree with you because it makes us (as in U.S. citizens) appear to be intolerant and hostile people. And truly, the majority is not. For example, most people are probably familiar with the Westboro Baptist Church, the group that protests EVERYTHING including military funerals. They get a lot of media attention, but it's actually just one family of crazies.

MeaghanandMichael

Although, at the end of the day, I would rather live in a place where this is allowed and we can discuss it and try to educate.

reddy123

I was totally going to bring up that church as another example, but Nazis seemed easier since they are attacking a religion (protected by constitution), whereas that hateful church is attacking sexuality. Different, but pretty much the same kind of hate masked and protected by"freedom of speech".

Labrnr

What is the correct spelling?  Koran, Quran, or Qu'ran?

number55

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[QUOTE] I'm a Christian and I'm ashamed of those people.
Posted by AllAboutTheBenjamin[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>This times a million. I haven't read all of the other posts in this thread. When I saw this I just hit quote. FI and I were watching a news blurb about it and I said how happy I am that there are always crazies doing stupid shiite like that to give Christians a bad name....WE AREN'T ALL NUTS!

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TurtlesAllTheWayDown

I'm pretty sure they've never read the Quran, as it talks about Mary, mother of Jesus, more than the Bible does. Dipwads.

Dinner = protein shake. I'm on a superfast this week. Sort of.

MarriedInAFever

Another thought, do you think this could potentially cause more hostility in the Middle East where troops are stationed? I definitely think it could and putting our troops further in harm's way is super shitty.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]What is the correct spelling?  Koran, Quran, or Qu'ran?
Posted by Labrnr[/QUOTE]

They're both fine, but Qu'ran/Quran is a more recent spelling, which some people think is "more correct" pronunciation-wise. Like Chinese, it's hard to write a direct translation into English since the letters in Arabic don't really match up.

stellabbella129

When I think about the crazy following that Danish political cartoon a few years ago, I wonder how you couldn't consider burning the Koran to be an action that could seriously threaten the safety of our troops.

I feel like I should just walk up to him saying "God spoke to me and told me I should do this" and then twist the fuckk out of his nipples.