Vaccines

Simply Fated

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[QUOTE]Did you guys see the ad for Pregnant in Heels when the chick goes "Oh please, we dont believe in vaccines. When is the last time someone got polio??"
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]
People are so dumb.

There have been something like 150 cases of Polio in the US, not counting the cases imported from other countries.
There was an outbreak in the Amish community about ten years ago because, ya know, they aren't vaccinated.
The thing people don't understand is, the disease hasn't vanished into thin air. It's still out there and if you don't get vaccinated, you could get it.

Simply Fated

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[QUOTE]Have you heard the new "cure" for autism? It's basically a bleach serum that you feed your kid. The kids who have shown less autistic tendencies after prolonged "treatment" are actually having large portions of their brain destroyed. So sad.
Posted by katiewhompus[/QUOTE]
I am in shock right now. I googled this and it's seriously straight up bleach. I thought it was just a term they were using, like, when I say "I'm dead serious." I'm not actually dead. But they're actually using bleach. WTF?
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-drezner/autism-cure_b_1588498.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-drezner/autism-cure_b_1588498.html</a>

kcscejal

http://dexterseason3.org/penn-tellers-bullshit-vaccinations/

This video basically describes how I feel about vaccinations.  I will for sure be vaccinating my kids, and I judge parents who don't (aside from allergies, obviously).

Blueyed228

I wonder who came up with that idea.

"Oh, lets try bleach!"

ootmother2

World Health Organization announced the last case of smallpox in 1976.

Ten years later, it came back in some remote African nation.  People stopped  vaccination.

I really would flame anyone not vaccinating their children, Calypso in particular.  She believes that if everyone else is vaccinated, she won't have to.

rhodesign

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[QUOTE]I wonder who came up with that idea. "Oh, lets try bleach!"
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

Bleach kills everything, even Autism. duh!

There are a few (and I mean maybe 2) vaccs I might delay, but not for fear of autism or any such rubbish. I'm a minimal interventionalist by nature, so for me it's about doing the least necessary. But believe you me, this kiddo will get all his shots.

My hunch-theory (not rooted in real science) is that kids like JMs kid and others who claim their child suffered setbacks and issues after vaccines, etc. are probably sensitive to whatever is in the vaccine and hence have problems that may mimic austic-like behavior. They may or may not be permanent depending on what's done about it. I think it's entirely possible that, just like allergies, some people react badly to them. That does NOT mean that they all cause autism. If that were true, we'd all be autistic, yes?

I'd also like to know what these kids were like growing up before those nefarious shots--autistic behaviors start early and we're getting better and noting the signs. I always wonder if these parents just never picked up on the problems these kids already maybe had. Just a thought...

cheeseandrice

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vaccines : People are so dumb. There have been something like 150 cases of Polio in the US, not counting the cases imported from other countries. There was an outbreak in the Amish community about ten years ago because, ya know, they aren't vaccinated. The thing people don't understand is, the disease hasn't vanished into thin air. It's still out there and if you don't get vaccinated, you could get it.
Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

<div>Or the hundreds (thousands?) of cases of whooping cough that are happening around the country. WI in particular has seen a huge increase in cases... because people think they know better than medical professionals. That shi.it was basically extinct. vaccinations exist for a reason.</div>

Mrs.B6302007

Wisc!  I haven't seen you in awhile (probably since before the baby was born) so I just wanted to say how cute Lil' Wisc is!!  I'm sorry he's sick and I hope he gets well SOON!


 BTW, Baby Bee has had all vax.

cheeseandrice

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vaccines : I am in shock right now. I googled this and it's seriously straight up bleach. I thought it was just a term they were using, like, when I say "I'm dead serious." I'm not actually dead. But they're actually using bleach. WTF? <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-drezner/autism-cure_b_1588498.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-drezner/autism-cure_b_1588498.html</a>
Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

<div>This makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. How is this not child abuse? BLEACH ENEMAS?! multiple times in a week?!</div>

achiduck

The bleach autism "cure" enrages me to a whole new level. Any parent that is ok with feeding their kid bleach has a special place in hell reserved for them.

Not vaccinating your children because "everyone else will" is not a valid reason. It's just pure lazyness in my mind. I 100% agree with whoever said they shouldn't get insurance coverage if their child gets whatever disease could have been prevented by getting the vaccine (allergy reasons excluded of course). When FI and I have babies they will be vaccinated. 

Bubbalub

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[QUOTE]<strong>This is one of those conversations that I have to avoid completely on TB. Because there's no convincing stupid that they're wrong.</strong> Vaccinate your kid. Pertussis can be deadly, ffs. There is no reason NOT to vaccinate (except rare case of allergy.)
Posted by Steph+J[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Agreed.</div><div>
</div><div>I just found out one of my former coworkers refused to vaccinate his 3 kids because of the autism fear. That just dropped my opinion of him and his idiot wife even farther. One of the reasons pertussis has made such a comeback is because of people not vaccinating against it in the first place.</div><div>

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Bec20

Any future kids of mine will definitely be getting vaccinated.  It seems stupid not to (barring allgeries, of course), especially considering SO is a paramedic.  I'm not sure if I'd do the chicken pox one, but getting them for illnesses that pose obvious risks if you aren't immune seems like a no-brainer.

Beads921

Another in the "my kids WILL be vaccinated" camp. Although I'm not getting the HPV vaccine for myself...

My sister was allergic to most of her infant vaccines, but was all caught up by the time she was about 12. Some people will be allergic forever, but luckily, she grew out of it/they came up with a new vaccine (I don't remember which it was, and I feel like it was a combination of both). 

allisong23

I will be getting K vaxed against HPV, not only to protect him but any women he will be wih in the future. Men can get penile and oral cancer from HPV. I hope he will have sex responsibly, but I am not naive enough to bhink he will get married as a virgin and marry a virgin. While that would not be a bad thing, the odds are against it. All it takes is one time.

junieolive

Wisc I am sorry to hear about your son!  whooping cough has been making a huge comeback.  It's unfortunate because people no longer realize how dangerous childhood diseases can actually be.  The whooping caough resurgence has been caused not only by unvaccinated children, but I have just learned recently that adults need to get a booster shot for pertussis because immunity wanes after many years.  In adults pertussis is very rarely dangerous and often not noticed but can be passed on to small unvaccinated infants. ( I am NOT saying you gave it to him! I swear!)   I think that pediatricians should be informing parents to get vaccinated also and ask that close family members also get vaccinted.   I am guilty of not getting my booster recently and have it in my calendar once I am done with teaching at the end of the week.  I hope he feels better!

RWS2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vaccines : I am in shock right now. I googled this and it's seriously straight up bleach. I thought it was just a term they were using, like, when I say "I'm dead serious." I'm not actually dead. But they're actually using bleach. WTF? <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-drezner/autism-cure_b_1588498.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-drezner/autism-cure_b_1588498.html</a>
Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

<div>This horrifies me!  Who thought this was a good idea and who are the people that say, oh sure, I'll try anything?!</div><div>
</div><div>As for vaccinations, my daughter had all her necessary shots for school and we usually do the flu shot each year.  If we plan to travel out of the country, I always check with the doctor about any vaccinations we may need.  </div><div>
</div><div>I get so tired of this debate (pertaining to the relationship of vaccinations to autism) because I just want to tattoo "Correlation does not equal causation.  The End." on my forearm, flash that and be done.  </div><div>
</div><div>As many posters have said before me, it is fine for people who are allergic, have immune issues, or other medical reasons for not getting shots to avoid them.  Maybe it is because I can be a heartless atheist biiitch, but I really dislike the religious cop out.  Tomorrow, I want to start a religion that forbids driving with your eyes open and demand the world accommodate me and my followers on the grounds of religious freedom.</div>

Simply Fated

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vaccines : This makes me absolutely sick to my stomach.<strong> How is this not child abuse?</strong> BLEACH ENEMAS?! multiple times in a week?!
Posted by Steph+J[/QUOTE]
Because it's a CURE! Duh!

On any other planet this would be abuse, but call it a "cure" and it's okay. This planet is bizarre.

sweetredhead

In Response to Re:Vaccines:[QUOTE]My step daughter and her husband have researched in depth every vaccine they give grandaughter. They give her delayed shots, and certain shots that dont contain certain things. Not sure how it works, but they want her vaccinated but with the least chemicals possible. We have other family members who have forged documents to get their children in school. H and I see red everytime its mentioned. But, what can you do really? Sorry the little one is feeling bad Wisc. Keep us updated. Posted by kd.joseph[/QUOTE]

You can turn them into the school!! Sorry but that's a sore spot with me. My sister missed any chance of going to school one year because she was battling cancer and it was discovered a kid's parents lied about vaccines. Their lie could have killed her. The school became completely unsafe for her and she even when feeling healthy enough to be around others, she could not. So clearly I am extremely biased against non vaccination.

mjmchugh86

I will completly vaccinate my hopeful future children. My kids will also not be allowed to play with kids who opt out.

I once thought that I would skip the chicken pox one. Then I got shingles and that went out the window.

Simply Fated

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re:Vaccines: You can turn them into the school!! Sorry but that's a sore spot with me. My sister missed any chance of going to school one year because she was battling cancer and it was discovered a kid's parents lied about vaccines. Their lie could have killed her. The school became completely unsafe for her and she even when feeling healthy enough to be around others, she could not. So clearly I am extremely biased against non vaccination.
Posted by sweetredhead[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you said something because I thought I might be the only one. When you don't vaccinate your child, you put all the other children and their families in danger of potentially very harmful diseases.

jazzerinashorty

I am a biochemist and pharmacist.  There is no valid reason for not vaccinating, since vaccinations cause NO HARM (except of course for allergies as already mentioned).  People are afraid of the presevatives used in the vaccines, because they have long, scary chemical names, and chemicals are scary.  In the trace amount used in the vaccines, they are completely harmless and necessary to ensure safety.  It's selfish, you aren't just endangering the child not receiving the vaccine, but all vulnerable populations (other kids, pregnant women, elderly, immune-compromised, etc.). 

Personally, I think the rise in autism is more likely due to increased diagnosis and women having children later in life.  Increased maternal age HAS been linked to increased risk of autism, Down's Syndrome, and lots of other genetically-based disorders.

It just makes me so angry as a scientist to see false infomation thrown around to scare the public.  I'll get off my soapbox now...Have a goodnight everyone!

Simply Fated

@ jazzerinashorty...

Personally, I think the rise in autism is more likely due to increased diagnosis and women having children later in life.
I agree. That makes a lot of logical sense to me.

Increased maternal age HAS been linked to increased risk of autism, Down's Syndrome, and lots of other genetically-based disorders.
That scares me because I'm not ready to have children, yet, but I know I'm getting to that age.

It just makes me so angry as a scientist to see false infomation thrown around to scare the public.
I'm not even a scientist and I'm angry, too, so I can't even imagine how angry you must be lol.

I wonder if people (mothers, specifically) would rather blame vaccines for their kids autism than blame their older age and genetics. I know I'd rather have something else to blame.

Wiscisbliss

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[QUOTE]Wisc I am sorry to hear about your son!  whooping cough has been making a huge comeback.  It's unfortunate because people no longer realize how dangerous childhood diseases can actually be.  The whooping caough resurgence has been caused not only by unvaccinated children, but I have just learned recently that adults need to get a booster shot for pertussis because immunity wanes after many years.  In adults pertussis is very rarely dangerous and often not noticed but can be passed on to small unvaccinated infants. ( <strong>I am NOT saying you gave it to him! I swear!</strong>)   I think that pediatricians should be informing parents to get vaccinated also and ask that close family members also get vaccinted.   I am guilty of not getting my booster recently and have it in my calendar once I am done with teaching at the end of the week.  I hope he feels better!
Posted by junieolive[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Haha.  I'm pretty sure it wasn't us.  Both DH and I got boosters with Pertussis (DTAP) in the last year so we'd be ready :)</div><div>

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Wiscisbliss

Greggers did a good job tonight.  I just got him in bed and he seems to be breathing alright and sleeping soundly.  DH slept in the nursery last night and probably will again tonight.  Hopefully with the medicine and rest (he slept a ton today) he will be feeling better tomorrow.  

acaponi87

Vaccinate your kids. It's silly not to in almost all cases.

Who's had the flu shot? Thoughts?  I contemplate this every year though I've never done it.

I had to get the varicella vaccination (chicken pox) when I got to college because I hadn't had it (chicken pox) yet...though my parents exposed me multiple times as a child. I still get nervous when I'm in schools even though I've been vacinnated.

 I remember when I got meningitis shot I got real sick..but hell 3 days of sick is better than dead from actual meningitis

Starqueg

Definitely doing vaccinations, all the vaccinations.  So many people go through NYC from other countries, who may or may not be vaccinated or carrying something, that I can't imagine not vaccinating my children.  My mother bought into a lot of the autism scare.  My older brother wasn't exactly autistic, but had a similar disorder.  She swears that he declined after a vaccination, so I'm not sure if he had the rest of them or not.  I do know that she refused to give my sister vaccinations because they "cause" autism.  She tends to buy into every "cure" or treatment that comes into fashion.

acaponi87

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[QUOTE]I get a flu shot every year.  In my line of work, I'm a sitting duck, and influenza is a misery.<strong>  Anyone who's actually had it will tell you.  It sucks.</strong>
Posted by 1covejack[/QUOTE]

Does "it" = the shot or the flu?

Starqueg

I can tell you that getting the flu sucks.  There's nothing worse than a fever of 102 and trying to convince your SO that you need to bring your blanket into the luke warm tub because otherwise you'll get cold.  Yeah, I was not at my best that day.

jcg98

I have asthma, so I get a flu shot every year. Wisc hope the LO feels better soon!

Simply Fated

@acaponi87 I try to get the flu shot every year. The first year I got the shot, I got the flu. But normally I'm fine. This year I didn't get the flu shot and I was sick almost the entire winter. The trouble was, I wasn't allowed to get the shot while I had the flu. So I'd wait for the flu to pass, but it never stopped long enough for me to get the shot. It was a hellish holiday season, I'll tell ya that.
The shot hurts for a split second, but, seriously, I'm a wuss. So it probably doesn't hurt anyone else but me. It's sooo worth it. I'm going to get it this fall first chance I get, come hell or high water I do not want to spend another winter like the last one.
I mean, it's not perfect, you can still get the flu even if you get the shot, but I'd rather try something than try nothing.

I vaguely remember the meningitis shot hurting, but again, I'm a wuss so I could be remembering wrong... It was awhile ago and it was mandatory at my school (college).