Lunch and a question!

J&K10910

What's for lunch?

Legalize drugs?  Some?  All?  None?  Why? 

ohwhynot

Yogurt and granola.

So long as alcohol and tobacco are legal, I think all drugs should be legal. 
Why?  Because I can't think of any good reason to ban them that doesn't also apply to alcohol. 

Anysunrise

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[QUOTE]What's for lunch? Legalize drugs?  Some?  All?  None?  Why? 
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

Haven't decided what I'm going to eat yet, probably a sandwich.

Legalize pot. Tax the hell out of it. ??? Profit.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

Knoefla soup, a dinner roll, and some butternut squash bake.

Legalize pot, and tax the shiit out of it!

vegasgroom

I think marajuana should be legal and taxed the hell out of; I'm of the opinion its not any riskier than alcohol from an impairment and danger to others standpoint, its already easily accessible, its not any more health damaging than cigarettes and we could make a lot of money off taxing it while also reducing crime.  Other drugs I think should remain illegal.  For disclosure purposes, I haven't tried marijuana since high school 16 years ago.

Night_Sprite

I watched the documentary the Union.  It was really interesting and made me think pot should probably be lega.  It mentioned something like, "if the government and the sellers both want it illegal, it should probably be legalized or at least reevaluated."

future-mrs

Agree with PP, talk about a solution to some of our debt.

Pizza!  Woot.

laurenclaire1386

Sammy's. Joint down the street. (Pun intended

I'm for legalizing marijuana. I don't know about real hard stuff, like meth or heroine. But definitely marijuana. You can't kill yourself with marijuana. And the likelihood of your doing something dumber than eating 5 lbs of tortialla chips or driving 35 mph on the interstate is slim to none when you're smoking weed. Also, take a look at the addiction rates for prescription narcotics. It's staggering. That's what the FDA and the DEA need to be worried about: crooked doctors and dime store pain management centers. Not weed. It's harmless. Utterly harmless. Some would argue that marijuana is physochologically addicting, but there are zero physical addiction properties in marijuana. No one goes through weed withdrawals.

Nebb

I had pasta and it sucked and I regret it.

*BeachBride0410*

Red trout left over from dinner last night, Weber Grill YUM!

J&K10910

I'm having a chicken quesadilla with my yummy homemade salsa.

I'm for legalizing, regulating, and taxing marijuana.  I'm against any "harder" drugs like meth because I think they are more dangerous, more addictive, etc.  I don't see any reason for alcohol but not marijuana to be legal.  FTR, I've never even tried marijuana because I just don't think it would be my thing, but that's my two cents anyway.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

Plus, marijuana is freaking natural.  It's not like meth where one of the ingredients, for example, is anhydrous amonia, which if breathed in alone would basically shrivel up your lungs on the spot.

DodgersBride

I am having a turkey sandwich and maybe a cup of soup.

I say legalize  marijuana and tax the hell out of it. I see alcohol and marijuana pretty much the same so if alcohol is legal and taxed why not marijuana. I don't think other harder drugs should be seeing as they are more addictive and I believe have worst consequences.

betrothed123

A bottle of coke, because I need the caffeine.

I don't think all drugs should be legalized, because I do think psychedelics and some harder drugs should disappear, but I'm all for legalizing drugs like marijuana and taxing the crap out of them.

npasquale16

I haven't decided on lunch yet.  It's rainy and gross and nothing sounds good.

I say legalize pot and prostitution and tax them.  The harder stuff is incredibly addictive and dangerous to both the user and others, so i would be hard pressed to dins a justification for legalizing it. 

[Deleted User]

I'm having a peanut butter and banana sandwhich and chips. And not happy about it as I just smelled some awesome pasta someone else brought.

I'm not really for the legalization of any drugs, but at the same time I think cigarettes and alcohol should also be illegal (I know, I'm a party pooper!). H and I were talking about it the other day for some reason and he said that while he thinks weed should be legal he doesn't think they would actually be able to regulate it.

Like, we were wondering if there is any way to tell how much is in your system. So if you got pulled over, instead of a breathalizer, how would they know you are over the weed limit? And how do you set a limit because it affects people so differently? And what happens when kids start going to school high, or people are at work after a few joints at lunch? How do you judge the ramifications? We both think that if it's legalized then people will just grow their own to avoid paying heavy taxes, so what happens to those people?

These are the things we talk about during long car rides, ha.

J&K10910

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[QUOTE]H and I were talking about it the other day for some reason and he said that while he thinks weed should be legal he doesn't think they would actually be able to regulate it. Like, we were wondering if there is any way to tell how much is in your system. So if you got pulled over, instead of a breathalizer, how would they know you are over the weed limit? And how do you set a limit because it affects people so differently? And what happens when kids start going to school high, or people are at work after a few joints at lunch? How do you judge the ramifications? We both think that if it's legalized then people will just grow their own to avoid paying heavy taxes, so what happens to those people? These are the things we talk about during long car rides, ha.
Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]

This is a good point. 

vegasgroom

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[QUOTE] H and I were talking about it the other day for some reason and he said that while he thinks weed should be legal he doesn't think they would actually be able to regulate it. Like, we were wondering if there is any way to tell how much is in your system. So if you got pulled over, instead of a breathalizer, how would they know you are over the weed limit? And how do you set a limit because it affects people so differently? And what happens when kids start going to school high, or people are at work after a few joints at lunch? How do you judge the ramifications? We both think that if it's legalized then people will just grow their own to avoid paying heavy taxes, so what happens to those people? These are the things we talk about during long car rides, ha.
Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]

All of your questions apply equally to booze and it's legal.  As far as testing, we'd have to figure out what kind of test can determine an accurate level of intoxication; maybe it can be done with something simple like the percentage of THC in the person's saliva, that would be an easy non-invasive test a field unit could do, and if you refuse the test, just like a DUI test, then you lose your license for refusing.  It would get more difficult if saliva didn't work and it had to be something invasive like a diabetic blood sugar tester that pricks your finger; I can't see expecting people to take a road-side blood test so that might make things tricky.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

Lots of good points Seshat.

Here's something fun that happened in my area this winter - a guy got shitfaced one night (it was during a Vikings/Packers game) and passed out on a friend's couch.  The next morning, he was mostly hung over, and got into his truck to drive to work.

Well, it was blizzarding bad.  Visibility in many areas was zero.  He ended up smashing into a parked police cruiser that had parked in the MIDDLE of the STREET, the cop was outside helping some people who were stuck in a ditch. 

The cop gave the guy a breathalizer and because he still had alcohol in his system, he blew a .02.  Legal limit is .08.  And he got a DUI.

So technically - if you're under the influence even just a little bit - levels don't mean shiit.  Apparently.

Then again, my fiance was given a breath test and blew a .07 and the cop let him off.  (that's the last time he's driven after a drink or two)

future-mrs

Ses-I was pretty much going to chime in but VG stole my post!  Hehe.  Pretty much what you said does apply to alcohol, ya know?  People that go to work drunk...get fired...same with getting high.  And it would be difficult to test as far as driving and whatnot goes...

katiewhompus

Eh, I'm guessing it has more to do with hitting a parked cop car then the blood alcohol level

I think pot should be legalized but the harder drugs need to remain illegal. Part of me hopes that if pot were easier to obtain people would use that for their highs and the use of harder drugs would diminish. I doubt it would work that way.
I also think as long as alcohol and nicotine are legal it's hard to build a case against pot. Alcohol certainly impairs your judgement, and both have very real health affects and are addictive in nature.

The only drug testing I've had for pot (work related, not using) were a pee test and a hair sample. I don't know if there's a test they can take on the road and get instant results though.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

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[QUOTE]Eh, I'm guessing it has more to do with hitting a parked cop car then the blood alcohol level ;)
Posted by katiewhompus[/QUOTE]

Could be - but a sober person could have hit that car in zero visibility.

He was also driving without a license - which he was also in trouble for.  The reason he didn't have a license was because he had gone the week before to renew it after it expired, but he didn't have adequate lenses.  So he went and got the lenses, and had planned on going to renew his license later in the week.  But then he drove in a blizzard after a night of boozing. 

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[QUOTE]Ses-I was pretty much going to chime in but VG stole my post!  Hehe.  Pretty much what you said does apply to alcohol, ya know?  People that go to work drunk...get fired...same with getting high.  And it would be difficult to test as far as driving and whatnot goes...
Posted by future-mrs[/QUOTE]

Oh, I know they do, but like I said, I'm also against alcohol so I'm not singling out pot as being the only bad drug or anything. I was just wondering how you would test for it. I would think it's easier to tell if a person is drunk rather than stoned, but honestly I don't know. That or how you would determine what's over the limit. I'm not very weed or alcohol-savvy.

sucrets4

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[QUOTE]Sammy's. Joint down the street. (Pun intended :) I'm for legalizing marijuana. I don't know about real hard stuff, like meth or heroine. But definitely marijuana. You can't kill yourself with marijuana. And the likelihood of your doing something dumber than eating 5 lbs of tortialla chips or driving 35 mph on the interstate is slim to none when you're smoking weed. Also, take a look at the addiction rates for prescription narcotics. It's staggering. That's what the FDA and the DEA need to be worried about: crooked doctors and dime store pain management centers. Not weed. It's harmless. Utterly harmless. Some would argue that marijuana is physochologically addicting, <strong>but there are zero physical addiction properties in marijuana. No one goes through weed withdrawals.</strong>
Posted by laurenclaire1386[/QUOTE]

I disagree with this only because DH worked with people in Arkansas who exclusively studied marijuana addiction and it will most likely be listed in the next DSM.

betrothed123

I think it's equally as easy to tell if someone is stoned as it is to tell if someone is drunk.  There are a ton of tell-tale signs.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lunch and a question! : Oh, I know they do, but like I said, I'm also against alcohol so I'm not singling out pot as being the only bad drug or anything. I was just wondering how you would test for it. I would think it's easier to tell if a person is drunk rather than stoned, but honestly I don't know. That or how you would determine what's over the limit. I'm not very weed or alcohol-savvy.
Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]


To be honest - I think alcohol is worse than weed.

We have two huge festival style concerts in my area every year - one of them is known for drinking, the other is known for drugs.  At the festival where everyone is drunk, you always hear about fights, people going to the hospital for drinking too much, people getting rowdy and starting shiit on fire.  At the other one where everyone's high, nothing happens.  People are just too chill or something.

That said - I've tried pot only once and even though I don't think it's that bad, I am always hesitant about it because of the simple fact that it's illegal.  And yet I have no problem with drinking my face off.  Contradictory... meh, perhaps.

J&K10910

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lunch and a question! : I disagree with this only because DH worked with people in Arkansas who exclusively studied marijuana addiction and it will most likely be listed in the next DSM.
Posted by sucrets4[/QUOTE]

But are they physical addiction symptoms or psychological?

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AATB--I agree that alcohol is worse. And I hate that it's available in every freaking gas station and store down here. Where H is from, you can only get it at a liquour store that closes at 5.

Night_Sprite

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lunch and a question! : But are they physical addiction symptoms or psychological?
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]
Psychological.

MarriedInAFever

I'm eating a salad. It is from Quiznos.

I do not advocate legalizing marijuana or any other drug. It may not be a "hard" drug, but I've seen it ruin people's lives just the same and I think legalizing it would encourage use.

katiewhompus

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lunch and a question! : Could be - but a sober person could have hit that car in zero visibility. He was also driving without a license - which he was also in trouble for.  The reason he didn't have a license was because he had gone the week before to renew it after it expired, but he didn't have adequate lenses.  So he went and got the lenses, and had planned on going to renew his license later in the week.  But then he drove in a blizzard after a night of boozing. 
Posted by AllAboutTheBenjamin[/QUOTE]

Yeesh. Sounds like a bunch of very minor bad decisions resulting in a ticket :(

I don't think we can really look at withdrawal symptoms as a way to classify something as bad though. People go through withdrawal symptoms from consuming less caffeine, switching diets, lots of stuff.

In my personal experience more bad things have happened because people are drunk verses high. Like a pp said, when my friends were high they tended to hang out and munch. The drunks got into fights, had sex, got in accidents, etc.