I'm not sure if this chick is hardcore or an idiot

katiewhompus

I'm being a bum today and have been watching TLC Baby Stories for the last couple of hours. Lady on there now is having her 4th child and wanted to do a home birth, unassisted by a midwife (aka, her and her husband only). She is not a nurse and read books for research. She went her entire pregnancy without an ultrasound, doctor visit, nothing.

She ends up having twins, both breeched. Everyone turned out fine but holy fvck. Talk about putting yourself in a really bad situation.

Oh, and she named one of the babies Christmas Hope...they were not born in December.

jasmineh7777

Katie- ygpm.

I don't see the logic behind putting your baby at risk when there is no need to. We have medical technology. Why risk it?

ricksang

I really don't understand people who reject science.

anna.oskar

I was just watching that!

  I don't think home births are idiotic, but I think she's an idiot.  At least have a midwife with you!

jasmineh7777

katiewhompus

Excellent picture Jas

But Anna, she couldn't afford one remember!

MarriedInAFever

That makes my uterus ache.

BecW2be

I vote AW dumbass.She should have ditched the TV crew and, hell, the electricity, bed and fresh water too if she wanted to be really hardcore. Go shiit the little fuckers out in a field if you are really interested in going back to nature and DIY birthing. cut the cords with a stick and wipe your ass with some leaves and get back to work.

kd.joseph

Even though I used a midwife they still had a regular Dr. on call in case of emergency. She should have at least had someone there.

That is just scary.

Maybe the babies were conceived on Christmas?

PetraStonegirl

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[QUOTE]I'm being a bum today and have been watching TLC Baby Stories for the last couple of hours. Lady on there now is having her 4th child and wanted to do a home birth, unassisted by a midwife (aka, her and her husband only). She is not a nurse and read books for research. She went her entire pregnancy without an ultrasound, doctor visit, nothing. She ends up having twins, both breeched. Everyone turned out fine but holy fvck. Talk about putting yourself in a really bad situation. <strong>Oh, and she named one of the babies Christmas Hope...they were not born in December.</strong>
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AllAboutTheBenjamin

I vote moron.

mrscarter052011

I'm going with hardcore idiot.  Its' one thing to have a home birth but there should be a trained medical professional there (ie. midwife, doctor) just in case. 

jasmineh7777

KD- Can I ask, why did you choose a midwife? If I were to have a kid, I would want all the drugs available, twice.

katiewhompus

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[QUOTE]I vote AW dumbass.She should have ditched the TV crew and, hell, the electricity, bed and fresh water too if she wanted to be really hardcore. Go shiit the little fuckers out in a field if you are really interested in going back to nature and DIY birthing. cut the cords with a stick and wipe your ass with some leaves and get back to work.
Posted by BecW2be[/QUOTE]

I love you Bec :)

ygpm back Jas

I'll probably try to arrange a doula, but right now I'm leaning hospital. If I did a home birth and something happened and the baby died I would never stop wondering if a hospital could have saved him/her.

mrscarter052011

Katie- I had a midwife deliver my daughter and when they thought I was going to have to go in for a c-section I was happy to be at a hospital.  Also, some hospitals allows doulas too.

vegasgroom

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[QUOTE]Excellent picture Jas :) But Anna, she couldn't afford one remember!
Posted by katiewhompus[/QUOTE]

Ah, one of *those* people; I can afford a kid but not a midwife.... I can feel my taxes rising as we speak.

jasmineh7777

What is a doula?

kd.joseph

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[QUOTE]KD- Can I ask, why did you choose a midwife? If I were to have a kid, I would want all the drugs available, twice.
Posted by jasmineh7777[/QUOTE]

Oh you still have everything available to you, they work out of the hospital. It was actually about cost at that point I was a single mother. But the regular doc still looks in on you.

And I was unable to have any drugs, so it didn't matter.

goheels05

Oh dear lord.  People like this ruin homebirths for everyone else.  I would never do a homebirth, but this is just off the deep end.

Jas, doulas coach you through your pregnancy, labor, and birth to help you tough out the pain of childbirth without meds and other medical interventions.  Some of them are all "the less medical intervention, the better" like this nutbag, but there are a wide spectrum of them and many are fine with most modern technologies, they just want to prevent you from having an unnecessary c-sec or other complications. 

katiewhompus

The best definition I've read of a doula was "a person who is there to help the mother emotionally and physically". They can also be a helpful go between the doctor and the patient, because they know all the medical stuff but have a longer relationship. Some will come home with them afterwards too and help with nursing, diaper changes, do some cooking, etc.

jasmineh7777

Thanks. I have a ton of respect for women that could do that. I pass out during blood tests, so I don't think it's in the cards for me.

[Deleted User]

I vote idiot. I don't mind home births, but to put your unborn children at risk like that is ridiculous. And to refuse any medical treatment throughout the pregnancy is stupid. My heart slowed and almost stopped in the womb and my mom had to go through a lot of medial crap to make sure I was healthy. How could any expectant mother live with herself knowing she wasn't making sure her baby (babies) were healthy?

goheels05

Sesh, that is so scary! 

I was reading an article in a magazine about birth and medical interventions and it was saying the doctors always rolled their eyes when a homebirth went awry and they ended up in the hospital all in a panic. 

goheels05

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[QUOTE]I vote AW dumbass.She should have ditched the TV crew and, hell, the electricity, bed and fresh water too if she wanted to be really hardcore. Go shiit the little fuckers out in a field if you are really interested in going back to nature and DIY birthing. cut the cords with a stick and wipe your ass with some leaves and get back to work.
Posted by BecW2be[/QUOTE]


I love you oh so much. 

loop0406

my grandma used to think ultrasounds would harm the baby. My mom never got an ultrasound and only went to the dr once, to confirm her pregnancy. My grandmother delivered all of my aunts/uncles at home (by herself) and everyone was okay.

However, I plan to take a different approach, the normal one in my eyes, get an ultrasound, check to see if baby is okay and deliver at hospital with medical professionals.

thesuninherhead

Unassisted pregnancies seem to be gaining momentum; I know a bunch of people online who advocate for them... Personally, I believe that not having an ultrasound is taking an unnecessary risk. If your infant has a heart condition or something similar and you don't identify the support they'll need at birth, they're going to die unnecessarily. Likewise, people who advocate for unassisted will talk about the fact that women have been birthing for years and thus there's no need for medical support... and yes, it's true women have been giving birth for years, but in years past rates of mortality were much, much higher. I'm all for lower levels of intervention, but I do feel it neglects the health of the infant to go completely unassisted.

thesuninherhead

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[QUOTE]Oh dear lord. <strong> People like this ruin homebirths for everyone else. </strong> 
<p>Posted by goheels05[/QUOTE]</p><p> </p><p>I agree with this assessment!</p>

katiewhompus

Sun, if you say you are having a hospital birth on my ttc board it has the same affect as saying you are having a cash bar here. Instant drama.

I definitely lean towards more holistic view of health and medicine, but not when it comes to birth. Yes women have been getting pregnant and having kids since the beginning of time but not in the quantities that we are having now. Plus you had a large community of women who knew what they were doing! It's not like first time mom's just popped them out in the middle of a field. There's very good evidence that hunter/gatherer communities had mid-wife type roles, or at the very least an elder who had assisted with births often.

golden1215

Wait... was this the lady whose drs wouldnt let her do a VBAC?  So she did it at home to avoid a c-section... or is this woman different

I've seen her story but dont remember the details.

Having had a super complicated delivery I couldnt imagine going to alone but eh, whatever floats her boat

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

You know, I'm pretty pro-home birth and would really be interested in doing it, but that's just stupid. If you have a high risk pregnancy (breech, multiples, any complications), you do it where the baby can get to NCIU within seconds if needed. And where they have more than some motrin and a hot towel for you, personally.

cupcakesfrosting

My FI is trying to convince me that when we do have kids, I should have a home birth. I keep trying to convince him, No. Haha. My body is so screwed up. We got pregnant almost 2 1/2 years ago, and I lost the Baby. I was so sick, in and out of the hospital.  I could never risk my life or the life of my child by having a home birth. I want to be in the hospital where there are drugs, and life-saving machines, etc. .