Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served?

cheeseandrice · March 2012

I'm not a fan of it either, and I don't think people should be able to sue if the tests were done correctly. They tell you that it's not a finality.

BUT the issue here is that a medical procedure was performed incorrectly. I don't see this as any different than another legitimate malpractice suit

ETA: the pro-life bias comment was meant for chels.

Anysunrise · March 2012

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[QUOTE]I think your strong pro-life bias is affecting your opinion of the case. If the tests were inconclusive, no lawsuit. If the doctors actually performed the test incorrectly, then I'm fine with the lawsuit. Just like any other medical malpractice suit.
Posted by Steph+J[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

And about the adopting thing; I'm sorry, but I really don't think she'd be finding another family immediately. I can't really see many scenarios where if you're adopting, you'd choose a child with a disability that will be expensive and difficult at times to care for when you could have a healthy one, especially since there's already more than enough of those in foster care. Maybe that makes me heartless, but it's my opinion.

Blueyed228 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]I'm not a fan of it either, and I don't think people should be able to sue if the tests were done correctly. They tell you that it's not a finality. BUT the issue here is that a medical procedure was performed incorrectly. I don't see this as any different than another legitimate malpractice suit ETA: the pro-life bias comment was meant for chels.
Posted by Steph+J[/QUOTE]

Then sue for that, dont sue because you didnt get the chance to abort, and dont sue for 3 million or whatever it is. That is a ridiculous amount of money for a test done incorrectly. They are using the "We didnt get a chance to abort" to milk it for as much money as possible.

Blueyed228 · March 2012

Also- with a risky test like removing tissue from a fetus, I highly doubt that the lab guarantees 100% accuracy.

ETA: And stuff like this part makes me mad, since what if the sample didnt have any cells with the extra chromosome?

Legacy's attorney, Robert Keating, called on experts who said the CVS was properly done, and that the results showed the girl has a normal genetic profile because she has mosiac Down syndrome, meaning a significant number of her cells don't contain an extra 21st chromosome

cheeseandrice · March 2012

I disagree Blue. They DID sue because the procedure was done wrong. If you read the article, it implies that the doctor and assistants KNEW there was an error and didn't communicate it.

The 'we didn't to get abort' only came into play in determining a cost associated with raising a child/adult with DS. Honestly, the $3 million sounds like a low estimate to me anyway. When you think of the medical and care costs for someone for a lifetime?

cheeseandrice · March 2012

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[QUOTE]Also- with a risky test like removing tissue from a fetus, I highly doubt that the lab guarantees 100% accuracy.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

<div>I totally agree. IF the test had been done correctly and the accurate results were communicated... then the parents would have no case.</div>

Blueyed228 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]I disagree Blue. They DID sue because the procedure was done wrong. If you read the article, it implies that the doctor and assistants KNEW there was an error and didn't communicate it. The 'we didn't to get abort' only came into play in determining a cost associated with raising a child/adult with DS. Honestly, the $3 million sounds like a low estimate to me anyway. When you think of the medical and care costs for someone for a lifetime?
Posted by Steph+J[/QUOTE]

I did read the article, it also said (in my ETA) that due to the type of Downs that she has, a significant number of her cells would not contain the extra chromosome.

Blueyed228 · March 2012

Also the statistics are wrong in that article. Her risk at age 34 is not 1 in 250 for Downs. Its 1 in 450ish. Her initial testing showed her risk was much greater at 1 in 130. I almost feel like that was her window of chance to make a decision.

I dont know. Its easy to judge her from here, and I am seriously judging her, but it might be because I feel like 15 weeks is way too fucking late to be making an abortion decision. She knew her risks.

maratea · March 2012

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[QUOTE]There was a really sad Jodi Piccoult book I read with a similar plot.
Posted by djhar[/QUOTE]
My Sister's Keeper?

I had an earlier response, but I see it's gone.

What I said was, if the procedure was done incorrectly and the mistake was known to the doctor/assistants but not the couple, then the doctor needs to assume liability and deal with the consequences.

This might make me an assholio, but I can't fault the couple for not wanting to raise a child with a disability. Some people are just not mentally prepared to raise a child with special needs, and it's their choice if they want to abort, since abortion is legal. Would you rather the parents raise a child they'll resent and inevitably love less?

Blueyed228 · March 2012

Mara- that article says that 89% of couples that find out, end up abortin babies with Downs.

chelseamb11 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]Mara- that article says that 89% of couples that find out, end up abortin babies with Downs.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

That seems so sad to me (and yeah Steph, I agree, it's the pro-life in me talking haha). I'm all for these tests just so you can be prepared, however I think it's not something that should be a deciding factor in whether or not to have an abortion. There are a million and one things that could go "wrong" with kids even after they are born. If you choose to be a parent, you need to be prepared for the curveballs that life might throw at you. Even if your kid doesn't have DS, so many other things could go wrong later. Do you get to abandon your kid at that point then if you're not emotionally/financially prepared to handle it? Idk, I'm not a parent, so maybe I'm off base for feeling this (and I'm sorry if I am), but I feel like if you aren't prepared to have a baby with a disability (any disability) I feel like you're not ready to be a parent in general. There's never a guarantee that nothing will ever change down the road.

acaponi87 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]Or how about if they tell them its a boy but it ends up being a girl? Sue then? This is just a slippery slope. DS is not a death sentance. Sure, it will be a little challenging to raise the child, but no different than having a child with another disablitly. This kind of stuff blows my mind. Part of me wants to be all "just be happy you had a healthy baby" but I know thats not fair to say either, so ill just sit here on my bias bitter couch.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

-How is predicting the sex of a child wrong the same thing as not catching a severe birth defect that will have huge implications in a couples ability to raise a child and the quality of the child's life??

And yes it is different than having a child with another disability. There is a huge range of birth defects out there..some mostly cosmetic, but Downs is not one of them. I think most people raising a child with Down's would say it's more than "a little challenging". I think raising a healthy child is probably "a little challenging".

Blueyed228 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : -How is predicting the sex of a child wrong the same thing as not catching a severe birth defect that will have huge implications in a couples ability to raise a child and the quality of the child's life?? And yes it is different than having a child with another disability. There is a huge range of birth defects out there..some mostly cosmetic, but Downs is not one of them. I think most people raising a child with Down's would say it's more than "a little challenging". I think raising a healthy child is probably "a little challenging".
Posted by acaponi87[/QUOTE]

Because they are both medical tests done that have a chance of being done wrong. So if she is suing (like others are saying) because the test was done incorrectly (even though that test has a 5% chance of pulling the sample from mom instead of baby, and another chance of being wrong due to her type of Downs), then people should be able to sue for all medical tests done incorrectly.

As for the rest of your post, if you want to split hairs over what is harder, raising a kid with downs, raising a kid with spina bifida, missing limbs, brain injuries, paralyzed, etc, then go ahead. There are plenty of other conditions that are WAY worse than having a child with a developmental disability.

mizutamababy · March 2012

[QUOTE]Or how about if they tell them its a boy but it ends up being a girl? Sue then? This is just a slippery slope. DS is not a death sentance. Sure, it will be a little challenging to raise the child, but no different than having a child with another disablitly. This kind of stuff blows my mind. Part of me wants to be all "just be happy you had a healthy baby" but I know thats not fair to say either, so ill just sit here on my bias bitter couch.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

Although the doctor should recognize their mistake, having a boy or a girl does not have a financial difference on the parents raising it. Making a mistake on whether the kid has DS or not isn't just an "oh whoopsie" mistake. The cost for raising a child with DS is quite high, and calling it "a little challenging" is kind of just glossing over the amount of love, work, and money required. Have you ever worked with DS children?

Also, they didn't have a healthy baby. They had a baby with DS. I somtimes wonder if a lot of the "be happy you had a baby" people on these boards would come to term with a child knowing it would have DS. I've seen too many pro-lifers that are like OMG abortion is horrible until they have some special snowflake reason to abort.

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[QUOTE]Do you get to abandon your kid at that point then if you're not emotionally/financially prepared to handle it? Idk, I'm not a parent, so maybe I'm off base for feeling this (and I'm sorry if I am), but I feel like if you aren't prepared to have a baby with a disability (any disability) I feel like you're not ready to be a parent in general. There's never a guarantee that nothing will ever change down the road.
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

I think it's a little different when a child you've raised and love is faced with disability and a fetus that not born yet. While, you may not have an emotional connection with a fetus as it grows inside of you, a lot of that changes once the baby is breathing and living.

In general, a child will be able to be care for himself/herself once he/she reaches the age of 18. This is not the case of DS children... You might be looking at a lifetime of care and then some. It requires some serious thought and because the doctor did the test wrong, the couple was not offered the chance to make a decision in their best interests and is now forced to take care of this child. I really doubt adoption would go well for reasons PP stated and just abandoning the child would be heartless.

I doubt most people make enough money to take care of a DS for a lifetime without it causing hardship or having help. So knowing that there is a teensy tiny chance that your child could be born with a condition you don't have the finances to cover, do you think that only rich people should be able to have children then? This make no sense.

J&K10910 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : That seems so sad to me (and yeah Steph, I agree, it's the pro-life in me talking haha). I'm all for these tests just so you can be prepared, however I think it's not something that should be a deciding factor in whether or not to have an abortion. There are a million and one things that could go "wrong" with kids even after they are born. If you choose to be a parent, you need to be prepared for the curveballs that life might throw at you. Even if your kid doesn't have DS, so many other things could go wrong later. Do you get to abandon your kid at that point then if you're not emotionally/financially prepared to handle it? Idk, I'm not a parent, so maybe I'm off base for feeling this (and I'm sorry if I am), but I feel like if you aren't prepared to have a baby with a disability (any disability) I feel like you're not ready to be a parent in general. There's never a guarantee that nothing will ever change down the road.
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

Well, I'd much rather have a fetus be aborted than have it born to parents that don't want it or aren't prepared/able to properly care for it because it's disabled. That child is going to have a hard enough life already being disabled, now you want to add by force parents that don't want to or can't deal with the disability? Or put the child into the foster/adoption system? Yeah, good plan.

Blueyed228 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]Although the doctor should recognize their mistake, having a boy or a girl does not have a financial difference on the parents raising it. Making a mistake on whether the kid has DS or not isn't just an "oh whoopsie" mistake. The cost for raising a child with DS is quite high, and calling it "a little challenging" is kind of just glossing over the amount of love, work, and money required. Have you ever worked with DS children? Also, they didn't have a healthy baby. They had a baby with DS. I somtimes wonder if a lot of the "be happy you had a baby" people on these boards would come to term with a child knowing it would have DS. I've seen too many pro-lifers that are like OMG abortion is horrible until they have some special snowflake reason to abort. Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

Who said it was? My point is the legality of the lawsuit. Should people be allowed to sue and win millions of dollars because they fell into the slim chance that the test was done incorrectly.

Secondly- yes I have. For years. Children and adults. Whats your point?

Third- eff you. I stated that my reason for thinking "be happy you have a baby" was bias due to my infertility issues. So yeah, if I had a Downs baby, I would keep it. And Im not pro-life. So eff you again for your reading comprehension fail.

NicoleSahara · March 2012

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[QUOTE] I think it's a little different when a child you've raised and love is faced with disability and a fetus that not born yet. While, you may not have an emotional connection with a fetus as it grows inside of you, a lot of that changes once the baby is breathing and living.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

Yeah, tell that to a mom who's had a miscarriage. Also, the baby IS living when it's in the womb.

Viczaesar · March 2012

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[QUOTE]There was a really sad Jodi Piccoult book I read with a similar plot.
Posted by djhar[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that one was an emotional killer. Not that her usual books are rays of sunshine and barrels of monkeys.

mizutamababy · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : Who said it was? My point is the legality of the lawsuit. Should people be allowed to sue and win millions of dollars because they fell into the slim chance that the test was done incorrectly.[/QUOTE]

I get that, and I'm saying they have a right to sue for the care of that child since the doctor's mistake was a costly one to the family. Mistaken gender? Sucks, but nobody's out a lot of money and care on that one.

[QUOTE] Secondly- yes I have. For years. Children and adults. Whats your point?[/QUOTE]

Shocked you could work with people with DS and only consider it only "a little challenging". Actually baffled, really.

[QUOTE]Third- eff you. I stated that my reason for thinking "be happy you have a baby" was bias due to my infertility issues. So yeah, if I had a Downs baby, I would keep it. And Im not pro-life. So eff you again for your reading comprehension fail.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

Your infertility issues have no bearing on what that couple should do, even if you brought them up. Take that shiit to the fvcked up threads on TB.

I think saying you know what you'd do if you were pregnant with a downs baby is like saying you'd know what you'd do if you were raped. Sorry, you don't get to have a mightier than thou opinion unless you're in the situation yourself. I'll just assume you're on wild hormones or something, or are hopefully a more mature person IRL.

tiffad · March 2012

I'm jumping into this way late so I'm just going to say my little piece. First off, there are a few people in here that could make me cry in happiness for what they believe. Why? Because my oldest daughter, who is only 28 months old, was born with trisomy 21 and fibular hemimelia. This is so rare there isn't even a statistic for it. We knew about the fibular hemimelia in utero but not about her having down syndrome until she was born. We chose not to have an amniocentesis because to us it didn't matter. This was our child and she was perfect however she came. Yes, there are times when it can be hard medically. My beautiful little girl has had heart surgery, her foot amputated and several other things that have had to be done. But honestly, she is no different than her sister. I would definitely classify it as only a "little challenging."

This whole idea that because a child has Down syndrome, or anything else, that everything related to them is difficult is ridiculous. Financially, there are tons of programs that help people who need the help. There are multitudes of programs that come to peoples houses for therapy, eduacation, nursing, the list goes on and on, that you don't have to pay for if that's needed. Education wise, it's the same. You read to your child, play with them, sing and dance with them. It doesn't change Downs syndrome or not. Honestly, I can't comprehend how selfish and lazy so much of our population is. Yes, you have the right to choose to abort or not. But unfortunately these tests are never 100% correct. I have a close friend who was told their son was severely disabled while she was carrying him. You know what, he came out completely "normal." She still hasn't forgiven herself that she even contemplated abortion.

I don't blame people for their choices. That's what make this country so great, that we have choices. I just wish more people would really think things out and research them first before they act. When you have children it's not about you anymore. If you can live with yourself after aborting your baby...Ok, but many people can't. They don't fully think it through and it haunts them.

Well, pretty much I could write all night with everything going on in my head. So please comment, ask questions, lambast me, whatever.

chelseamb11 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : I get that, and I'm saying they have a right to sue for the care of that child since the doctor's mistake was a costly one to the family. Mistaken gender? Sucks, but nobody's out a lot of money and care on that one. Shocked you could work with people with DS and only consider it only "a little challenging". Actually baffled, really. Your infertility issues have no bearing on what that couple should do, even if you brought them up. Take that shiit to the fvcked up threads on TB. I think saying you know what you'd do if you were pregnant with a downs baby is like saying you'd know what you'd do if you were raped. Sorry, you don't get to have a mightier than thou opinion unless you're in the situation yourself. I'll just assume you're on wild hormones or something, or are hopefully a more mature person IRL.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

That was not necessary and horribly insensitive of you.

maratea · March 2012

Mizu- I agreed with you right up until your last statement. But that was not necessary and cuntish.

mizutamababy · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : That was not necessary and horribly insensitive of you.
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I found it just as insensitive for her to be like OMG suck it up because at least you have a baby. It's purely irrational like getting pissed at someone who can afford a BMW when you can't have a car of your own.

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[QUOTE]Mizu- I agreed with you right up until your last statement. But that was not necessary and cuntish.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, so but if you want to be a biitch on here don't expect people to act all sunshine and rainbows back.

Nebb · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : I get that, and I'm saying they have a right to sue for the care of that child since the doctor's mistake was a costly one to the family. Mistaken gender? Sucks, but nobody's out a lot of money and care on that one. Shocked you could work with people with DS and only consider it only "a little challenging". Actually baffled, really. Your infertility issues have no bearing on what that couple should do, even if you brought them up. Take that shiit to the fvcked up threads on TB. I think saying you know what you'd do if you were pregnant with a downs baby is like saying you'd know what you'd do if you were raped. Sorry, you don't get to have a mightier than thou opinion unless you're in the situation yourself. I'll just assume you're on wild hormones or something, or are hopefully a more mature person IRL.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]
Wow. Welcome to the board you cunnt. Youre going to get along just swell here.

mizutamababy · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : Wow. Welcome to the board you cunnt. Youre going to get along just swell here.
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

I wasn't looking for the clique-y welcome. And if calling BS when I see it makes me a cunnt in your eyes, go right ahead.

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_frivolous-lawsuit-or-justice-being-served?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:ddd168c6-3322-4842-8539-9d0b5cb5adf6Post:57dd45f6-5e9b-4d75-9690-cf2b188e94d5">Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : Yes, because you sound so mature and not at all like a total douche right here.
Posted by djhar[/QUOTE]

It wasn't the nicest response, but my opinion wasn't personal until she was like EFF YOU YOU DON'T KNOW ME WAAAAAAH.

Nebb · March 2012

No, being a cunnt is what makes you a cunnt.

maratea · March 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_frivolous-lawsuit-or-justice-being-served?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:ddd168c6-3322-4842-8539-9d0b5cb5adf6Post:ee23d408-9f16-4bed-b2c8-fde188ec8084">Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served?</a>:
[QUOTE]No, being a cunnt is what makes you a cunnt.
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

Yes.

It's not that this board is clique-y, but when new posters make assumptions that are incorrect, people get pissed. I am, however, confident in assuming that you are a thundertwat.

chelseamb11 · March 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_frivolous-lawsuit-or-justice-being-served?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:ddd168c6-3322-4842-8539-9d0b5cb5adf6Post:45e4f1af-d137-4fd9-96ab-916a96741932">Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : I wasn't looking for the clique-y welcome. And if calling BS when I see it makes me a cunnt in your eyes, go right ahead. In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : It wasn't the nicest response, but my opinion wasn't personal until she was like EFF YOU YOU DON'T KNOW ME WAAAAAAH.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

Surprise surprise, TK ate my response to this.
How is it BS for a person, who very badly wants a baby and is going through a lot to do so, finds it sad that people find babies with DS to be a burden rather than a blessing like a child without disabilities would be?

As for the bolded.. Blue tells it pretty straight and nowhere did she say or even imply that.

I agree with the others. You were just being a douche with your comments.

Blueyed228 · March 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_frivolous-lawsuit-or-justice-being-served?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:ddd168c6-3322-4842-8539-9d0b5cb5adf6Post:cd9db43f-a749-4d07-86f9-dcc61048d199">Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Frivolous lawsuit or justice being served? : I get that, and I'm saying they have a right to sue for the care of that child since the doctor's mistake was a costly one to the family. Mistaken gender? Sucks, but nobody's out a lot of money and care on that one. Shocked you could work with people with DS and only consider it only "a little challenging". Actually baffled, really. Your infertility issues have no bearing on what that couple should do, even if you brought them up. Take that shiit to the fvcked up threads on TB. I think saying you know what you'd do if you were pregnant with a downs baby is like saying you'd know what you'd do if you were raped. Sorry, you don't get to have a mightier than thou opinion unless you're in the situation yourself. I'll just assume you're on wild hormones or something, or are hopefully a more mature person IRL.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

Listen heifer. You can take your condescension and fvck on off with it.

My whole point was that the medical test has a 5% chance of being incorrect. Which in this case it was. So the parents KNEW there was a chance it was wrong. They also KNEW at her age her risk was higher for downs, and in her first trimester she KNEW she was at even greater risk. Does it suck that she fell into that percentage? Yes. But should she be allowed to sue? No. If cases like this keep getting won, then drs are either going to refuse to do genetic testing, or to ensure 100% accuracy, these tests are going to become super invasive and even riskier to the pregnancy than they already are.

As for me working with people with DS, why is that so hard for you to believe. My concentration in my major was abnormal child psychology and I worked with lots of kids with lots of different challenges. My father also employs developmentally challenged adults at his warehouse and i worked with them for years. These people who you deem a waste of space. They work, they earn money, they learn to take care of themselves. This is all part of a FREE govt funded program. Doesnt cost their parents a red cent.

As for the rest of it, your just a fucking douche. Saying that I should have no opinion of it because I dont have a kid with downs is like me telling you to STFU unless you have been pregnant, or to STFU unless you have had an abortion. You have no idea what I would or would not choose to do. We can all theorize, and thats what people who have never been in certain situations do. The only one sitting on the holier than thou couch is you. I said a few times that I dont know what to think because in my current situation, my thoughts on it are a little bias. But its nice to know that to "win" you argument you have to find the low blow and take it. Proof in the pudding that you are what these girls have said you are. And id rather be here on my infertile couch than riding the cvnt train to cvntville.

My judgement of her is not because she would have aborted. My judgement of her is the fact that she is suing for 3 fucking million dollars and won when the risks were laid out for her.

AllAboutTheBenjamin · March 2012

Balls, you guys?

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