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NWR - Ever bring an unwilling child in for a vaccination?

Re: NWR - Ever bring an unwilling child in for a vaccination?

  • edited December 2011
    I'll bet the doctors and nurses will be terrified of that KID for years to come!  :) ~Donna
  • Sue-n-KevinSue-n-Kevin member
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    edited December 2011
    When I first saw your post I recalled my own daughter's vaccination at (I think) the age of 5. Her Dad and I both went with her because she is deathly afraid of needles. He's 6'3", 230 lbs, a pretty muscular guy. I'm fairly petite.

    He was holding her hands down, I had her legs...the nurse was putting it into her thigh......he somehow assumed the nurse would count down like 3, 2, 1.........but she didn't. He wasn't prepared and our beloved little 5 year reached down and pushed on the nurse's hand BENDING the needle where it meets the glass/hypodermic part. She didn't get the entire injection and they were all flustered, had the doc look at what was in the hypo, maybe she needs another one, etc. I was like "HEEEELLLLOOO? You think you guys are going to get NEAR her?" 

    This is the same child who at 3 or 6 months took a vaccine shot in the thigh and didn't even blink.......no reaction.

    She is getting better now though........she still frets when they want to prick her finger for blood work (hardly ever) and she's had all her shots except gardasil, and since she doesn't really LIKE boys "that way" yet, I still have time.
  • edited December 2011
    Oh man is that funny!  I loved the description of the step-swing-step...

    thanks for sharing!
  • edited December 2011
    When my 19 yo DS was 2, he was chasing his sister because he wanted her Pocahontas figurine.  She zigged, he zagged and hit the cabinet, splitting open his eyebrow.  Off to the ED (where, by the way, we spent EVERY day-before-vacation for quite a few years with this kid).   He was fine until it was time to suture his eyebrow. 

    The doc is ready to go.  Two nurses are holding his limbs as I look on.  He starts to squirm and they ask me to help.  By the time we were done, I was lying on him, under the surgical drapes, they were holding his limbs and he was furious.  At the time, the very worst "bad word" he knew was "stupid".  My charming baby, being physically restrained by 3 adults, screeching at the doctor, "YOU ARE STU-PID!!  YOU ARE SOOO STU-PID!!"  I was so proud.  ~Donna
  • fireytigerfireytiger member
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    edited December 2011
    As someone who's deathly afraid of needles, and after a years' worth of therapy have discovered that the underlying cause of a lot of it is traumatic experiences as a child, I have to say that this really sucks for that kid. I hope it turns out that later on in life she doesn't have issues, and if it's an isolated incident she'll probably be fine. But I'm so bad at this point that I act just like that kid when it comes to needles, I have horrible panic attacks over it. :/
  • edited December 2011
    There is a lot of research going on about eliminating needles for vaccinations and for other injected meds like insulin.  There are a lot of people in the world afraid of injections.  I hope this turns out to be the way of the future.
  • fireytigerfireytiger member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_second-weddings_nwr-ever-bring-unwilling-child-vaccination?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:35Discussion:f8251225-787f-496f-a97c-a8970f02b1d7Post:bcd2e2cc-b9f1-424d-a893-0dd5ce0a87ec">Re: NWR - Ever bring an unwilling child in for a vaccination?</a>:
    [QUOTE]There is a lot of research going on about eliminating needles for vaccinations and for other injected meds like insulin.  There are a lot of people in the world afraid of injections.  I hope this turns out to be the way of the future.
    Posted by right1thistime[/QUOTE]

    Well, I did see something about a doctor who created a device that shoots a laser on your arm for a moment, which removes the first layer of the skin painlessly. Then they rub some lidocaine on the location before giving the injection. Using the device first helps the anesthetic penetrate deeper and faster (in 2 to 3 minutes) rather than like taking 20 minutes and still not really doing much. It wouldn't help me any at this point due to the fact that i'm too fearful of the needles in general, but if that helps others avoid the fear then i'm all for it.
  • edited December 2011
    The one I've heard about sends a blast of gas at high speed/ high pressure to get the medication into the tissue.  Probably feels the same as an injection, but doesn't use a sharp, pointy metal device.

    Many vaccines are more effective if delivered intranasally, which is just a fine mist.

    Probably no current devices would make you comfortable, firey, with your trauma, but hopefully some of these will help future people from being traumatized.  ~Donna
  • handfast4mehandfast4me member
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    edited December 2011
    I'll stick with the needles, thank you very much.  Because if I hear one more story about government conspiracy with the vaccine on the sugar cube (that's how they did polio way back, so that there weren't needles in the hands of the untrained and because back then they were re-used), I will scream.  One needle/person, toss it, NEXT!!!!! 
    image Don't mess with the old dogs; age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! BS and brilliance only come with age and experience.
  • fireytigerfireytiger member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_second-weddings_nwr-ever-bring-unwilling-child-vaccination?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:35Discussion:f8251225-787f-496f-a97c-a8970f02b1d7Post:44bc7075-a3eb-4a2c-b17f-8d05be4c6ebf">Re: NWR - Ever bring an unwilling child in for a vaccination?</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'll stick with the needles, thank you very much.  Because if I hear one more story about government conspiracy with the vaccine on the sugar cube (that's how they did polio way back, so that there weren't needles in the hands of the untrained and because back then they were re-used), I will scream.  One needle/person, toss it, NEXT!!!!! 
    Posted by handfast4me[/QUOTE]

    Well, you can have mine then. ;)

    I'm actually getting a lot of crap at work lately, because we give flu shots and I'm refusing to get one. They keep telling me "but it's free!" "But you won't get the flu!" "But it doesn't hurt!" No, no, no. lol I think they have the nasal spray one, which i've never had because I'm not fond of liquid in my nose either, but because it's a live specimen i'm almost certain it will cause me to get the flu and/or a cold. The couple of times my dad dragged me in to get a flu shot, I ended up getting sick, with what was supposedly "not the flu". I think i'll pass. ;)
  • handfast4mehandfast4me member
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    edited December 2011
    Uh, Firey, no, it can't cause the flu.  It raises the antibodies.  But it's OK, hopefully herd immunity will work for you.  

    I was aggravated during the H1N1 outbreak that my then pregant daughter couldn't get vaccinated.  Can't give the live vaccine to a pregnant woman, and her OB wouldn't give  the injectable vaccine even though it's in the CDC guidelines. Dang, I called and yelled at him.  1 of 4 pregnant women who contracted H1N1 were dying!  I loved especially that there was some other woman on this board quoting the CDC guidelines to ME, not realizing what I do for a living.  Ha ha!   The kicker was that she was quoting them incorrectly.   Uh, duh. 
    image Don't mess with the old dogs; age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! BS and brilliance only come with age and experience.
  • edited December 2011
    What DO you do, handfast?
  • handfast4mehandfast4me member
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    edited December 2011
    I'll PM you.  Can't say in a public forum.
    image Don't mess with the old dogs; age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! BS and brilliance only come with age and experience.
  • fireytigerfireytiger member
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    edited December 2011
    Yeah, I know that the flu shot technically can't make you sick on its' own, i've heard that a million times and I do know that. The problem is with me, every single time I've gotten a flu shot, i've gotten really sick with a cold or the flu shortly afterwards. Normally I get the sniffles during the winter but nothing major, but something about flu shots screws with my immune system, and I get extremely sick. Dunno why.
  • handfast4mehandfast4me member
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    edited December 2011
    Yeah, since every year the flu shot protects against different strains, that is, uh, unusual.  
    image Don't mess with the old dogs; age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! BS and brilliance only come with age and experience.
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