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MOH problems (sorry long)

Wrote about a month ago, about issues I was having with my sister who is the MOH at my upcoming wedding. Recap: I had made plans with my other bridesmaids to go dress shopping 3 weeks ago, along with going to a bridal show, not expecting my sister to come. (she lives out of state) well she decided to come home and bring her new bf (James). After the weekend was over she call and said that I was rude to her during the dress shopping and that my and my FH (Brian) were rude to her new bf.
Since then she texted me and said that we needed to talk about the phone call, I decided that sending an email was better, that way nobody yelled or hung up, etc.

So I emailed her and said that  is my point of view of the situation, and hopefully this allows you to resolve this issue.  Your call Monday night was rude and uncalled for. Basiclly said that we rearranged a lot of our weekend to try and see her and bf as much as possible. Had other plans that we cancled and moved.

I have been trying to get this dress fitting done for a month and a half, and have had issues with some of the bridesmaids constantly cancelling.  The night before this I get a call that one of my other BM and her daughter had a big fight, so I’m thinking I'm  going to have to reschedule yet again.  Told her that  I didn't think I ignored her but at the same time I thought my sister had it together, knew what she wanted and was mature enough to support me.  Not cry that she didn’t get enough attention when I was just trying to FINALLY get this dress fitting done.

Then talked about her new bf. Said that he seems like a nice guy and that I came before the dress fitting to meet him. Didn't have too, could have just met him later, but wanted to meet the guy that she had raved about for 25 minutes.
Mentioned that  I was involved with the conversations Brian was trying to start at lunch, but it felt like a question and answer session because James was kind of quiet and not really asking any questions back to continue a conversation. Said As far as before dinner goes, I didn’t mean anything by not talking much, but by that time I was getting tired after being up since 3 am, and it was a little hot and crowded.  At dinner I was on the completely opposite corner of the table so it was very difficult to hear any of the conversation on that end. Not only that, but before you even got home there was talk about you trying to balance your weekend to see the family and have some personal time with James.  So Brian and I never pushed.  I was actually excited to show you our apartment but Brian thought you’d rather have your time with James.  Since, in his words, you haven’t even really had a week of face time with the guy.

Now on to Brian, of course he was angry when you called.
Brian says, “I can’t believe how self-centered your sister is.  I had no idea she was that bad, it’s disappointing cause I thought she was more mature than that.  We change our entire weekend for her and she gets all pissy.  I guess I’ll have to show her what being rude is next time, so she understands the difference.  I feel sorry for James falling for her. He seemed like a nice guy, little quiet but nice.”
Then there was something about pampered princess not being able to handle big boy talk and lucky she hung up the phone. So yes he was mad and had every right to be.

You said your peace on the phone and here is mine.  I’m sorry you envisioned your weekend going different, I’m sorry you were disappointed in how it turned out, but that doesn’t give you a right to project that disappointment on us.  You are my sister and I love you, so I forgive you for the accusations. With that said we are passed it, it’s your issue to get over.  I do still want to do Christmas gifts together, but if that won’t work for you that’s fine too.  Talk to you later.

She emailed back and said that she would be doing X-mas gifts alone, I said fine that is your choice, if you change your mind, you are more then welcome to still get the gifts with us. And that at some point we needed to talk about some wedding stuff. No reply. Today I get a text asking about the gift for my mom, I told her that she said she didn't want to do joint gifts and that if she still wanted to she was more than welcome.  She said no, I responed that she never answered my question about the wedding. She said that I should just find someone else to help me. I asked if she would be explaining to our mom why she, my only sister and MOH, wasn't helping me with my wedding plans. She then said that my mom has know about all of this for awhile, but has never said anything.
So how do I handle this? My only sister wants no part of helping me and from what I got from my mom she thinks that my FH and I are in the wrong. I need some advice.

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Re: MOH problems (sorry long)

  • nlindsay17nlindsay17 member
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    edited December 2011
    The only two people that need to be planning your wedding are you and your FI period.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_moms-maids_moh-problems-sorry-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:357Discussion:bcac78b8-4536-42c9-89d7-a36d5acffc84Post:fe308b5d-56ff-48ae-a95f-fa2b1cdefc34">MOH problems (sorry long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>She said that I should just find someone else to help me. I asked if she would be explaining to our mom why she, my only sister and MOH, wasn't helping me with my wedding plans. She then said that my mom has know about all of this for awhile, but has never said anything. So how do I handle this? My only sister wants no part of helping me and from what I got from my mom she thinks that my FH and I are in the wrong. I need some advice.
    </strong>Posted by MissMegs2010[/QUOTE]

    You ARE in the wrong, at least as far as thinking your sister is supposed to be helping you with your wedding plans.  MOH is not code for "unpaid wedding planner" - yes, some MOHs like being a part of and choose to be a part of the bride's planning process, but it's by no means "required."  An MOH's only job is to show up at the wedding, clean and sober, in the right dress (and possibly to sign the marriage license, depending on how that works in your state).  This is your and your FI's wedding, not your sister's - it's up to you and him to plan it.
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  • edited December 2011
    Okay, basically I think you guys (you and your FI) overreacted.  Yes, I'm sure she butted into your weekend, but hey, that's what sisters do, right? (I have two).  Your fiance's reply about "I guess I'll just show her what rude is next time" is totally not cool. When I read that I expected you to talk about how rude that was to your sister and how that turned into some drama, but instead you implied he had a right to feel that way. But she's your family, and soon to be his, and he should respect her. I'm not saying she wasn't rude or there wasn't a real situation going on, just that you should always strive to be mature and loving with your family, as much as possible.  Be quick to apologize and quick to forgive and you'll live longer.

    So if I were you, I'd back off and give it space. Don't stress about it and focus on other things for the next few weeks. I'm not sure about what Christmas gifts together means but I think it means you usually buy a joint present for maybe your parents? If that's the case, just buy separate presents this year. Make sure you buy her a present, even if she doesn't get you one. Show her love, and try not to let her under your skin. 

    It'll probably blow over.  If not, then just be respectful and don't incite anything with her for the rest of the wedding process and it'll probably be okay. Family obligation will probably kick in and she'll at least stand for you... and honestly, that's all you can require of her. It'd be nice if she wanted to help, but if she doesn't, that's her right. You have others to be your support system.

    Good luck and I hope the family is more peaceful by Chrismas.
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  • MissMegs2010MissMegs2010 member
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    edited December 2011
    I guess by planning I mean my bridal shower and bachlorette party. Most of the other wedding stuff is done, so I don't need help with any of that. When she called to bring all this up I was really upset and started to cry and he took the phone and said that she was being rude to me, she hung up on him.
    I've been trying to give it space hoping that she will come around, but then she brings all this up again and its just getting to be too much. I love my sister, but I can't deal with being accused of something that I didn't do.
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_moms-maids_moh-problems-sorry-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:357Discussion:bcac78b8-4536-42c9-89d7-a36d5acffc84Post:5d619f8d-4a55-435a-89a7-9b3b8b0c9bb6">Re: MOH problems (sorry long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I guess by planning I mean my bridal shower and bachlorette party. Most of the other wedding stuff is done, so I don't need help with any of that. When she called to bring all this up I was really upset and started to cry and he took the phone and said that she was being rude to me, she hung up on him. I've been trying to give it space hoping that she will come around, but then she brings all this up again and its just getting to be too much. I love my sister, but I can't deal with being accused of something that I didn't do.
    Posted by MissMegs2010[/QUOTE]

    It's also not her job to plan your bridal shower and b-party.  Those are not requirements.  If other people offer to throw them for you, you may graciously accept, but that's it.  You don't get to plan your own shower or b-party, and it's no one's "job" to plan them for you.  With pre-wedding parties, if no one plans them for you, you don't get them.  This is because these are parties to be held in your honor (and also, at least for the shower, gift-giving occasions) and it's very, very rude to throw parties in your own honor, <em>especially</em> when gifts are involved.
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  • MissMegs2010MissMegs2010 member
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    edited December 2011
    She offered to host/plan whatever you want to call it, but now she has changed her mind.  Was never planning on hosting it myself, and if she doesn't want to do it, I have other people who will, but she has already said that she would do it.
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  • edited December 2011
    No one, not even your sister/MOH owes you a bridal shower and bp. Those are gifts, not entitlements. Anyone may volunteer to throw those parties for you. But you should not expect them.

    You and your sister need to find a new way of working out your differences. When she told you she was offended about the way you treated her and her boyfriend, you should have stuck to that one topic, rather than drag your wedding, Christmas and whatever else you could think of, into the argument. And your fi didn't help by jumping into the middle of it, either. It just seems so childish.
                       
  • LOUANNW12LOUANNW12 member
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    edited December 2011
    I am having nearly the same issues as you and when I posted my problems, I recieved nearly the same answers,lol.  It is not your MOH's job to plan or do anything, although we may have and need other expectations of them.  SO let it go, do what you can yourself and ask those you know care to help you with what you cant.  If someone wants to throw a shower they will and your other bm should throw a girls night.  In other words I am getting we are on out own!! SO sorry, but I am in the same boat!
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