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Bridal shower invite no wedding invite

Ok before you comment based on the title please read! This was not my doing! Both me and FI church families are too big to invite everyone so there are still some people hanging out in the balance and looking for a wedding invite. So one of those people comes up to my parents Sunday at church and ask when is the wedding again? They tell her. She says she won't be able to make it because she has blah blah blah. So then she asks if my bridal shower will be local? My mom says yes. So she says ok well I'll just bring her gift then.

So now my mom is like, the ladies from church who can't come to the wedding can you at least let them come to the shower? And furthermore how do I handle this woman who THINKS she is invited but is declining on her own. Don't get me wrong, I like these ladies. It's maybe 5 ladies at church and they are senior ushers who watched me grow up on the usher board but they just didn't make my have to be at the wedding list.

So I said these exact words to my mom. "MA! I don't know. I'll have to ask the girls and get back to you." and by the girls I meant you all! So girls? What do we say? How do we handle this?
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    "MA! I don't know. I'll have to ask the girls and get back to you."

    cute!

    *stagesigh* girl you already know what i'm going to say, but for the transcript i'll say it anyway.   It is improper to invite someone to your shower whom you do not intend to invite to your wedding.  It's the verbal equivalent of saying hey I'd love for you to be involved in the part of the time that involves literally, showering me with presents, but sorry, I'm not including you in the part that's costing me dough.    <--- I'm not implying that this is your thought process I'm explaining why it's rude.  

    As for Sister Usherboard, she's already taken care of herself.   I know that managing mom has been a challenge right now - and I even know from your posts that she really doesn't mean any harm, but luvie for your own sanity, you have to find a way to communicate to her that while you're eternally grateful for their well wishes, you also need to have limitations.    Man what happened to this week's talk lol!! how did we get back here Tray? 

    ETA:   So one of those people comes up to my parents Sunday at church and ask when is the wedding again? They tell her.

    oh my days, why is this happening??  The answer is:  it's right around the corner.

    and

    So now my mom is like, the ladies from church who can't come to the wedding can you at least let them come to the shower?

    I say this with no disrespect to your mom, but she doesn't get it. 
     
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    [QUOTE]"MA! I don't know. I'll have to ask the girls and get back to you." cute! *stagesigh* girl you already know what i'm going to say, but for the transcript i'll say it anyway.   It is improper to invite someone to your shower whom you do not intend to invite to your wedding.  It's the verbal equivalent of saying hey I'd love for you to be involved in the part of the time that involves literally , showering me with presents, but sorry, I'm not including you in the part that's costing me dough.    <--- I'm not implying that this is your thought process I'm explaining why it's rude.   As for Sister Usherboard, she's already taken care of herself.   I know that managing mom has been a challenge right now - and I even know from your posts that she really doesn't mean any harm, but luvie for your own sanity, you have to find a way to communicate to her that while you're eternally grateful for their well wishes, you also need to have limitations.    Man what happened to this week's talk lol!! <strong>how did we get back here Tray?</strong>   
    Posted by sultryzulu[/QUOTE]

    LMAO That's what my FI and dad call me!

    I know it's rude and I told my mom and she's like wwweelllllll <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-embarassed.gif" border="0" alt="Embarassed" title="Embarassed" />.

    Ok so give us a line to use because Me and Mom are going to have to rehearse this so we don't have anymore confusion!!
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    [QUOTE]Ok before you comment based on the title please read! This was not my doing! Both me and FI church families are too big to invite everyone so there are still some people hanging out in the balance and looking for a wedding invite. So one of those people comes up to my parents Sunday at church and ask when is the wedding again? They tell her. She says she won't be able to make it because she has blah blah blah. So then she asks if my bridal shower will be local? My mom says yes. So she says ok well I'll just bring her gift then. So now my mom is like, the ladies from church who can't come to the wedding can you at least let them come to the shower? And furthermore how do I handle this woman who THINKS she is invited but is declining on her own. Don't get me wrong, I like these ladies. It's maybe 5 ladies at church and they are senior ushers who watched me grow up on the usher board but they just didn't make my have to be at the wedding list. So I said these exact words to my mom. "MA! I don't know. I'll have to ask the girls and get back to you." and by the girls I meant you all! So girls? What do we say? How do we handle this?
    Posted by MrsBoss2012[/QUOTE]

    How many is *some* that are waiting on invite? If it's only 5, could you do it? assuming 2 or 3 will decline? Can you have your parents try to mention to the church attendants and get word around that you're having a "small" wedding?

    SORRY I'M NO HELP :(
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  • I just feel like if I let the ushers come then I have to let all my Sunday School teachers come then the choir LOL It will open a can of worms and that's why I cut it off. My mom was like "well you have a lot of people who love you." Thanks for the guilt trip!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Bridal shower invite no wedding invite : How many is *some* that are waiting on invite? If it's only 5, could you do it? assuming 2 or 3 will decline? Can you have your parents try to mention to the church attendants and get word around that you're having a "small" wedding? SORRY I'M NO HELP :(
    Posted by footballwife77[/QUOTE]

    errrr! NO TASH!! she can't.  lol.   Lawd, don't mind me ya'll I had the double espresso this morning.    for reals though, it's enough.  it's a church family though so the thing is if she tells one, yeah, finish the sentence.

    alright my love, the sentence for the parents - well hell first find out if they're willing to say it.   But if they are the go betweens:  

    "They are eternally grateful for your love and support as a church home and family and have been flooded by such an enormous outpouring of love that their cup overfloweth, shower, wedding, i'm sorry miss ruth, they've got a full house, <strong>she would kill me if I opened my mouth about one more thing</strong>."    tell her to lean hard on the bolded part cuz it's kind of a true story.
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    [QUOTE]" It is improper to invite someone to your shower whom you do not intend to invite to your wedding.  It's the verbal equivalent of saying hey I'd love for you to be involved in the part of the time that involves literally , showering me with presents, but sorry, I'm not including you in the part that's costing me dough.    <--- I'm not implying that this is your thought process I'm explaining why it's rude.   
    Posted by sultryzulu[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Good to know, as this whole shower thing is new to me. But now I'm so confused. I thought it would nice to at least invite those women who I'm close to but cant make/travel to my OOT wedding. That's why my BM made it local. But I get the rude issue too. </div><div>
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  • M1ssJM1ssJ member
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    I recieved a similar guilt trip. Ended up inviting some ppl who will absolutely not be invited to the wedding. And honestly they were ok with it. I felt so rude about it but my Mom is head usher and she talks about me nonstop to these ppl so..... I gave in .....

    I realize, especially with older people, they just dont want to feel left out and are way less offended by etiquette than we would be. Invite them. Keep it moving
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  • trace i'm sorry for the jack, one more thing?

    Good to know, as this whole shower thing is new to me. But now I'm so confused. I thought it would nice to at least invite those women who I'm close to but cant make/travel to my OOT wedding. That's why my BM made it local. But I get the rude issue too.

    to be clear:  that you want to accommodate them because you know they can't make it to the wedding is considerate, the part that's considered rude is that you aren't giving them the option of declining the wedding.   also risky (to invite people you're pretty sure will say no)
  • edited June 2012
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    [QUOTE]I recieved a similar guilt trip. Ended up inviting some ppl who will absolutely not be invited to the wedding. And honestly they were ok with it. I felt so rude about it but my Mom is head usher and she talks about me nonstop to these ppl so..... I gave in ..... I realize, especially with older people, they just dont want to feel left out and are way less offended by etiquette than we would be. Invite them. Keep it moving
    Posted by M1ssJ[/QUOTE]

    So are you or your mom letting them know they aren't invited to the wedding?
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  • I thought church showers were the exception to the rule....BUT since you are having a shower and then only inviting some church members then i'm kind of stumped. My answer would be No cause they might change their minds and think they can come to the wedding.

     

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bridal shower invite no wedding invite : <strong>So are you or your mom</strong> letting them know they aren't invited to the wedding?
    Posted by MrsBoss2012[/QUOTE]
    My mom must have and some of them have children our age who have been married and they felt awful about not inviting everyone.<div>
    </div><div>At the shower these few thanked me repeatedly for including them which made me tear up because they literally have known me all my life and were genuinely excited when I was talking to them I apologized for not being able to invite them to the wedding and they waved me off lke "no worries we understand!"</div>
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    [QUOTE]I thought church showers were the exception to the rule....BUT since you are having a shower and then only inviting some church members then i'm kind of stumped. My answer would be No cause they might change their minds and think they can come to the wedding.
    Posted by MsAmeera25[/QUOTE]

    <div>In addition my wedding is OOT so... I know some of them are not trying to travel!</div>
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  • This is so hard. Mine is out of town but close enough where they can come. It may be a no.
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    Can you have a church shower? in the church fellowship hall as a way to recognize them but not exclude them? How many ppl are you looking at?
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  • Tell your mom to plan a church shower, then everyone is invited and they don't feel left out. Only letting a few ppl from the church come may have the other ppl talking about you.

     

  • I will bring the idea up to her! There's a good handful of people who made the list. Mostly my friends I grew up with and their parents. But there is also a handful who aren't invited, my parent's friends and previously mentioned ushers, sunday school teachers, choir members, etc. We'll see her answer since this will be dipping into HER pockets!
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  • I have an update! Talked to mom. I told her the two options were 1. to throw a separate church shower or 2. stop inviting people. I told her if we go with option 2 then here is what we need to say...SULTRY I literally took pieces of your phrasing and made her practice! When I got to the part my daughter will kill me, she was like "yeah I know I'm already on death row and I'm trying to be good!" LOL So she get's it ya'll!

    So she then went back to option 1 and was like well your dad and I were talking and we wanted to do something like that after the wedding. I guess this was my dad's idea and he wanted to invite the church for an informal "thing" back home to congratulate us. I guess MORE people have been asking. We go to a pretty large church and my dad is one of the associate ministers so alot of people know me and have watched me grow up. My uncle is also a Pastor in the city and that church has watched me grow up too. I told her that sounds fine to me if they want to do something like that. At this point I'm not even going to ask about the etiquette. It sounds more like a reverse engagement party....IDK.
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    That's a perfect solution. A separate church shower and an informal marriage celebration when you get back is a great way to include everyone
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    [QUOTE]That's a perfect solution. A separate church shower and an <strong>informal marriage celebration</strong> when you get back is a great way to include everyone
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    Maybe that's the word I'm looking for instead of "thing." LOL I'm asking her "Why didn't ya'll mention this before?!"
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bridal shower invite no wedding invite : Maybe that's the word I'm looking for instead of "thing." LOL I'm asking her "Why didn't ya'll mention this before?!"
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    </div><div>Great idea! Yeah, I had not said anything else, but I read online to just to have a pre-wedding party, oppose to shower. And I wrote a poem to let people know I dont not except gifts. Yay for us! Thanks for letting my hi-jack a little!</div>
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  • I'm so glad it worked out Tray!  It's really nice that they want to be part of the celebration and even sweeter that you found a way to include them :)
  • I may as well add my 2 cents. FI's sister had a small reception at her church immediately following the ceremony which was specifically for the church members. She had a cake and took some pics with them and I don't know what else (I wasn't there) but I remember her making it to the real reception on time, which was like a half hr away. So, maybe you can do something like this for the church fam.
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  • In Response to Re:Bridal shower invite no wedding invite:[QUOTE]I may as well add my 2 cents. FI's sister had a small reception at her church immediately following the ceremony which was specifically for the church members. She had a cake and took some pics with them and I don't know what else I wasn't therenbsp;but I remember her making it to the realnbsp;reception on time, which was like a half hr away. So, maybe you can do something like this for the church fam. Posted by TL25[/QUOTE]

    Thanks TL...the wedding is not in my hometown that's why we're having such a hard time figuring where to fit the church people in. I think the "marriage celebration party" will work!

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