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Clearing up NFP misconceptions

Good morning ladies!  In light of the earlier conversations about birth control, I thought I'd share a little bit more about NFP.  FI and I have been researching options and a mentor/friend of mine from HS is now working at a fertility care center in my town that uses NFP, or the Creighton Model.  I asked her to write up a little something about NFP to clear up any misconceptions as you go through the process of determining what is right for you and your hubby to be.  Please keep in mind that I comptelely understand that what you choose to do for BC is a personal choice, and none of my business, but I know there are a lot of questions out there and there isn't a whole lot of information (and accurate information!!) regarding NFP.  While NFP is generally seen as a Catholic thing, and Suzy tells her information from a Catholic standpoint, it really can apply to anybody, regardless of religion.  The trickiest issue is that some believe that BCP can cause abortions, depending on your viewpoint on what constitutes an abortion.  Please do not think I'm judging anyone.  It's just information that I want to put out there so you may have more information about this concept. If you are interested in contacting her with any questions or to have her help you find someone in your area, please PM me and I will give you her email address.  You may also go to the Michiana Care Center website and contact her through there.  I just don't want to have lots of random people emailing her :-)

From Suzy:
Hey ladies!

I wanted to let you know about a great form of Family Planning. It’s called the Creighton Model FertilityCare System and it is the best of all worlds. It is natural (no chemicals being put into your body) and it is AS or MORE effective than any type of contraception (99.5% perfect use effectiveness) in preventing pregnancy. PCOS? Endometriosis? PMS? Ovarian cysts? Irregular cycles? No problem…this is the perfect solution. It not only is effective at avoiding pregnancy, but it also works in tandem with NaPro Technology to help identify any health issues and treat them. For those trying to achieve a pregnancy NaPro Technology, it is nearly 3 times more effective than IVF or any other artificial reproductive technologies in achieving pregnancy (without creating life outside of the marital act or resulting in extra embryos to freeze or destroy).

The Creighton Model is highly scientific with over 30 years of research behind it. There are doctors throughout the world trained in assisting women who use this method and it is acceptable to people of all faiths. The Center I work in has a website you might find helpful: http://www.facebook.com/l/41446bFGR7kZXwyqJpOowhWG3QA/www.fccmichiana.org and you can also locate a teacher and/or doctor near you at http://www.facebook.com/l/41446z2UBX8wWq9y_rMQWTeL5iQ/www.fertilitycare.org

The other truth that I think we need to know (especially as Christians) is that the Pill can act as an abortifacient. If we are on the Pill, we could conceive a baby and abort it without knowing. The Pill has four mechanisms. 1) prevent ovulation 2) change/thicken cervical mucus so that sperm cannot reach the egg 3) restrict the transport of the ovum and sperm and 4) prevent implantation in the uterus. That means, that if a woman does ovulate while on the Pill (which happens about 10% of the time) and the sperm does meet the egg, a new unique life is conceived which could then either get stuck in the fallopian tubes (ectopic pregnancy) or cannot implant in the uterus because the uterine lining is made inhospitable by the Pill. So without knowing it, a married couple could be conceiving children and aborting them without knowing it, depending on when you consider the start of a new life. If you want more information in this you can check out: http://www.facebook.com/l/41446Wo4lmhvcBF3XUhlZr_N4vw/www.28daysonthepill.com/ (this website is not affiliated with the Creighton Model).

Additionally, did you know that the risk of miscarriage post-Pill is really high for several months after discontinuing use? Also, by tracking, your body is able to tell you what is going on inside of it.  Tracking can help doctors diagnose problems with your reproduction system.  BCP merely covers them up.  These are some of the reasons that many people, Christians, and non Christians alike are using or researching the Creighton Model FertilityCare System. It is all natural, and tailored to our specific situation. You have a teacher that will work one-on-one with you to teach and support you. I hope you’ll check out the websites I’ve listed to learn more!

Blessings to you all!

Suzy

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Re: Clearing up NFP misconceptions

  • edited December 2011
    I also was interested in finding out more information about NFP, FAM, and all of the different methods of HBC, so I found this website last night.  It approaches BC from the married Christian's perspective, so this might help folks find information that is worth considering.  


    What I thought was interesting is that they reference a verse that my church has referenced with regards to physical intimacy between a husband and wife -- 

    I Corinthians 7:5 "Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self control."

    Here is more explanation on the verse that is said much better than I could say it.  

    Anyway, I guess I'll remain undecided until I can go talk with an OB/GYN about it, hopefully within the next two months.  If I decide to do FAM, I want to start charting (etc) ASAP, and if I start HBC, I want to start soon so that I can get the hormones right or change pills if I react badly.  I noticed that the patch is not as effective for women who are overweight, and I'm overweight, but not obese, and I think it's probably better not to take risks on something like that just for convenience's sake. 

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  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
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    edited December 2011
    I've been charting Creighton for 9 years -- started for my health. My NFP-only doc found problems from my charts that never would have been found otherwise. I have PCOS-- and it is being fixed, NOT by the pill, which only masks symptoms and makes it looks like everything is ok, but the cause is being fixed. I also discovered I have low progesterone which contributed to depression feelings, I take a natural progesterone, at the right time-- have to chart to know when the right time is, that helps my body produce more of its own progesterone. No more depression.

    Most ob/gyns will blow off any kind of mention of NFP. IF you want to find a NFP-only doc, you can go to www.omsoul.com. They know napro technology and how to read charts.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_clearing-up-nfp-misconceptions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:85d6785b-a79a-45ab-9ddc-73441c7bacefPost:2f128766-b3e5-4470-8e87-c5d708159ddd">Re: Clearing up NFP misconceptions</a>:
    [QUOTE]I've been charting Creighton for 9 years -- started for my health. My NFP-only doc found problems from my charts that never would have been found otherwise. I have PCOS-- and it is being fixed, NOT by the pill, which only masks symptoms and makes it looks like everything is ok, but the cause is being fixed. I also discovered I have low progesterone which contributed to depression feelings, I take a natural progesterone, at the right time-- have to chart to know when the right time is, that helps my body produce more of its own progesterone. No more depression. Most ob/gyns will blow off any kind of mention of NFP. IF you want to find a NFP-only doc, you can go to <a href="http://www.omsoul.com" rel='nofollow'>www.omsoul.com</a>. They know napro technology and how to read charts.
    Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]


    Wow!  I have been on birth control since I was 16 because of PCOS!  I got very heavy (320 lbs) and have since had gastic bypass and have lost 163 lbs.  I went in to my gyno and she did not want me to be on the hormones anymore because I have a heart arrythmia.  Well, I am happy to say that the past two months I've had a regular cycle and I haven't had a regular one ever.  I am hopeful that my PCOS is better, but I may look into this Creighton model thing to see if it may help as well.  I also have low progesterone. Thanks.
  • edited December 2011
    Thank you for posting this. I think that a lot of girls think that NFP/FAM is the Rhythm method and say things like "it won't work". This method is highly effective for someone who is interested in learning about how to do this. It is surprisingly simple.
  • DramaGeekDramaGeek member
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    edited December 2011
    I have a question about switching from BCP to NFP/FAM.  We've used BCP exclusively for several reasons, but I wouldn't mind going off (though the lack of cramps the past 8 years has been heavenly).  We're planning on a vasectomy sometime this year, but let's pretend that doesn't happen.  How does one go from BCP to charting without risk of pregnancy?  We'd have to use barriers for 3 or so months, right?
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_clearing-up-nfp-misconceptions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:85d6785b-a79a-45ab-9ddc-73441c7bacefPost:7491d362-39d5-4646-9b72-c4b01de9a46d">Re: Clearing up NFP misconceptions</a>:
    [QUOTE]I have a question about switching from BCP to NFP/FAM.  We've used BCP exclusively for several reasons, but I wouldn't mind going off (though the lack of cramps the past 8 years has been heavenly).  We're planning on a vasectomy sometime this year, but let's pretend that doesn't happen.  How does one go from BCP to charting without risk of pregnancy?  <strong>We'd have to use barriers for 3 or so months, right?</strong>
    Posted by DramaGeek[/QUOTE]

    Yes.  There are women over on the boards at <a href="http://www.christianfamilyplanning.net" rel='nofollow'>www.christianfamilyplanning.net</a> who have switched and could answer your questions, as well.  It does take about a day to have your account confirmed before you can post, but it's been a wonderful resource as I've been learning how to chart and observe other signs of fertility.
  • twixinthemixtwixinthemix member
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    edited December 2011
    I'm no expert yet, but I would use barriers for the first few months while you get the hang of charting.  However, because it's NOT the rhythm method, you'll be able to tell each day where your body is in it's cycle, and if you are in your fertile time or not.  However, to be safe, use barriers for the first few months while you get the hang of charting and all that jazz.  If you'd like, I can send you Suzy's email address and I'm sure she can better answer your question!

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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_clearing-up-nfp-misconceptions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:85d6785b-a79a-45ab-9ddc-73441c7bacefPost:d91c6cf7-3b2a-4eed-bf89-9037b68db91e">Re: Clearing up NFP misconceptions</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Clearing up NFP misconceptions : Wow!  I have been on birth control since I was 16 because of PCOS!  I got very heavy (320 lbs) and have since had gastic bypass and have lost 163 lbs.  I went in to my gyno and she did not want me to be on the hormones anymore because I have a heart arrythmia.  Well, I am happy to say that the past two months I've had a regular cycle and I haven't had a regular one ever.  I am hopeful that my PCOS is better, but I may look into this Creighton model thing to see if it may help as well.  I also have low progesterone. Thanks.
    Posted by jkh1182[/QUOTE]

    Yes, PCOS is very connected to blood sugar issues. I went on blood sugar medicine and dropped a lot of weight. Then watching the unhealthy carbs keeps things in check.  They did a fasting blood sugar test, as well as ultrasound to check for the cysts to confirm.
  • edited December 2011
    Sometimes it takes your CF to return to normal after a while of being on the pill. You will be able to tell if you've ovulated from your chart. It's my understanding that your body may or may not ovulate for a few months after you come off the pill - which is why its wise to use barriers for a little while. After your chart indicates you've ovulated you can move into the low/high fertility and infertile monitoring like usual.
  • Calypso1977Calypso1977 member
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    edited December 2011
    we abstained for 3 cycles when transitioning from the pill to NFP.  better safe than sorry.  i wanted to see pattenrs and get a hang of the method.

    FAM allows for barriers, but the bottom line is you are going to use those barriers when you know you are fertile.  so, should the barrier fail, you could potentially get pregnant.  if avoiding pregnancy is absolutely crucial, id abstain for the fertle phase.  its really not that long.
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