Wow...I guess I have been mistaken all these years!

SugarFoote

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ETA: For personal enjoyment purposes, it has been transferred to the FB page.

musicalsunlight

This just makes me sad.

jenningz

I don't know what's going on.

VeggieLove1022

http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_so-poll-at-what-age_.3

SugarFoote

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Posted by VeggieLove1022[/QUOTE]

Good job!

azdancer8

Sugar, you overreacted and pretty much set yourself up for getting flamed. Maybe you need to just let this one go.

The SB women are funny, witty, often sarcastic, and thoroughly enjoyable. I also really enjoy many of the ladies here on CW. But if you take everything (and yourself) too seriously, you'll make your experience on TK less enjoyable. If what SB posters say bothers you that much, stay off that board. Also, lurking first will give you a better feel for the boards. SB may not have been the best board for you to jump right in on.

jenningz

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[QUOTE]Sugar, you overreacted and pretty much set yourself up for getting flamed. Maybe you need to just let this one go. The SB women are funny, witty, often sarcastic, and thoroughly enjoyable. I also really enjoy many of the ladies here on CW. But if you take everything (and yourself) too seriously, you'll make your experience on TK less enjoyable. If what SB posters say bothers you that much, stay off that board. Also, lurking first will give you a better feel for the boards. SB may not have been the best board for you to jump right in on.
Posted by azdancer8[/QUOTE]

word.

musicalsunlight

Very well said, AZ. I don't think all the responses were necessarily lovely from anyone, probably myself included. But bringing this to an OB craptalking is pretty immature.

jenningz

...and that was a perfect example of why the general public make negative assumptions about Christians.

SugarFoote

Yeah, ok.

musicalsunlight

I agree Jenningz. I don't claim to say the nicest or most virtuous things on here, or anywhere for that matter. But I also don't dangle my religion as a superiority over others as I mock them or insult them.

SugarFoote

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[QUOTE]I agree Jenningz. I don't claim to say the nicest or most virtuous things on here, or anywhere for that matter. But I also don't dangle my religion as a superiority over others as I mock them or insult them.
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]

I was the one mocked and insulted.

musicalsunlight

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wow...I guess I have been mistaken all these years! : I was the one mocked and insulted.
Posted by SugarFoote[/QUOTE]

Nah I think it went both ways. You insinuated that people who have slept with more than one partner are sluts/whores. You also mocked them with your "I'll pray for you" tongue in cheek responses. They said plenty too, to be sure. But it wasn't one sided.

SugarFoote

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wow...I guess I have been mistaken all these years! : <strong>Nah I think it went both ways. You insinuated that people who have slept with more than one partner are sluts/whores.</strong> You also mocked them with your "I'll pray for you" tongue in cheek responses. They said plenty too, to be sure. But it wasn't one sided.
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]

Thats bull. I clarified my statement. You and others just didn't except it even though it was made over and over. If I would've been calling anyone a name, I would not have clarified. So no I did not insult anyone. They insulted themselves by taking it that way.

And I was also serious about praying.

BMcLeodTeam

I have to agree with PPs, I think you took it too personally and maybe SB isn't the right board for you. I love the ladies on here, but am also very active on other boards. Every board has its own chemistry, and not everyone fits in with every board....

musicalsunlight

I really had nothing to do with the discussion about the whore thing so accepting it or not is irrelevant. But I think the reason they didn't accept your explanation is because there is a common theme on TK of "backpedaling" when people get into a jam.


Also, I think your statements about gay people were insulting to people as well, so it wasn't just the whore thing.

The "I will pray for you thing" does NOT go over well in situations like this. I am surprised you honestly don't realize that. It comes off as condescending and faux sympathetic, especially on the internet.

ETA: And using "Christians sin too sweeheart" was clearly condescending and a terrible excuse for what was being said.

sessionswedding

Man, we never have drama on the CW board, now it's twice in two days!  *head explodes*  Lol.

SugarFoote

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[QUOTE]I really had nothing to do with the discussion about the whore thing so accepting it or not is irrelevant. But I think the reason they didn't accept your explanation is because there is a common theme on TK of "backpedaling" when people get into a jam. Also, I think your statements about gay people were insulting to people as well, so it wasn't just the whore thing. The "I will pray for you thing" does NOT go over well in situations like this. I am surprised you honestly don't realize that. It comes off as condescending and faux sympathetic, especially on the internet. ETA: And using "Christians sin too sweeheart" was clearly condescending and a terrible excuse for what was being said.
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]

Oh but holding a persons religion over there head with a "Well that was very Christainly of you." is ok?

I don't backpedal. If I say it I mean it. If I correct it, obviously I didn't mean it the way it sounded/was taken.

The gay comment is the biggest bull I've ever heard. Using that thread is bull as well. I said that gay people are abominations in the eyes of God, yet it turned into "you said gay people are abominations" If people would learn to read and not exgerate and twist crap, it would have been very clear that I didn't say it. I said GOD. Not CRYSTAL SAYS.

musicalsunlight

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wow...I guess I have been mistaken all these years! : Oh but holding a persons religion over there head with a "Well that was very Christainly of you." is ok? I don't backpedal. If I say it I mean it. If I correct it, obviously I didn't mean it the way it sounded/was taken. The gay comment is the biggest bull I've ever heard. Using that thread is bull as well. I said that gay people are abominations in the eyes of God, yet it turned into "you said gay people are abominations" If people would learn to read and not exgerate and twist crap, it would have been very clear that I didn't say it. I said GOD. Not CRYSTAL SAYS.
Posted by SugarFoote[/QUOTE]


Dude. I didn't say that their insults back were any cleaner or better, so no I didn't mean that.

I think people can be offended by your gay comments regardless of the "abomination" one. There were plenty others. I think the reason they didn't address what other people said in that thread is because those people weren't currently the ones they were debating with. Also many people find the "I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends" thing to be completely insulting and offensive. Even if they aren't gay themselves.

GJones27

I didn't read the whole thread because I am at work, but I just wanted to say I am sorry this happened. People can be very cruel on the other boards, but I can also understand how they might feel. I never post in other boards for that reason. I think all of us have gotten burned at some point.

GJones27

I didn't read the whole thread because I am at work, but I just wanted to say I am sorry this happened. People can be very cruel on the other boards, but I can also understand how they might feel. I never post in other boards for that reason. I think all of us have gotten burned at some point.

SugarFoote

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wow...I guess I have been mistaken all these years! : Dude. I didn't say that their insults back were any cleaner or better, so no I didn't mean that. I think people can be offended by your gay comments regardless of the "abomination" one. There were plenty others. I think the reason they didn't address what other people said in that thread is because those people weren't currently the ones they were debating with. Also many people find the "I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends" thing to be completely insulting and offensive. Even if they aren't gay themselves.
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]

And I am completely not homophobic. I seriously have gay friends. I have nothing against them. While I don't support that lifestyle, I haven't said anything negative against them. My part in the "Gay Marriage" thread was saying that IMO they weren't born that way. That was it. I said they should have the right to get married (positive). I said that boycotting a store because of it's support of that lifestyle was wrong (positive). I don't get why she thinks I am bittchy. And even if she does, she can keep it to herself. I didn't say half of the things she is accusing me of. I never called my cousin a slut. I never said the Coke mane  "found it hard to resist my body". I said he flirted and it made me feel guilty because he wouldn't let me buy my coke.

ETA: I do not think the world revolves around me. She is the one making it revolve around me with her comments. She is the one that took the crap to SB.

SugarFoote

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[QUOTE]Do your gay 'friends' support your heterosexual lifestyle? Then they are certainly better friends than you. You can not be friends with someone and think that they are 'abominations in the eyes of God.' That's crap. Being a friend is accepting who they are completely. Especially since there is nothing wrong with being gay. Also, the word 'abomonination' linguistically meant "wierd" or "something Jews do not do." And yeah, at the time that was written, it was wierd to 'man to lie with man' because people were still concerned about the survival of the human race. I think we are good with that now.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]

They know where I stand on it. They don't agree with a lot things I do. There was a time when I wanted to drink. They didn't support that. They didn't support me getting a belly button peircing either. FI and I have been out to eat several times with one of them and their partner. The issue was never brought up. We actually never bring the issue up. I'm straight and he is gay. So what. I'm a Christian and he is not. So what.

Ash61612

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[QUOTE]Man, we never have drama on the CW board, now it's twice in two days!  *head explodes*  Lol.
Posted by sessionswedding[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing!! man oh man

mattycam

I certainly don't believe in keeping one's belief quiet and conforming to to the world's thinking  for the sake of everyone liking you but sometimes it's how a person says things that can cause backlash. And then there are also times when one should know when to speak and when to be silent.

Snippylynn

I can unequivocally say that people like Sugar are the reason i gave up on attending church of any denomination.  People who claim Christianity like it's a badge of honor, but spend their whole time making that badge tarnished with their misappropriation of the Bible. Hypocrisy and un-Christian thoughts and actions while behaving in a way that makes God sad. 

I'd be willing to bet anything that your gay friend would be horrified to learn your thoughts about his lifestyle. Sugar seems to forget that she is not the judge or the jury. Completely disgusting.

joe&cassie

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[QUOTE]I certainly don't believe in keeping one's belief quiet and conforming to to the world's thinking  for the sake of everyone liking you but sometimes it's how a person says things that can cause backlash. And then there are also times when one should know when to speak and when to be silent.
Posted by mattycam[/QUOTE]

Wise words.  I like how you think.

FaithCaitlin

Mattycam hit the nail on the head... 

ochemjenn

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[QUOTE]Do your gay 'friends' support your heterosexual lifestyle? Then they are certainly better friends than you. You can not be friends with someone and think that they are 'abominations in the eyes of God.' That's crap. Being a friend is accepting who they are completely. Especially since there is nothing wrong with being gay. <strong>Also, the word 'abomonination' linguistically meant "wierd" or "something Jews do not do."</strong> And yeah, at the time that was written, it was wierd to 'man to lie with man' because people were still concerned about the survival of the human race. I think we are good with that now.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]

I had no idea that was the original meaning of the word.  Building on that: Something that is "weird" isn't necessarily something that should not be done by anyone, but many people won't do it.  I think it's weird that people put mustard of hot dogs and won't do it myself, but I'm not going to tell other people not to.

SugarFoote, I think it is important to take the historical context into consideration.  When the Bible was writen, people didn't know about genes.  However, that did know man + man =/= baby.  I don't know about Jerusalem, but in ancient Greece it was common for adult men to have sexual relationships with boys.  Could have been intended to tell men not to take advantage of boys. 

Ash61612

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[QUOTE]Mattycam hit the nail on the head... 
Posted by FaithCaitlin[/QUOTE]

<div>yep</div>

BMcLeodTeam

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[QUOTE]I certainly don't believe in keeping one's belief quiet and conforming to to the world's thinking  for the sake of everyone liking you but sometimes it's how a person says things that can cause backlash. And then there are also times when one should know when to speak and when to be silent.
Posted by mattycam[/QUOTE]

Wise words!