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Help me out, ladies.

Why is this irking me so much?

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/51533521.aspx

I have a few reasons why it's mildly irritating, but I feel like I'm getting annoyed out of proportion to those reasons.  And yes, I pooped today (thrice).
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Re: Help me out, ladies.

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    edited December 2011
    I've never heard of cutting down on your impact.

    Why did I think this was something sexual at first?
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    **O-Face****O-Face** member
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    edited December 2011
    People want validation and back patting, just do it because it makes you feel better, don't do it so people KNOW about it.  Too AW-y.
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    Butter CookieButter Cookie member
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    edited December 2011
    Maybe it's the pretentious tone? Maybe it's the lady who has never heard of a non-gas mower, or the lady who thinks it's okay to go around with volcano hair, smelling like pickles.
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    baconsmombaconsmom member
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    1. The assumption that anything we do makes a difference.
    2. The assumption that everyone can *afford* to do these "green" things.
    3. The assumption that we *should* be doing these things, as if it's virtuous.
    4. The assumption that these sorts of things are the best - nay, the only acceptable way to steward the earth.
    5. The assumption that we all agree with her.
    6. The conflation of "organic" with "best" or "good for everyone".

    And I'm only through like 2 posts. 
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    **O-Face****O-Face** member
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    edited December 2011
    freeegans!
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    *Barbie**Barbie* member
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    edited December 2011
    because it reminds you of the "Smug Alert" episode of South Park?




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    hmonkeyhmonkey member
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    ReturnOfKuusReturnOfKuus member
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    edited December 2011
    Barbie, I shall be stealing that.
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    baconsmombaconsmom member
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    edited December 2011
    7. The assumption that it's the government's job to make us recycle! That's gotta be a huge one for you ("We have awesome recycling in Seattle!"). 
    8. Permanent toothbrushes?!?!?! 

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    AuntFloAuntFlo member
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    edited December 2011
    Cutting down on meat consumption helps so called "climate change"?

    This is irking you because, first of all this climate change stuff is BS, right?
    Second, they're all so smug about it.  Reminds me of the South Park episode about the hybrid cars.   (Although, if I could afford one I would get one).  (ETA:  Damn!   Barbie beat me to it.)
    Third, cloth diaperers and composters are just plain annoying. 
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    *Barbie**Barbie* member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_out-ladies?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:a534c201-e21f-4837-b51f-d7a8d8c0f797Post:d902544a-fde3-473d-8224-c613ed1bf265">Re: Help me out, ladies.</a>:
    [QUOTE]Cutting down on meat consumption helps so called "climate change"? This is irking you because, first of all this climate change stuff is BS, right? Second, they're all so smug about it.  Reminds me of the South Park episode about the hybrid cars.   (Although, if I could afford one I would get one). Third, cloth diaperers and<strong> composters are just plain annoying</strong>. 
    Posted by AuntFlo[/QUOTE]

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    i have compost bins, but only so i can get free, quality soil for my garden. ('m also not bragging about it on the interwebz)
     
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    baconsmombaconsmom member
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    edited December 2011
    Wait, can you bring your own containers to a restaurant? I'm fairly certain that's a health code violation in many, many cities. Not to mention it opens the restaurants up to lawsuits - what if your container is contaminated? Not only might you get sick and sue the restaurant, but you might spread germs in the kitchen or pass-out and get other people sick, who will then sue. 

    In a world where restaurants can't donate extra food at the end of the night because of lawsuit worries, I can't imagine they'll just take your Tupperware without a qualm. 
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    **O-Face****O-Face** member
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    Oy vey. Don't get me started about "green" projects.  Yes, please send me GIANT printed packages, so that i may copy said packages and proposal/plans that are for "green" projects.  That makes SOOO much sense.  *scoff*

    Permanent toothbrushes?  Are they using sticks?
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    hmonkeyhmonkey member
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    i do a lot of green things, but it is primarily out of cheapness and from learning from my parents who just didn't have a lot of options because they grew up post-war.
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    ReturnOfKuusReturnOfKuus member
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    AuntFloAuntFlo member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_out-ladies?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:a534c201-e21f-4837-b51f-d7a8d8c0f797Post:e52e986a-593d-45f6-a649-09c9f75e510a">Re: Help me out, ladies.</a>:
    [QUOTE]i<strong> do a lot of green things, but it is primarily out of cheapness</strong> and from learning from my parents who just didn't have a lot of options because they grew up post-war.
    Posted by hmonkey[/QUOTE]

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    baconsmombaconsmom member
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    Kuus, now I'm just picturing a bunch of brightly-colored eggs in their death throes, begging for release from the pain. 

    (Because it's "dyeing", folks.) 
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    dharmabunnydharmabunny member
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    edited December 2011
    Smugness.

    My green annoyances:

    Earth Day festivals.  By far and away generates the most disposable, cheapass swag I've ever, ever, seen.  Plastic cups, crappy plastic water bottles, little twigs to plant wrapped in plastic, disposable pens (what happened to buying refills), and endless, endless, endless paper flyers

    Doing everything "green" and going electronic at work. Then the cost to print out on single-side printer paper skyrockets.

    Then there's the whole cloth diaper, buy EVERYTHING local and organic foods ridiculousness.

    And those plastic bags are our kitty litter bags.  Unless we go green and leave the treasures in the house.  Then the entire house smells like a catbox.

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    zsazsa-stlzsazsa-stl member
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    I understand reacting to the smug thing.  I hate it when people argue that since they recycle they are "doing their part" and then leave it at that.  Recylcing your bottled water bottle doesn't replace all of the energy it took to ship your bottle all the way from Fiji.

    But I also hate it when people refuse to recycle/conserve energy because it is something they associate with dang-nabit liberals or some such nonsense.  You don't have to be a liberal to care about the environment. 

    I don't care if you think climate change is BS.  But you don't care if we have garbage filling our rivers and streams?  You don't care if we live in a cloud of smog?  Really?  Even if you don't think the polar caps are melting, I don't understand why you think it is cool to dump and pollute without regulation. 

    And many "green" things don't cost a thing.  Some even save money.  Many stores give you a few pennies off of your bill for using your own bags.  And those big canvas bags are sooo much easier to carry.  They hold more and you can swing them over your shoulder unlike little plastic bags that cut through your fingers. 
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    AuntFloAuntFlo member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_out-ladies?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:a534c201-e21f-4837-b51f-d7a8d8c0f797Post:a5d6b00c-cc8c-4b49-9364-a32ca729ca61">Re: Help me out, ladies.</a>:
    [QUOTE]I don't care if you think climate change is BS.  But you don't care if we have garbage filling our rivers and streams?  You don't care if we live in a cloud of smog?  Really?  Even if you don't think the polar caps are melting, I don't understand why you think it is cool to dump and pollute without regulation.  Posted by zsazsa-stl[/QUOTE]

    I DO care if we have garbage filling our rivers, smog, etc, and I DON'T think it's cool to dump and pollute.   Not sure where you got that idea.    We don't dump our dirty, disposable diapers in the river, zsa.   Eating organic or eating vegan  doesn't change any of that, either.   
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    matuofmmatuofm member
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    Why is it irking you?  If I had to guess, I'd say it's the fact that she posits it like some sort of question/request for advice, but it's really just a cover for bragging about how virtuous she is and letting others do the same.
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    **O-Face****O-Face** member
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    edited December 2011
    Same here hmo, I use re-usable bags because I hate having them just multiplying around my house.  And because I save $.05 per bag at the store. Yes, 5 cents is a lot.
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    zsazsa-stlzsazsa-stl member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_out-ladies?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:a534c201-e21f-4837-b51f-d7a8d8c0f797Post:bf63d1e6-2d1f-427b-9979-3223452f0f7e">Re: Help me out, ladies.</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Help me out, ladies. : I DO care if we have garbage filling our rivers, smog, etc, and I DON'T think it's cool to dump and pollute.   Not sure where you got that idea.    We don't dump our dirty, disposable diapers in the river, zsa.   Eating organic or eating vegan  doesn't change any of that, either.   
    Posted by AuntFlo[/QUOTE]

    I wasn't responding specifically to you, AF. 

    But even though YOU don't dump that stuff in the river, the quanitity of it in our collective lifestyles results in a lot of it ending up in inappropriate places.

    Eating organic increaseses market demand for products produced without chemicals that we don't want.  Hopefully the increased demand will eventually increase competition and lower prices for all of us.  But I understand that it isn't for everyone.  I'm certainly not buying everything organic.
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    GBCKGBCK member
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    I like my cloth diapers...but I also *gasp* don't recycle; becuase it's ecologically irresponsible to drive as far as I'd have to get it to do it (and paying to do it irks me)

    I'll join the earth-day celebration hate--and only in part because I work the event every year and the people are twits.
    And because they do another thing here and they insist on filing super-compostable-cups w/ tap water--which I support unless I have 45 minutes to serve (health code, I can't let them serve themselves) lunch to 250 middle schoolers.

    Back to your regularly scheduled ranting now.
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    zsazsa-stlzsazsa-stl member
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    In general, I feel like a lot of people make this a political issue when it isn't.  Why does the Republican party feel that they have to discredit climate change?  Why can't conservatives also be conservative with resources?  When I was a kid my parents were devout Republicans but also cared about environmental issues because it was "taking care of God's earth" and also just because it was considered downright foolish and wasteful to buy disposable things when you could reuse what you already had. But now it seems that a lot of conservatives hate any kind of conservation (irony anyone?) efforts because it is a liberal thing.  I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but it is a trend.

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    **O-Face****O-Face** member
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    I think it's the whole beaucracy and getting in the way of capitalism that is associated with being conservative with resources that republicans get upset with. 
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    *Barbie**Barbie* member
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    zsa, did you ever see the "tale of 2 houses"?

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

    i realize this is just 2 of a whole boatload of politicians, but enjoy for irony purposes.
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    zsazsa-stlzsazsa-stl member
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    Barbie - Ha! I have heard that Al Gore's house is a crazy energy consumer.  I guess he was too busy inventing the internet and seducing massage therapists to take care of that little problem.
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    *Barbie**Barbie* member
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    not to mention hunting for ManBearPig
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    ReturnOfKuusReturnOfKuus member
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    It's mostly the smugness, but some of it is the extremes.  Sure, it's a great idea not to accumulate garbage, because environmental issues aside, where are we going to put it all?  But looking for ways to make dyeing Easter eggs green (not the color)?  Come on.
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