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Another wedding invitation wording question... sorry :)

I'm glad that all of you know a lot more about the wording stuff than I do... I have a quick question! 

As many previous posters, I also want to mention both the Nuptial Mass and Sacrament of Holy Matrimony in my invitation wording (as well as both of our sets of parents)... this may be splitting hairs, but is it accurate to say that the Nuptial Mass "is uniting our children" when technically we will be conferring the sacrament of Holy Matrimony upon one another (not the Mass)?  I know that the parts of the sacrament are integrated into the Nuptial Mass as a whole so I'm not sure how I should be definining them.  I'm referring to clearheaven's suggested wording that I pasted below (very very beautiful, helpful and informative planning bio, btw!!)...  TIA!  I think this is very close to what I'd like to use also.

Mr. & Mrs. [bride's parents]
&Mr. & Mrs. [groom's parents]request the honor of your presenceat the Nuptial Mass uniting their children[bride]&[groom]in the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony[date & time][church]

Re: Another wedding invitation wording question... sorry :)

  • Calypso1977Calypso1977 member
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    edited December 2011
    this is kind of my pet cause on here.

    the mass does NOT unite you.  the mass is said in your honor, and you and your groom receive the extra blessings and graces of the mass.

    i would do:

    Mr. and Mrs. Brides Parents
    and
    Mr. and Mrs. Grooms Parents

    request the honor of your presence at the marriage of their children

    Bride
    Groom

    in the sacrment of holy matrimony and the celebration of the nuptial mass

    Date, time, place
  • clearheavensclearheavens member
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    edited December 2011
    Thank you for your compliments!  I'm very happy to be helpful.  Like you, I also wanted to add both sets of parents (we're not orphans!) and I wanted to denote the two sacraments that will be celebrated that day.  So I know how you feel as you're deciding.

    This one is more common:

    Mr. & Mrs. [bride's parents]
    &
    Mr. & Mrs. [groom's parents]
    request the honor of your presence
    at the Nuptial Mass uniting their children
    [bride]
    &
    [groom]
    in the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony
    [date & time]
    [church]

    This one is more accurate:

    Together with their families
    [bride]
    &
    [groom]
    request the honor of your presence
    at their marriage in the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony
    and the celebration of the Nuptial Mass
    [date & time]
    [church]
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  • edited December 2011
    what would be a good version minus the mass?  I am about ready to start printing mine off, and we are not having the full mass (i'm not catholic, so I can't, nor can most of my side, take the communion.)

    Thanks for you help!
  • mica178mica178 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_another-wedding-invitation-wording-question-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:615Discussion:fe854337-d1fe-4a10-a84b-1261a42096dbPost:972e1198-6046-4b39-9f0e-ff2fe240fef9">Re: Another wedding invitation wording question... sorry :)</a>:
    [QUOTE]what would be a good version minus the mass?  I am about ready to start printing mine off, and we are not having the full mass (i'm not catholic, so I can't, nor can most of my side, take the communion.) Thanks for you help!
    Posted by FutureMrsN11[/QUOTE]

    Just omit the line about the Nuptial Mass.  As long as you are baptized and the wedding is taking place in a Catholic church, the line about it being the Sacrament of Marriage still applies.  Also, make sure that there is an "AND" rather than a "TO" between your and your FI's names.
  • edited December 2011
    I am baptisted as a nondemontional member...not cathlic...so idk if that makes a difference in the wording or not.  The priest already told me that in that chruchs eyes my baptisim doesn't exist (not real).

    Thanks!
  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_another-wedding-invitation-wording-question-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:fe854337-d1fe-4a10-a84b-1261a42096dbPost:eff15d05-975e-4dd6-9d92-085a94f50f98">Re: Another wedding invitation wording question... sorry :)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I am baptisted as a nondemontional member...not cathlic...so idk if that makes a difference in the wording or not.  The priest already told me that in that chruchs eyes my baptisim doesn't exist (not real). Thanks!
    Posted by FutureMrsN11[/QUOTE]

    The Catholic church believes in one baptism, she recognizes all baptisms (including non-Catholics) if done in the correct formula.Some "baptisms" in some denominations do not happen with the correct formula.

    If this has been disucssed and researched with the priest, and he said your baptism wasn't valid, then it will not be a sacrament, as both of the couple have to be baptized for it to be considered a sacrament.

    However, if this was just a quick conversation you had, I suggest you talk to the priest further about it. This is more serious than just effecting your invitations.
  • edited December 2011
    We got a dispenstation...I believe that cleared that up so he could get the Sarcrament...I just wrote the priest to find out and sent him the Invite layout minus the nupital mass part to see what he had to say.
    Thanks
  • mica178mica178 member
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    edited December 2011
    Definitely see what the priest has to say before sending the invitation to the printer.  There are a lot of dispensations.  There's a dispensation for a Catholic to marry a baptized Christian, where the marriage is a sacrament.  There's a dispensation for a Catholic to marry a non-baptized person, where the marriage is valid but not a sacrament.  If your priest indicated that your baptism is not conisdered "real" in the eyes of the Catholic church, your dispensation allows your FI to be married in the church, but not as a sacrament.
  • edited December 2011
    I spoke with the priest, and with the dispenstation we got, we are good.  It's a Sacrament :)
  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_another-wedding-invitation-wording-question-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:fe854337-d1fe-4a10-a84b-1261a42096dbPost:1c8b848e-cf62-4d6c-9a20-ee9fbbce925b">Re: Another wedding invitation wording question... sorry :)</a>:
    [QUOTE]We got a dispenstation...I believe that cleared that up so he could get the Sarcrament...I just wrote the priest to find out and sent him the Invite layout minus the nupital mass part to see what he had to say. Thanks
    Posted by FutureMrsN11[/QUOTE]


    I see that you already worked it out, but I wanted to clarify, even if you weren't baptized, you could get married validly in the church...it would be a valid natural marriage, it just wouldn't be a sacrament.
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