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Advice please- guest list drama (long)!

When we started our guest list, we limited it to 125-130.  My dad was gracious and offered to pay for the reception, but we still want to keep the number reasonable.  Because both sides of my family are massive, we had to limit the number of friends invited, which was disappointing to us, but you gotta do what you gotta do.  We also made the rule of no children unless you are in the bridal party or directly related to someone in the bridal party (which is 7 kids total, we are ok with that), and the rule that unless you are married, engaged, or living together, you can't bring a guest. 

Well, my cousin M (mom's brother's son) has been dating this girl K for almost two years; K also is friends with my sister.  I don't know her at all, and have met her only once.  My aunt got really upset when our mutual cousin did the same rule at his wedding last Sept and didn't allow M to bring K.  She thought it was inappropriate since they had been together for so long, and made it known to everyone.  She wanted K to be invited to ours, and was going about it backhandedly.  We stuck to the rules we made and told not only my aunt, but my sister as well- both of whom had already promised K that she would be invited to my wedding.  It's not like M won't know anyone at the wedding; just like at our mutual cousin's wedding, he will know a good bit of people attending, most our age.

The family got into a big spat about it at Easter dinner, when FI finally stepped up (he doesn't like fights/confrontation) and told everyone that this was the rule that we decided on, and we were sticking to it, it was a mutual decision both him and I had made.  M's brother, T, stood up and said the same thing; this girl is dating the bride's cousin, isn't related to me or knows me, and shouldn't expect an invitation.  Both my sister and aunt stormed off and were pissy the rest of the day.

It came up again this weekend, when my sister, M, and K graduated from UD.  She came along to dinner, and of course the wedding came up as a topic.  My aunt got all pissy about it again, making comments, not talking to me or FI, etc.

Now, my mom is pressuring us to include K on the guest list; she is so nice, M is family and dating her (while some of my friends who have significant others can't bring them bc they aren't family, is her thing), my sister is good friends with her, blah blah blah.  FI and I left my mom's the other day, FI fuming and me in tears because of this.

NEITHER I NOR FI KNOW THIS GIRL!  We have other friends that we would want there before I start inviting ppl that I don't know.  Also, FI's cousin has been in a serious relationship for 4 years, and they know, respect, and understand that she can't bring him; they aren't making a fuss. Finally, T (M's brother/my other cousin) is dating this girl, L, for the umpteenth time, and it's an unhealthy relationship.  If I allow M to bring K, I have to allow T to bring L, and then others will want dates, etc.  Not only that, but I am not responsible for promises of invitations made by others; that's their deal, not mine.

I need some advice on what to do!  Do I give in, and allow K to come, just to get everyone off my back?  Do I wait and see if I have room, and put her on the last minute list (C list)?  Do I (and FI, for that matter) stand our ground and go with our decision?  I want to stand our ground; I figure I would rather have M/my aunt mad at me over one guest not allowed to come, then have several other close friends and family P.O.ed at me because I made this exception and didn't allow their date.

Sigh, I am so tired of the fighting; it seems at every turn, my wedding, which should be happy and joyous and a celebration, has caused nothing but drama on both my mom's side and my dad's side.  I wish everyone for once would just look at me and say what my dad did- that they want us to be happy, and whatever we want is what matters because this is a celebration of us.  So far, my dad is the only one who has said that to us (which is the last person you would expect!).  I am fed up with it all.  Thoughts please?  HELP!

Re: Advice please- guest list drama (long)!

  • kkidd28kkidd28 member
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    edited December 2011
         Sounds like the same thing that had me at Christiana last night doing some expensive retail therapy.  I have mixed feeling on this.  At least you have met her a few times - at family events, so you are getting to know her ( I think).  The people my in laws want to invite I have NEVER met and probably will never see again.  I also see your point of wanting to stand your ground and not be badgered into adding folks on your guest list.  If they had approached you differently instead of getting mad publicly you probably wouldn't feel this way.  And I would let them know that!

         I would sit down with your mother, aunt, cousin, and sister and let them know that this is your wedding and you would like to know the people who are going to be apart of your day.  As you and your FI are not paying for it, you want to be responsible and will take their request into consideration.  If you get some regrets, and you are able to add her, you will.  In the meantime, their rude treatment of you is not helping the situation, nor is it making you want to add her or get to know her to have her at the wedding.

        Maybe if they stop to think how uncomfortable they are making this situation they will stop acting this way?

    HTH!
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  • edited December 2011
    I think that it's not really fair to punish people who are in serious relationships, but don't live together for whatever reason, by not inviting them with their significant other.  They must have their reasons for not living together, be it financial or religious or whatever, so I think you should respect that and their relationship and invite them.
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  • edited December 2011
    Oh Brit!  what you need to do is forget all this and come with me to see SATC 2. :)
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  • Mattsbride10Mattsbride10 member
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    edited December 2011
    Wow what a tough situation to be in...sorry you're dealing with this.
     First off How many ppl are on your guest list and how many NOs are you expecting? IMO If there is only like six S/Os and if its at all possible to make room for them I would just invite them to save yourself the heartache. I know thats bending the rules but chances are it will all come together with all the NO responses you may recieve anyways. And if thats not possible K sounds pretty close to the family so I'd make her the one exception. I didn't want the drama so all my cousins/friends are getting invited with their S/O as long as they have one and if they are single then NO guest. Also you should try to put yourself in their shoes...I know when I was in any long term relationship I wouldn't have wanted to leave my S/O at home especially when going to a wedding.
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  • dibsontopdibsontop member
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    edited December 2011
    Personally, I don't think it's fair to not invite someone that's in a two year relationship, just because they don't live together or aren't engaged.

    HOWEVER, it is your wedding, and this is the rule you've decided upon.  While it's easy for me to say, give in and invite her, you then run the risk of another person coming forward in the same situation, and then another person, and another person, etc.  This is why you've created rules to begin with and you should stick to it if you really can't afford to increase the guest list.

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  • wicked_faerywicked_faery member
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    edited December 2011
    closest i can get to this is my wedding is super small compared to yours. 30-40 ppl. i have been forced to add my sister's in-laws (which i loathe) to the list cause "they're family now" EVERYONE knows how much i hate them. the husband is a drunk & the wife is a brainless twit flake! my sister lives on their property w/ her husband & things have gotten to the point on numerous occasions where i have refused to go visit her for months on end, because of them.

    now chances are that the husband won't come anyways (they barely got him to go to their wedding, let alone the whole night) but the wife will go just because...

    & now my sister's is trying to talk me into using said woman for my officiant (yes she's ordained...why i don't know..) & with me not being on the "proper persuasion" i REALLY don't feel comfortable with that!
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  • edited December 2011
    Thanks for the advice, ladies.

    They aren't living together because they just graduated colllege, and aren't mature enough for that step- i'll be very blunt about it. There is no religious or financial reason for it. and if there is, than IMO, someone should bring that up privately with me, not because they all just want her there.
    I understand I shouldn't "punish" people who are in long-term relationships, but there are many other factors that play into this.  She isn't even from this area, and everyone has admitted that they don't know if this will last when she moves away. 
    Not only that, but there are many, many others in these same shoes being invited- including my FI's cousin, who I mentioned, yet his family isn't screaming for an invite.  We just don't have the capacity to invite everyone's SOs- not when there are others on the B list that really should be invited first but we have to think of family.  Unfortunately, we don't think we are going to get that many "no" replies; everyone we have talked to, save for 2 people, have said they are going to come; those two people will be replaced with others who are close to the family and I or FI actually know.
    Not only that, but the comment has been made the only reason he wants to bring his SO is so he can get drunk with her (they have that kind of relationship).  My wedding is NOT the place nor the time to get intoxicated, and to want your GF there just because you want a drinking buddy doesn't fly with me.
    I have met this girl once; she said hi to me and didn't say anything else to me the rest of the night.  She's never made an attempt to get to know me, and let's face it, my relationship with my cousin is minimal at best; if he weren't family, he probably wouldn't be invited. 
    For me, I also think that the factor of M hasn't said a word about this entire thing to me or anyone else plays into it.  It's not like he is saying outloud I want her there.  It's his mom and my sister.  Now, granted he could be saying something to them, but I think if this really that big of a deal to you, call me up and talk about it with me; don't have your mom go screaming to everyone else. 
    Kkid, I wish I could sit down with them and say what you suggested, I really do; unfortunately, my family doesn't work that way.  And you are right, if they had gone about this a different way, I probably would have felt very differently about the situation.

    I think for me it boils down to, we don't know her personally, we don't have the financial capacity to invite everyone and their SO, there are many others on the B list who I would love to have there and need to invite before I start inviting others, and there are many others in the same predicament and quite frankly, I don't want to end up in a fight with many others (including FI's family, which then makes it a huge mess for him on his side and that's not fair to them or him).  I also think that when someone sets a rule for a wedding, you should respect it, even if you don't agree with it- if you don't like it, do differently at your wedding.  But this is our wedding and we are going to make the choices here. 
    After talking it over with FI this morniing I think we are going to stand our ground on this one.  Thanks for the adivice!
  • edited December 2011
    I was in this same situation a year ago. My FI and I were only dating about a year when his cousin got married. I was not invited to the wedding because we weren't married or engaged. Having gone through the planning of several weddings (I was a bridesmaid and MOH for 4 weddings that year) I understood the expenses associated with the wedding and was not upset about it at all. It would have been fun to go, but I didn't know his cousin nor his bride. My FI went to the wedding with his family and I stayed behind. Him and his family were much more upset about me not being invited than I was and still complain about it especially since we now have this cousin and his wife on our guest list, but I really could care less. Weddings are expensive...

    We have the same rules in place for our guest list. Money is an issue and we want guests who are there to celebrate our day because they know us and love us and want to be a part of our day. I agree with your decision. It sucks that there has to be this drama, but it will pass (eventually).
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  • Mattsbride10Mattsbride10 member
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    edited December 2011
    After readin the second half of this...I just wanted to say that you should just do what ever is in your heart. End of story.
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  • edited December 2011
    It never ceases to amaze me how people get so "entitled" when it comes to weddings. IMO, it is an HONOR to be invited to someone's wedding. The stress of planning a wedding is high. The nerve of people to think that they can dictate the guest list of YOUR wedding. Hang in there.
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