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jesus murphy.

so.  yesterday we heard on the news about a little girl who had been raped by a 16 year old guy while other kids watched and videotaped on their cell phones.  adults saw this from a distance and didn't intervene.  it was a big deal.  everyone in calgary was horrified.

now it turns out she didn't fight it.  she had sex with him by choice.  in public after meeting online.  she was 12 years old.  i think that the boy should get some kind of statutory rape charge.  four years isn't a big age difference, but 16 and 12 seems decades apart.

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  • it doesnt really matter that she did it by choice, when he saw she was 12 he should have stepped away, if he knew already she was only 12 he should go to jail!
  • Oh jeez. I'm speechless.
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  • My immediate reaction was that when I was 12, having sex was the farthest thing from my mind. And there's no way I would have wanted to watch 2 real live people do it either. Where does a 12 year old get her hands on booze? Why does a 16 year old have any interest in sleeping with a 12 year old? I'm really glad the sex was consensual, and not rape, like they originally thought. It all skeeves me out.
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  • ugh, the whole thing makes me nauseas.  i can't believe what society has come to.
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  • I just can't believe people stood by and watched.  I read in one article that a woman watched from her living room window.  For 12 minutes.  TWELEVE. 

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  • I can't read the article.  I can't.  I really, literally, just don't wanna know about this stuff.  I can't comprehend it.
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  • Twelve-year-olds having sex freak me out.

    Sixteen is still way young to be having sex, but it's a hell of a lot older than twelve. 


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  • That is sickening.

    The 16 year old needs to be punished and the 12 year old.. wow.. I hope her parents are equipped to handle that.
  • this quote from the artciel is so unfortunately accurate:
    There’s an incredible appetite for new kinds of victims and new kinds of crimes

    So it doesn't shock me so much that the story was reportedly incorrectly from the beginning. But it sounds as though the boy is facing charges, as he should because neither of them are of age to give consent.

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  • I agree that is completely disgusting...  But, for the sake of discussion, if you charge him with statuatory rape, do you charge her too?  I mean, I am pretty sure that in Canada the age of consent is 14 so in this case it would be cut and dry that he gets charged and not her.  But what if she was 14, would you charge them both?
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  • LC, sex was the last thing from my mind at age 12, too. Hell, I didn't even have my first real kiss until I was 15.

    I still can't believe adults just watched. Especially a school administrator when it took place on school grounds. He should have intervened, regardless.
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  • I think they should both be punished.  For sure.  Her by her parents.  ANd he by the authorities.

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  • I am not sure.  I know they said on the news yesterday she was at the children's hospital "recovering" and he was in custody.  So, who knows what actions they'll take legally.

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  • Knowing that she gave consent, I don't find this any less horrifying.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_jesus-murphy?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:0d8e3ec6-29b5-4c69-8ebc-8e8e3c9075bePost:6ea2d48c-a1f2-4d69-b0a4-34e6ae3356bc">Re: jesus murphy.</a>:
    [QUOTE]if she was 14, then there would be no charges, no? at least in Canada if I'm reading that correctly. but if this was in the States then yes clearly they should both be charged since neither of them was of age to consent* *I am not a lawyer so I don't really know about this at all.
    Posted by vallyhoo[/QUOTE]
     Oh, I meant if this happened in the states where both were under the age of consent, not just one.  It was just a hypothetical question...
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  • Nothing will happen to the guy. He'll spend a few months in juvy or something.
    It makes me sick that 12 year olds have sex.
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  • What makes me sick is the thought that this probably wasn't her first time.
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    [QUOTE]Nothing will happen to the guy. He'll spend a few months in juvy or something. It makes me sick that 12 year olds have sex.
    Posted by pumpkinpumpkin[/QUOTE]

    <div>This^^.  But how do you stop them?  They are bombarded with sex from every direction so of course they are going to want in on the "action."</div>
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  • Oh yeah, for sure.  He'll get a slap on the wrist and go on his merry way.


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  • It's true that kids these days (good god, did I really just type that?) are overwhelmed with sexual situations everywhere they look. I am really surprised by tv shows in the last decade that are geared towards teens and show SO MUCH teen sex. I mean, it's not like when I was 12 I didn't watch tv shows or movies with sex in them, but they weren't necessarily geared towards my age group, yanno?

    At 12 the idea of having part of someone else's body put in part of my body skeeved the hell outta me. I think that's what kept me a virgin through high school, even if making out was super fun.
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  • He'll get charged because even if she consented (which is disgusting to me too) she cannot consent with anyone more than 2 years older than her. Weird laws up here in Canada. 12! YIKES!
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    [QUOTE]Yeah, he should have known better for sure.  4 years is a very big age difference when you are dealing with a pre-teen and a teenager.  It's actually very sad when you think about what her life might be like, for her to believe that this is ok. 
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  • disgusting

    that's the age of kids I teach.  Well, not this year. ;-)
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