Dr. question

klsuydan

how should I address the invitation when there is a Dr. involved?

Dr. & Mrs John and Jane Doe

or

Dr. John & Mrs Jane Doe

tenofcups4me

I would do:
Doctor and Mrs. John and Jane Doe

klsuydan

Ladies thank you so much for your help!!

garcias1

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[QUOTE]ditto aurianna, only medical doctors *technically* get Doctor - not Phds, not physical therapists, not optometrists, not dentists..etc..
Posted by TriSaratops10[/QUOTE]

I didn't know this, and I'm getting a Ph.D., lol.  I think I would still address it as Doctor to a Ph.D.  Most of the Ph.D.s I know would be upset if they got something addresses as Mr. or Mrs./Ms. instead of Doctor.

mica178

For PhDs and other non-medical doctors, you can write "Dr." rather than "Doctor."

megandken

Not related to OP but as to the general title situation, I know it doesn't fit with the haphazard etiquette rules of wedding invitations, but in the real world I believe you should address people as they would refer to themselves.  I think it's pretentious and rude to refer to oneself as Dr., be it medical or academic in any social situation, therefore I personally wouldn't use the title unless at work. 

Regarding PhD vs. M.D., envision this situation:  She has a PhD and he has an M.D., yet you only use his title on the invitation.  Would you like to incite that animosity?  Between them?  Between them and you?  Despite what Miss Manners says, you have just created an awkward situation good manners are supposed to help you avoid.  Plus, Jane Doe, PhD has a boatload of training in critical discourse so the Phd is going to win the doctor showdown every time. 

I personally would use common sense over etiquette in this case, but to each her own.

shortee426

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[QUOTE]Not related to OP but as to the general title situation, I know it doesn't fit with the haphazard etiquette rules of wedding invitations, but in the real world I believe you should address people as they would refer to themselves.  I think it's pretentious and rude to refer to oneself as Dr., be it medical or academic in any social situation, therefore I personally wouldn't use the title unless at work.  Regarding PhD vs. M.D., envision this situation:  She has a PhD and he has an M.D., yet you only use his title on the invitation.  Would you like to incite that animosity?  Between them?  Between them and you?  Despite what Miss Manners says, you have just created an awkward situation good manners are supposed to help you avoid.  Plus, Jane Doe, PhD has a boatload of training in critical discourse so the Phd is going to win the doctor showdown every time.  ;) I personally would use common sense over etiquette in this case, but to each her own.
Posted by megandken[/QUOTE]

<div>Squirrly wasn't saying to NOT address people as a Dr on the envelope.  The issue was addressing was whether to use the abbreviation Dr. or spell out the word Doctor.</div><div>
</div><div>As for the first part of your post, my brother recently received his Doctorate in Physical Therapy and has made it very well known to the family that he will only be referred to as "Doctor" in professional situations.  He wants to be called "Mister" in all social situations.</div>

mica178

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[QUOTE]Not related to OP but as to the general title situation, I know it doesn't fit with the haphazard etiquette rules of wedding invitations, but in the real world I believe you should address people as they would refer to themselves.  I think it's pretentious and rude to refer to oneself as Dr., be it medical or academic in any social situation, therefore I personally wouldn't use the title unless at work.  Regarding PhD vs. M.D., envision this situation:  She has a PhD and he has an M.D., yet you only use his title on the invitation.  Would you like to incite that animosity?  Between them?  Between them and you?  Despite what Miss Manners says, you have just created an awkward situation good manners are supposed to help you avoid.  Plus, Jane Doe, PhD has a boatload of training in critical discourse so the Phd is going to win the doctor showdown every time.  ;) I personally would use common sense over etiquette in this case, but to each her own.
Posted by megandken[/QUOTE]

<div>So I take it that you're working on your PhD?</div><div>
</div><div>Do you also think it's pretentious when military people use their titles?</div><div>
</div><div>I will concede that receiving a medical degree is easier than receiving most PhDs, but I will counter that the medical training following med school is as harder than any post-doc.  You might not be aware, but doctors cannot use the "MD" and should not refer to themselves socially as "doctor" until they are licensed, regardless of degree status.  Both are accomplishments, and etiquette is not taking away from that.  Take lawyers.  They have the right to be called Dr. as well, but pretty much none do.  Why are they not up in arms over this?</div><div>
</div><div>At both my RD and wedding, one of H's relatives syncopized.  When his wife called for a doctor, guess who ran to his side?  Not the PhD in Chinese anthropology or the JD or the dentist.</div><div>
</div><div>If you know how your guest would like to be addressed, I'd use that title.  Many of my PhD friends go by "Mr." or "Ms." socially.  But my SIL uses "Dr." even though she's a PhD.  That's fine.  But if you don't know their preference, I'd stick to the etiquette rules because it's hard to argue with them, and they generally avoid hard feelings. </div>

Calypso1977

Dr. and Mrs. John Doe

folks use other variations like Dr. and Mrs. John and Jane Doe, but its not technically correct from an etiquette perspective and it honestly looks sloppy and like the person doesnt know how to properly address an envelope.

while Mrs. Jane Doe and Dr. John Doe is correct, again, my first thought would be that's a mouthful and why didnt they just do Dr. and Mrs. John Doe?