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Holiday Momma Drama (sorry long)

I've been dating FI for almost 7 years.  His mother has graciously invited me to their holiday festivities for thanksgiving and Xmas all this time.  I was always thankful and it was sweet since she knew both my parents have crazy schedules (mom is a nurse and dad works for a 24/7 company and is on call often) and I would sometimes be alone since close family had moved away.

This year my aunts moved back to to the northeast and are trying to reinstill the holiday traditions we used to have.  FI and I were invited to Thanksgiving and Xmas in Jersey with my family and Hartford with his.

I thoughts splitting time with both families would be okay since they are 3hrs apart and there is no traffic on the day of holidays.  Well I thought wrong because FMIL flipped her lid!  She sat me down on Thanksgiving morning and bluntly told me she expects her sons in HER home on thanksgiving, xmas and easter every year.   I was dumbstruck.  She proceeded to tell me that she refused to share her sons with my family on those days (she said cousins and such are not important family!).  When we told her that is not realistic she ran out crying.  At this point FFIL says I can see my family tomorrow (after the holiday!) 

Now I am incensed.  I kindly tell him that is not an option for me and walk back to my room to mull over this mess.  I am in FMIL's home and it I dont want to ruin a holiday.  If I call my family up to ask them to pick me up or tell them I am not coming they will know I am upset and this will cause animosity between both families.  I am upset and end up crying until  FBIL and GF come in and cheer me up.  We still managed to make it to my family's dinner in Jersey thanks to FI's brother's help mediating. 

The problem now is that I am still upset with FMIL.  She knows she was out of line and made a half ass attempt to apologize when I told her I would not be attending xmas at her home this year (for seperate reasons).  Now that the holidays are over I want to resolve this dillema so we can avoid it next year. I realize she is afraid of "losing" her son but I am extremely hurt and angry by her comments. How do i broach this subject with her in a respectful way? 

UPDATE: 
Thanks for the advice ladies!  I sat FI down and discussed the whole situation with him. Turns out he had stepped out of the room to to answer the phone when his mom was making her more dramatic comments so therefore didnt realize WHY I was so upset.  He got the jist of it, but not the actual words until last night. He apologized for his bungling and his mom's blatent rudeness and tried to explain her specific brand of crazy to me (Some story about and epic family dysfunction etc etc). I guess it makes sense but it's still inexcusable. I will be getting an apology from her when I visit CT.

As for the Holiday situation we agreed on splitting it so one family gets thanksiving and the other gets Xmas.  I'm still of the mind that thanksgiving can be split but he hates the idea of driving and wants to veg and eat all day.  When we settle down with a house instead of out tiny apartment they can all treck up north, shut up and play nice at the table.

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Re: Holiday Momma Drama (sorry long)

  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_holiday-momma-drama-sorry-long-1?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:21c42fad-a96a-46ba-a564-e581f854e3baPost:94dd2fc1-16b3-4e18-b360-067fe74dc4bc">Holiday Momma Drama (sorry long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I've been dating FI for almost 7 years.  His mother has graciously invited me to their holiday festivities for thanksgiving and Xmas all this time.  I was always thankful and it was sweet since she knew both my parents have crazy schedules (mom is a nurse and dad works for a 24/7 company and is on call often) and I would sometimes be alone since close family had moved away. This year my aunts moved back to to the northeast and are trying to reinstill the holiday traditions we used to have.  FI and I were invited to Thanksgiving and Xmas in Jersey with my family and Hartford with his. I thoughts splitting time with both families would be okay since they are 3hrs apart and there is no traffic on the day of holidays.  Well I thought wrong because FMIL flipped her lid!  She sat me down on Thanksgiving morning and bluntly told me she expects her sons in HER home on thanksgiving, xmas and easter every year.   I was dumbstruck.  She proceeded to tell me that she refused to share her sons with my family on those days (she said cousins and such are not important family!).  When we told her that is not realistic she ran out crying.  At this point FFIL says I can see my family tomorrow (after the holiday!)  Now I am incensed.  I kindly tell him that is not an option for me and walk back to my room to mull over this mess.  I am in FMIL's home and it I dont want to ruin a holiday.  If I call my family up to ask them to pick me up or tell them I am not coming they will know I am upset and this will cause animosity between both families.  I am upset and end up crying until  FBIL and GF come in and cheer me up.  We still managed to make it to my family's dinner in Jersey thanks to FI's brother's help mediating.  The problem now is that I am still upset with FMIL.  She knows she was out of line and made a half ass attempt to apologize when I told her I would not be attending xmas at her home this year (for seperate reasons).  Now that the holidays are over I want to resolve this dillema so we can avoid it next year. I realize she is afraid of "losing" her son but I am extremely hurt and angry by her comments. How do i broach this subject with her in a respectful way? 
    Posted by tinstarsunshine[/QUOTE]

    What did your FI do?

    My husband would correct her & then we would leave immediately.

    If yours didn't help you/ tell his mom "no" and leave, then I wouldn't be mad at FMIL, but FI. Big old fight time with him, not her.

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  • Oh I had a long talk with him about it.  But he keeps defelcting the blame to my family back north.  He has never spent a full holiday with my family and is just as resistant as his mom in this case.  He thinks each of us going to visit our corresponding family without the other is acceptable after we are married.  I am NOT of that mindset, and all his "solutions" suck.
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    [QUOTE]Oh I had a long talk with him about it.  But he keeps defelcting the blame to my family back north.  He has never spent a full holiday with my family and is just as resistant as his mom in this case.  He thinks each of us going to visit our corresponding family without the other is acceptable after we are married.  I am NOT of that mindset, and all his "solutions" suck.
    Posted by tinstarsunshine[/QUOTE]

    Yeah....you have a FI problem.  Not a FMIL problem.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Momma Drama (sorry long) : Yeah....you have a FI problem.  Not a FMIL problem.
    Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

    Hate to toe the party line here but yeah. This is an issue with your FI. OF COURSE your FMIL is upset about not getting her way, your FI has clearly never said no to her before. You guys need to figure your stuff out, because that is just not acceptable.
  • I would be strongly reconsidering marriage if your FI thinks that it is acceptable to be apart on big holidays, especially as newlyweds.  It sounds like the issue is him, and not completely FMIL.  He needs to first understand that this is unacceptable and then resolve the issue with his mother and her expectations.
  • RamonaFlowersRamonaFlowers member
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    edited December 2011

    I have to agree that this is a FI problem, and it's something you really need to work out before you get married, because it's not something that's going to just go away eventually.

    Let's say for a second that you were actually okay with going your separate ways for the holidays, right now it's just the 2 of you, so it's not totally awful, but what happens when in a year or 2 (Or 7, or whatever) if you guys have kids? Does he expect that they will just go with him, because your family "doesn't count"?

    You guys need to come up with a way to split the time up that you both feel is "fair". The longer you go without coming up with a concrete solution, the harder it's going to be to come up with one. Now that the holidays are over, you need to sit down with your FI (Not his family) and work this out. Then you present a united front to the families about what you're going to do and that if anybody wants to throw a tantrum about it not getting enough time, they can get no time with you at all.


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  • Thanks for the advice ladies!  I'm going to sit down and talk with him tonight.  He mentioned something last night about talking with her already but it was late and he didn't elaborate.  I just thought this whole time I was the one who had to talk to her about this craziness.  Never considered it to be his job since I was basically the one she told off.  He's the first to admit his mom is spoiled but this is the first time I've seen her behave so rudely.  Thanks ladies and sorry about the duplicate posts!
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    [QUOTE]Thanks for the advice ladies!  I'm going to sit down and talk with him tonight.  He mentioned something last night about talking with her already but it was late and he didn't elaborate.  I just thought this whole time I was the one who had to talk to her about this craziness.  Never considered it to be his job since I was basically the one she told off.  He's the first to admit his mom is spoiled but this is the first time I've seen her behave so rudely.  Thanks ladies and sorry about the duplicate posts!
    Posted by tinstarsunshine[/QUOTE]

    He deals with his nutjob family, you deal with yours.

    Again, make sure you get this hammered out before the wedding because a ring won't change anything.
  • will do edielaura!  Thanks for sticking with me in all these duplicates!
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  • You could do a rotating schedule where one year one side of the family gets Thanksgiving and Easter and the other side gets Christmas and 4th of July and then the next year switch.
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    [QUOTE]Hopefully this ends where he sticks up for the two of you as a couple.  If he does persist with the idea that you go to your family's every year and he go to his, I would let him know that any future children will always be with you for the holidays.  <strong>After all, if that is good for his mother, it is good for his children.</strong> I'm really hoping this all works out but this is definitely an FI problem  Good luck.
    Posted by kmmssg[/QUOTE]

    <div>Excellent point.  If he has to be with his mommy, then his kids will have to be with their mommy.</div>
  • Hopefully this ends where he sticks up for the two of you as a couple.  If he does persist with the idea that you go to your family's every year and he go to his, I would let him know that any future children will always be with you for the holidays.  After all, if that is good for his mother, it is good for his children.

    I'm really hoping this all works out but this is definitely an FI problem  Good luck.
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