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never had a wedding... can we have one now?

My husband and I were married in 2003. We had already had a baby and my family was mortified by my being an unwed mother. My grandmother was helping us financially at the time (we had just turned 20 and didnt finish college) and said that she would cut us off if we didnt atleast get a marriage license. She said it would show we truly intended to get married. She gave us the money and we did it. 

Three days later, she called me and asked me to come to her house. She also called my husband. When we arrived, she told us we would go through with "it" or she was done with us. We had no idea she had already called the pastor. We were married right then in her living room. 

I cried.  Not our of extreme happiness or overwhelming love for the man I was marrying. (although I absolutely adore him) I wanted a wedding, the dress, guests, the church, etc. She said we didnt deserve it. We didn't have a honeymoon because there was "no point".

We had intended to have a wedding ceremony for our friends to attend after that. Financially, it was impossible and my family did not support the idea.

It's taken nearly 9 years, but I can do it with out them. I want the wedding, the whole thing. But everything I am reading about renewal etiquette basically says I can't. I don't want to seem rude. I'm just disappointed that I missed that day that I dreamed of since I was a little girl. 
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  • sparent2010sparent2010 member
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    edited January 2012
    Well that sucks. Sorry OP. You are already married, but what if on your 10 yr anniversary you have a vow renewal?

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  • Skip the pre-wedding parties and WP, some people think that it's weird to have a full on wedding gown(big poofy white dress)

    It sounds like you've been up front with everyone about being married so I really don't see an issue.

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    [QUOTE]Well that sucks. Sorry OP. You are already married, but what if on your 10 yr anniversary you have a vowel renewal?
    Posted by sparent2010[/QUOTE]
    Or a vow renewal. ;)


    OP, you had a wedding. It wasn't the one you wanted, though, which does suck. I agree with pps that you should plan to have a spectacular vow renewal. It can be classy, elegant and a lot of fun.
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  • If you are married, you had a wedding.  It may not have been the wedding of your dreams, but it was a wedding.  

    You could have a vow renewal, but it isn't a wedding.  
  • You can have a vow renewal. But I don't understand. How can someone "force" you to get married? Couldn't you have told her you will have something with a little more notice? Even if it was only going the JP/minister route with a nice dress and a few witnesses you wanted there?
  • I see nothing wrong with planning a vow renewal.  I would skip certain wedding elements (father down the aisle escort, wedding party, huge white ballgown, father/daughter, mother/son dances, tosses).  But a quick ceremony to renew your vows with guys in nice suits and you in a simpler white dress followed by yummy food and a good party?  Go for it.
  • What pastor would marry someone like that?
  • Haha Fated no I want to renew vowels not vows. I failed there so sleepy- OP vow renewl.  
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    [QUOTE]You can have a vow renewal. But I don't understand. How can someone "force" you to get married? Couldn't you have told her you will have something with a little more notice? Even if it was only going the JP/minister route with a nice dress and a few witnesses you wanted there?
    Posted by littleluckypenny[/QUOTE]
    When you have a child and this person is putting food on your table, then you do what you need to do. I don't question the OP's actions at all in this situation. 
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  • I'm sorry your family made you feel so pressured to get married...I would be livid and so upset if I were in your situation...HOWEVER you are already married so, unfortunately, you can't have another wedding because well...you're already married.  So you would just basically just be doing a re-do wedding just for the show and it comes across as very AWish and gift grabby.  I'm not saying you are...it's just that is what it would look like to your guests and quite frankly, if I were invited to one of those...I would probably not attend.  

    I agree with PP's, you can do a very nice vow renewal though!  Just skip all the typical wedding stuff, like BP, pre-wedding parties, etc, and be upfront to your guests that it is a vow renewal.  Don't try to pass it off as a wedding or make it look like a wedding and you'll be fine! :)  
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  • After 9 years, I don't think they could try to lie to their guests about it being a wedding even if they tried.

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    [QUOTE]I see nothing wrong with planning a vow renewal.  I would skip certain wedding elements (father down the aisle escort, wedding party, huge white ballgown, father/daughter, mother/son dances, tosses).  <strong>But a quick ceremony to renew your vows with guys in nice suits and you in a simpler white dress followed by yummy food and a good party?</strong>  Go for it.
    Posted by Joy2611[/QUOTE]


    I think this sounds lovely. OP, I'm sorry about the circumstances surrounding your first wedding. I know at the time it was what you had to do to support yourselves and your baby. I don't judge you for that at all. However, since you ARE married, a vow renewal is what's appropriate, and like Joy said, I think something simple but classy would be best.


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  • You obviously can't get married again - but vow renewal for sure.

    There was a lady doing a vow renewal on Four Weddings the other day - because they had to get married twenty five years ago - in her mother's livingroom. She never had her "big wedding".

    She had a white dress, she had a walk down the aisle. No wedding party - but everything else seemed "wedding-ish" to me.

    I say go for it. :o)
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  • You were adult enough to get knocked up, adult enough to decide to keep it, adult enough to get married. You were therefore also adult enough to say no. Now you're adult enough to deal with the consequences of your decisions. This is kind of ridiculous imo.
  • I too had circumstances that lead to a very uneventful wedding day for my first marriage.  I later regretted not doing anything, but like the others are saying - it's after the fact. I have known some people do to this and the etiquette police certainly aren't going to arrest them!  I think it would be hard to get people excited for it.

    I say opt for a lovely 10 year vow renewal.  Get a simple white dress, say some special vows to each other and have a big ol' party.
  • I agree with the idea of a 10 year anniversary vow renewal.  But keep it simple.  No wedding party, no poofy white dress (simple white dress is okay), no showers, no tosses) but there's nothing stopping you from renewing your vows in front of your family and loved ones and hosting a dinner party afterwards.

    And I also agree with Daff about owning the choices you have already made.  Doing a vow renewal needs to be about reaffirming the choices you've made, not about getting what you feel you've missed.  If you try to recapture being a bride with a vow renewal, you will look foolish, and if you have a simple but lovely vow renewal without accepting the choices you have made in the past you will still feel like you missed out on something.  Would you have traded the last 9 years of your life with your H and your child over a poofy white dress and some flowers?
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    [QUOTE]You were adult enough to get knocked up, adult enough to decide to keep it, adult enough to get married. You were therefore also adult enough to say no. Now you're adult enough to deal with the consequences of your decisions. This is kind of ridiculous imo.
    Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]

    <div>I've known of a 9-year-old who was "adult enough" to get knocked up, since all that requires is physical possibility.  She had a baby at 10.  There's a vast difference at 20, of course, but 20 is definitely still a kid, especially if she was being supported by her wench of a grandmother.  No way was it a real decision and of course she was forced.  Not everyone can say "no," even if from the outside the word looks available.</div>
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  • edited January 2012
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: never had a wedding... can we have one now? : I've known of a 9-year-old who was "adult enough" to get knocked up, since all that requires is physical possibility.  She had a baby at 10.  There's a vast difference at 20, of course, but 20 is definitely still a kid, especially if she was being supported by her wench of a grandmother.  No way was it a real decision and of course she was forced.  Not everyone can say "no," even if from the outside the word looks available.
    Posted by LD1970[/QUOTE]
    Uh, yeah, there is a vast difference at 20. 20 is an adult, not a kid. I'm not going to otherwise dignify your comparison.
  • You have been married for 9 years so obviously you did have a wedding. It may not have been what you dreamed, but that's life. 

    If you want to do a 10 year vow renewal, that is great, but don't try to bill it as a wedding. It just isn't, that boat has sailed.  Have an appropriate vow renewal celebration, stop dwelling on the past.  


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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_never-wedding-can-one-now?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:313f58be-3cc8-4ac6-b1f4-a74a09052b16Post:ee5fd27e-0c66-404f-bff9-b6d8094627e4">Re: never had a wedding... can we have one now?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: never had a wedding... can we have one now? : Uh, yeah, there is a vast difference at 20. 20 is an adult, not a kid. I'm not going to otherwise dignify your comparison.
    Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]
    Just pointing out that "ability to get knocked up" is a silly thing to use as proof of adulthood.<div>
    </div><div>Technically, legally, a 20-year-old is deemed an adult.  But not an adult legally permitted to drink, not deemed responsible enough to make that decision.  But responsible enough to stand up to an overbearing family that's financially supporting you?  Really?</div><div>
    </div><div>You can be 20, legally an adult, and still be trapped as a "kid" under your family's rules in your family's house.  Or at least legitimately feel that trapped.</div><div>
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  • No, a 20 year old is an adult. Unless she was raped, which is clearly not indicated here, it is an adult action. As is opting to keep it. As is getting married. Making a comparison to a 9 year old who is not capable of making those choices is ludicrous, and really pretty gross.
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    [QUOTE]No, a 20 year old is an adult. Unless she was raped, which is clearly not indicated here, it is an adult action. As is opting to keep it. As is getting married. Making a comparison to a 9 year old who is not capable of making those choices is ludicrous, and really pretty gross.
    Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]

    Team Daff. It's silly to think that a 20 year old had no say in her future.

    That said, I think a 10th anniversary party is fine, maybe with a nice cocktail dress and a few "vows." I'd feel silly re-doing my vows, but clearly this is something a lot of people like to do.
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  • personally - judging the choices she made 10 years ago is just disgusting. Some of you would do well to learn to keep SOME things to yourselves. YES its an adult choice, but thats not what her question was, it was simply backstory, so stop being so judgy.

    I do have to agree you cant have a wedding..that ship has sailed.
    Have a vow renewal, simpler dress, no WP, etc. But I see nothing wrong with having a ceremony to renew your vows - where you can cry beautiful happy tears, and a reception to follow, i see nothing wrong with cutting some cake and having a first dance with your Husband - if other people have an issue with that, well, they dont have to come.
    Like a PP said, this was just done on Four Weddings the other night, and I thought it was beautiful. :)
    Go for it!!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: never had a wedding... can we have one now? : Team Daff. It's silly to think that a 20 year old had no say in her future. 
    Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
    It really depends on the 20-year-old in question.
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    I'm on team Daff.

    My 20 year old brother knocked up his 19 year old GF.  Both of them were in college and on their parent's payroll. Her grandmother demaned a wedding. Her parents  encouraged a wedding.  BOTH of them said "not till we are ready".  They did eventually get married, but it was on their terms not someone else's.


    OP - 10 years is a great accomplishment.  Instead of dwelling on the past, celebrate that you and your husband have made it 10 years.  Have a vow renewal.  Invite your family and friends to the event.  Get yourself a pretty dress (although I would not go too puffy, something simple), get your DH in a nice suit.  Put your daughter in a pretty dress.  Carry some nice flowers.  Walk down the aisle by yourself.  Say some vows.  Then have a kickass party.  Don't forget a photographer to record it all.

    I like vow renewals.  I've been to quite a few.  They are nice and sweet. 

    ETA - Have a special dance, just do not call it a 'first dance'.  Cut a cake if you want.  I mean, even birthdays have cake cuttings.   I would not have the showers, b-parties, tosses, etc.







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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: never had a wedding... can we have one now? : It really depends on the 20-year-old in question.
    Posted by LD1970[/QUOTE]

    Disagree. The 20 year old might be extremely immature and FEEL that she has no choice in said situations, but that's absolutely not true. She is considered an adult. Just because she hasn't been treated like one, nor has taken responsibility for her actions simply doesn't mean she isn't a legal adult who needs to take personal responsibility.

    However, that's not to say I don't symathize that OP was in a bad situation where her choices were marriage vs. being out on the street. I doubt I would have chosen differently in her situation when presented with a pastor. However, there's no use dwelling on the past. What's done is done. C'est la vie.
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  • I'd say if you feel like having a $10,000+ party, then have one, but do a different theme than "wedding." It could be really fun. You could really do something fun for all your friends and fam. I do think delayed PPDs are a little lame though, sorry. 
  • Wow, I'm sorry that some people feel like they have to be judgmental and cruel, OP. I definitely think you should have a lovely vow renewal for your 10 year anniversary. Best of luck to you and your husband, you both sound like you've been through a lot.
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    [QUOTE]I'd say if you feel like having a $10,000+ party, then have one, but do a different theme than "wedding." It could be really fun. You could really do something fun for all your friends and fam. I do think delayed PPDs are a little lame though, sorry. 
    Posted by SparrowSong[/QUOTE]
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  • wow. I really didnt expect some of you to be so mean.

    Thank you for your opinions.

    And a HUGE thanks to everyone who had such kind comforting words.

    At this point, we may just do a 10 year anniversary party or something. Or nothing at all. I dont know that i want to spend the money on a vow renewal. Some of the comments sound alot like my family and I may plan an event that no one will show up for....

    BTW the pastor had no idea that we didn't want to get married then or there. He still doesnt know. And he's a family friend.
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