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Wedding After Being Legally Married

I have a friend who got legally married at a court house last year due her husband being in the military and due to financial reasons. I didn't find out about their marriage until earlier this year, which is fine because we are not that close.

However, I just found out through a mutual friend that this couple is going to have a wedding ceremony and reception this fall and my mutual friend was asked to be a bridesmaid in their wedding. I was talking to my friend (who was asked to be a bridesmaid) about how odd and deceitful I thought this was. They are already legally married, they had their wedding at the court house and it seems like they are lying to their guests about already being married. To my knowledge most of their friends and their parents know they are married but I'm not sure about any other friends and family that are invited to this fall wedding. My friend doesn't really see anything wrong with this and still plans to accept her offer to be a bridesmaid.

But I just can't seem to get past this. I'm not close enough to tell her that this is a huge etiquette fu pas and I think she is pretty far in the planning anyway. I feel like I can't decline the invite because knowing that they are already legally married and disagreeing with their choice to get married again would be a bad reason not to support my friend, but how am I supposed to witness this "marriage" knowing that they are already married? Do I give them a gift or a card anyway? How would you handle this situation?

Also, she is throwing her own bridal shower at the end of July... Should I accept or decline this invite?

I don't want to be the only one of our friends not to attend these events, but I just think what she is doing is rude and deceitful.

Any advice would be very helpful!
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  • Jeez.  Is there something in the water lately?  I feel like every other post involves one of these faux-weddings.

    I'd decline to attend the shower.  Make plans for that weekend.  Or fake being sick.  If  you decide to go to the wedding, I'd bring a card but no gift.
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    [QUOTE]I have a friend who got legally married at a court house last year due her husband being in the military and due to financial reasons. I didn't find out about their marriage until earlier this year, which is fine because we are not that close. However, I just found out through a mutual friend that this couple is going to have a wedding ceremony and reception this fall and my mutual friend was asked to be a bridesmaid in their wedding. I was talking to my friend (who was asked to be a bridesmaid) about how odd and deceitful I thought this was. They are already legally married, they had their wedding at the court house and it seems like they are lying to their guests about already being married. To my knowledge most of their friends and their parents know they are married but I'm not sure about any other friends and family that are invited to this fall wedding. My friend doesn't really see anything wrong with this and still plans to accept her offer to be a bridesmaid. But I just can't seem to get past this. I'm not close enough to tell her that this is a huge etiquette fu pas and I think she is pretty far in the planning anyway. <strong>I feel like I can't decline the invite because knowing that they are already legally married and disagreeing with their choice to get married again would be a bad reason not to support my friend, but how am I supposed to witness this "marriage" knowing that they are already married? </strong>Do I give them a gift or a card anyway? How would you handle this situation? Also, she is throwing her own bridal shower at the end of July... Should I accept or decline this invite? I don't want to be the only one of our friends not to attend these events, but I just think what she is doing is rude and deceitful. Any advice would be very helpful!
    Posted by melanieky[/QUOTE]

    Guests can decline for numerous reasons: personal finances, travel, no time off, date conflict, etc. so just because you decline does not mean that you don't support their marriage. It would just mean you don't see the need to spend your entire afternoon and evening at a fake wedding and reception. And you shouldn't feel guilty about declining if that's what you decide to do.

    Personally I would decline.  All of it.
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  • Yes, it's rude and AW'ing and all of that.  I'm not sure it's deceitful though since people know she is married, they aren't lying about anything.  It's up to you to decline or attend, we can't make that decision for you.  I attended and my husband was a GM in a wedding after a courthouse marriage.  We were very close to the couple so we felt it was necessary, but I wouldn't do that for just anyone, especially if we weren't very close. 

    The strangest thing was watching them take their vows.  I get very emotional at weddings and I didn't at this wedding, I kept thinking, this isn't original, this isn't them joining their life together and I found it hard to "get it up" for them.  I can't think of any other way to put that.  But like I said, I think it's a personal choice for every guest. 

    I will say that throwing a shower after already being married is - Ew.  Plus throwing it for herself, double Ew.  I would definitely decline that. 
  • As Mrs. B pointed out, people decline for all kinds of reasons. It's not like you have to call and tell them you're not coming because you know they're already married. :)

    I would only go to this "wedding" if I was pretty close with the couple and it doesn't sound like you're that close to them.
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    [QUOTE]Yes, it's rude and AW'ing and all of that.  I'm not sure it's deceitful though since people know she is married, they aren't lying about anything.  It's up to you to decline or attend, we can't make that decision for you.  I attended and my husband was a GM in a wedding after a courthouse marriage.  We were very close to the couple so we felt it was necessary, but I wouldn't do that for just anyone, especially if we weren't very close.  <strong>The strangest thing was watching them take their vows.  I get very emotional at weddings and I didn't at this wedding, I kept thinking, this isn't original, this isn't them joining their life together and I found it hard to "get it up" for them.</strong>  I can't think of any other way to put that.  But like I said, I think it's a personal choice for every guest.  I will say that throwing a shower after already being married is - Ew.  Plus throwing it for herself, double Ew.  I would definitely decline that. 
    Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]

    Yes.  All of this.  I've been to two of these weddings, and even though I usually cry like a baby during the vows and kiss, I didn't at all during these.
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  • I agree with what Stacks is saying. Technically they're doing a vow renewal since they're already married. Since they're pitching it as a wedding, that's kinda tacky, but I agree not deceitful. And if she were pitching it as a vow renewal, I probably wouldn't side eye it as much.

    The shower thing is a bit icky. Are you positive she's throwing her own? Perhaps a mother or family member is and she's just overly involved in the planning. Just trying to give some benefit of the doubt here.
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  • Thanks for all of your opinions and advice. The only reason I think they are being a deceitful is because I am not sure who all knows they are already married. I know that their friends and their parents know they are legally married, but I am not sure about grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, other distant relative and friends. I would feel extremely awkward if like half of the guests knew they were already married and the other half had no idea. However I could be wrong and yes if everyone knows they are already married then yeah they aren't lying!

    I'm not completely sure if the shower is thrown by the bride, as Meegles said, she might just be overly involved. Maybe this is the case.
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  • Is this a friendship worth saving? As someone pointed out to me, if they are like this about their wedding it won't stop there.
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  • In Response to Re:Wedding After Being Legally Married:[QUOTE]Jeez.nbsp; Is there something in the water lately?nbsp; I feel like every other post involves one of these fauxweddings.I'd decline to attend the shower.nbsp; Make plans for that weekend.nbsp; Or fake being sick.nbsp; Ifnbsp; you decide to go to the wedding, I'd bring a card but no gift. Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

    Maybe we are all talking about the same bride.
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  • edited June 2012
    My FI and I have a friend getting married in another country (her SO is international) after having a courthouse wedding for benefits, tax, and immigration purposes.  Thankfully we have the excellent excuse of planning our own wedding so we can't afford to attend.  I will be going to her shower and sending a gift for the wedding, but I'm planning on spending less than I would for a couple that wasn't already been married.  I'm not sure how many people know they're already legally married (their parents know, I don't know how far into family it extends beyond that) but I'd be really annoyed if I flew halfway across the world for a wedding and found out they were already married after the fact. 

    ETA: I'm giving a gift because I don't want to lose the friendship, despite the situation.
  • Military isn't an excuse for bad etiquette.  Being married isn't a requirement for deployments, it's a choice you make.  As long as they aren't lying to people the renewal thing isn't really poor etiquette.  I think it's ridiculous to try and make it like a traditional wedding though with a WP, father walking down the aisle, big dress, etc.  Whether you attend is up to you.  I would probably go if I lived there and was close enough to the couple.  But I would never travel for one of these weddings unless we were super close.

    The shower is completely ridiculous, she is not a bride to be anymore.  I would decline that invite and not send a gift if it was me.
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    [QUOTE]Military isn't an excuse for bad etiquette.  <strong>Being married isn't a requirement for deployments, it's a choice you make.</strong>  As long as they aren't lying to people the renewal thing isn't really poor etiquette.  I think it's ridiculous to try and make it like a traditional wedding though with a WP, father walking down the aisle, big dress, etc.  Whether you attend is up to you.  I would probably go if I lived there and was close enough to the couple.  But I would never travel for one of these weddings unless we were super close. The shower is completely ridiculous, she is not a bride to be anymore.  I would decline that invite and not send a gift if it was me.
    Posted by Beachy730[/QUOTE]

    This is true, but they do make more money if they're married as well as other benefits for the military spouse, so I understand why it makes sense to marry before deployment. But I had a friend throw together a lovely wedding for about 50 friends and family in a nearby town with pretty wineries in just about 9 weeks. It can definitely be done if the couple wants a family wedding. That's why I don't buy the military excuse.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wedding After Being Legally Married : This is true, but they do make more money if they're married as well as other benefits for the military spouse, so I understand why it makes sense to marry before deployment. But I had a friend throw together a lovely wedding for about 50 friends and family in a nearby town with pretty wineries in just about 9 weeks. It can definitely be done if the couple wants a family wedding. That's why I don't buy the military excuse.
    Posted by aragx6[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm fully aware of all the "benefits" of getting married before a deployment.  But it's not required, and I get pissed when people use that as an excuse for why they had to go to the courthouse and now deserve a PPD.  We planned our entire wedding for 200 people in 5 months.  Other people have done it quicker than that.  It's not impossible.  And no it doesn't have to be done.  But I hate that some people think being military gives them a free pass to break etiquette and that everyone should be okay with that.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wedding After Being Legally Married : I'm fully aware of all the "benefits" of getting married before a deployment.  But it's not required, and I get pissed when people use that as an excuse for why they had to go to the courthouse and now deserve a PPD.  We planned our entire wedding for 200 people in 5 months.  Other people have done it quicker than that.  It's not impossible.  And no it doesn't have to be done.  <strong>But I hate that some people think being military gives them a free pass to break etiquette and that everyone should be okay with that.
    </strong>Posted by Beachy730[/QUOTE]

    I wholeheartedly agree.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wedding After Being Legally Married : This is true, but they do make more money if they're married as well as other benefits for the military spouse, so I understand why it makes sense to marry before deployment. But I had a friend throw together a lovely wedding for about 50 friends and family in a nearby town with pretty wineries in just about 9 weeks. It can definitely be done if the couple wants a family wedding. That's why I don't buy the military excuse.
    Posted by aragx6[/QUOTE]

    I agree with this.  I had a very good friend whose fiance was deployed.  They moved up the date, changed from a Saturday to a Sunday to accomodate their vendors, and it was one of the nicest weddings I've been to. 
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    And Beachy, I agree with your opinion 100%!
  • I would decline the shower. Oops! You have something else to do that weekend!

    If you aren't close enough to have gotten her a gift after you found out about her wedding, then there's no need to give her a gift, period.
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  • I'd decline the shower. Holy tackiness, Batman.

    If everyone knows they're already married, I'm less judgy about the fake wedding. If almost nobody knows, I'm judging hard.  Really hard.

    As for the ceremony, if it was local and I didn't have something I'd rather be doing, I might go just to see if it's a sh*itshow, or try to catch someone's reaction when they find out they're already married.  And maybe for free food and booze. But I'd give maybe a card, if they're being honest.  Or wrap an empty box as a pretend gift for a pretend wedding (if they're lying).
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    [QUOTE]I have a friend who got legally married at a court house last year due her husband being in the military and due to financial reasons. I didn't find out about their marriage until earlier this year, which is fine because we are not that close. However, I just found out through a mutual friend that this couple is going to have a wedding ceremony and reception this fall and my mutual friend was asked to be a bridesmaid in their wedding. I was talking to my friend (who was asked to be a bridesmaid) about how odd and deceitful I thought this was. They are already legally married, they had their wedding at the court house and it seems like they are lying to their guests about already being married. To my knowledge most of their friends and their parents know they are married but I'm not sure about any other friends and family that are invited to this fall wedding. My friend doesn't really see anything wrong with this and still plans to accept her offer to be a bridesmaid. But I just can't seem to get past this. I'm not close enough to tell her that this is a huge etiquette fu pas and I think she is pretty far in the planning anyway. I feel like I can't decline the invite because knowing that they are already legally married and disagreeing with their choice to get married again would be a bad reason not to support my friend, but how am I supposed to witness this "marriage" knowing that they are already married? Do I give them a gift or a card anyway? How would you handle this situation? Also, she is throwing her own bridal shower at the end of July... Should I accept or decline this invite? I don't want to be the only one of our friends not to attend these events, but I just think what she is doing is rude and deceitful. Any advice would be very helpful!
    Posted by melanieky[/QUOTE]


    hate to rock the boat, but this is actually pretty common with military families ... due to the circumstances (deployments and such ) a lot of people get married at the courthouse and have the wedding  and reception later because they still want the experience of the wedding... if the family knows they are already married and most people seem to know that it would really make difference to i see no problem with it... you found out they are already married... most others probably have too -
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Wedding After Being Legally Married : hate to rock the boat, but this is actually pretty common with military families ... due to the circumstances (deployments and such ) a lot of people get married at the courthouse and have the wedding  and reception later because they still want the experience of the wedding... if the family knows they are already married and most people seem to know that it would really make difference to i see no problem with it... you found out they are already married... most others probably have too -
    Posted by DMoore421[/QUOTE]

    <div>Nobody said it wasn't common.  I for one said it's not an excuse to break etiquette.  She shouldn't have a bridal shower if she is already married.  And everyone should be aware that they are already married.  Deployments and the military aren't an excuse.</div>
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  • sometimes it makes sense in the military to do this, my cousin did because she wouldn't have been able to move to japan with her hubby when he was going to be stationed there.  so they got married at a courthouse in florida to get the paperwork going before having a big wedding in ny with all of their nearest and dearest.

    no, it's not always an excuse to break etiquette, but as long as you're open about it then i think it's totally fine.

    however, throwing your own bridal shower is tacky as hell.

    also, it sounds to me as if op doesn't even know if she's invited to this wedding or shower yet.  she's just heard about it from other friends.  jumping the gun much? 
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