WTF Philadelphia!

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/us/25mobs.html?src=me


"Flash Mob" -  Has anyone heard of this?  I haven't but from what I read kids in Philly are taking it to a whole new horrible level.

mandybear7

Clearly, my point has been missed. I'm not denying there are entitled kids out there that are not taught responsibility, but I'm just saying that there are other angles to look at.

You had the moral guidance and upbringing. In some areas, kids just do not. Violence is the norm and when some kids do not have the guidance to steer them otherwise, the cycle continues. Programs at libraries, sports, and boys and girls clubs offer that guidance. When these programs are cut because of the economy, it's detrimental.

The mob mentioned in the article was not a bunch of entitled rich teens who take advantage of their parents money.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]Clearly, my point has been missed. I'm not denying there are entitled kids out there that are not taught responsibility, but I'm just saying that there are other angles to look at. You had the moral guidance and upbringing. In some areas, kids just do not. Violence is the norm and when some kids do not have the guidance to steer them otherwise, the cycle continues. Programs at libraries, sports, and boys and girls clubs offer that guidance. When these programs are cut because of the economy, it's detrimental. The mob mentioned in the article was not a bunch of entitled rich teens who take advantage of their parents money.
Posted by mandybear7[/QUOTE]


You actually have no way of knowing that not a single one of them had money and priveledge.

britne28

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[QUOTE]My aunt and I were talking about it and she thinks its the shift from only one parent working to both working, and then both working a lot. When she was a kid (in the 50/60s) they lived in one income and had to work for whatever they wanted and knew the value of hard work and a dollar. Then when both parents started working (in later years and future generations), there was a sense of guilt for "abandoning" the child so the parents compensated with lots of gifts, lettingthe kids do what they want, and a lack of discipline. Im not entirely sure what it is making kids so angry though, but youre right moose they do seem really angry.
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

Both my parents worked but we had boundaries and no sense of entitlement.  If parents don't discipline because they feel guilty then they should be held responsible along with the kids getting into trouble.  Parents are not supposed to be your best friend growing up. 

Every generation has angst and anger but I don't know where the beatings, lootings, and mayhem come from.  We rebeled by staying out late or talking back.

mandybear7

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: WTF Philadelphia! : You actually have no way of knowing that not a single one of them had money and priveledge.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

That is true. I am limited to the information from the article and from personal experience.

ETA: My basic point is I just think that it is sad that kids cannot participate in positive after school programs due to funding purposes. Many of these kids do not have a positive environment to go home to.

mwhitson14

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: WTF Philadelphia! : I think it's a decrease in guidance from well-adjusted adults.
Posted by pandasquishy[/QUOTE]

This is exactly what I think it is. We're starting to get generations of kids that were raised by kids. The 4th graders I have now, half their parents are only a couple years older than me, which means 14 and 15 year olds having babies.

And I'm not trying to say that teenage parents make bad parents, but the majority of the time, it's kids having kids and that almost always leads to bad results.

plylerk2

Just to clarify:

The "flash mob" kids and the "catch and wreck" kids are two separate groups. "Catch and wreck" is apparently a "game" where people are getting beat up by small groups of 12 and 13 year-olds.

The flash mobs are city-wide and organized online. I don't believe everyone that is showing up has violent intent, but, when you get that many teenagers together there are bound to be some with bad intentions and people have been hurt as a result.

Doesn't make a huge difference really, just means we have two problems instead of one, unfortunately.