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Venue Poaching; Is it OK?

Hello Eveyone,

I was hoping to get some persepctive on a situation I am in and how, if even possible, I should handle it?

My fiance and I got engaged three years ago, the day we closed on our house.  I knew when we got engaged that we would have a long engagement since I was planning to return to school as was he.  A couple of months after we were engaged my boss suggested a wedding venue out of Chicago, in the suburbs and although I did look at it and get information I decided to check our destination weddings and pretty much every other venue in the Chicagoland area, since I was going to have the time.  While in school I met someone who had worked on the venue my boss had recommended and decided that it was the best option for our budget.  Well over the summer (of 2012) I did my internship and was approaching the halfway mark in school.  We reviewed my schedule and realized I was on track to graduate in 2014 and since we are not the youngest couple (I am 35 and he is 33) we are eager to start a family.  So we settled on October 2014 and settled on the venue that my co-worker and classmate had both recommended.  We knew our wedding was still far away, so we did not find it necessary to send out the information to guests and family.  Then in October my fiance's sister got engaged.  I worried about competing for dates, venues, guests, etc but at the time of her engagement she stated that they would not be planning their wedding immediately since they were both recently unemployed.  However, couple of months later, when we were gathered for Christmas she began discussing wedding plans and stated that they were going to move forward planning a wedding.  So, since she was showing her mother, my future mother in law, her current #1 venue (the Chicago Botanic Garden) I took the opportunity to secure our site and date by sharing the information with both her and her mother.  I figured that if I let them know our date and venue that they would be respectful and not choose either.  In late January I received a text from my future sister in law that she was going to go visit my venue along with a couple of others.  I again let her know that it was our first choice venue and that we were planning for Oct. 2014.  Then this weekend she was over at our home and she told us that they were going to use our venue and that they were going to have their wedding May of 2014.  About 5 1/2 months before ours.  When she told us I reiterated that it was our first choice venue and listed the options we were already going with (honey favors, bonfire, mini-pies in lieu of cake etc) and she then responded they were doing the same and began to make other venue suggestions to us.  It took all of my energy not to loose it.  Here she was after a couple of months searching telling me to check out places I had already researched and prices out over the three years of my engagement.  She then proceeded to inform me that some of MY friends would be on her guest list.

Now, I am personally devastated.  I do not mind that she is using the site, but why not after us!  She has a guest list of 150 and we only have 75.  About half of our list will be invited to hers and most of them have to travel accross the country.  There is no way that these people are travelling twice in 5 months and espeacially to see the same venue/wedding.  I feel like there is nothing I can say without her getting upset and his family vinalizing me.  But I feel cheated.  We have always tried to pay our own way and be independant.  We are hardworking and responsible and have been together for 13 years.  I have looked forward to this wedding for quite some time and as it has begun to take shape I have someone who is soon to be family, step in and book the venue she knew I was planning on.  

Am I wrong to be upset?  To feel hurt and betrayed?
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  • You're not wrong to be upset, but betrayed is a little dramatic in my opinion.  I can understand being put off when she began suggesting that you look for a different venue-that was inappropriate of her to do and I would have been miffed too.  However, she can't "steal" your ideas if you don't share them with her-so stop sharing the details of your wedding!

    You do not own the venue, and if she wants to use it, then she can use it.  Your wedding will be unique because it's YOURS.  If you think your friends and family are going to be disappointed to attend your wedding at the same venue, I think you need a reality check-it's not about the venue but the fact that you're getting married, and that's what people want to see.  Take a step back, be mad, but get over it.  She will be your family for life, and you need to decide if this is really hill you want to die on.

    FWIW, being devastated over something like this is really over the top-its a venue.  People are devastated when they find out a family member has cancer or when they lose a job and can't take care of their families-not when they have to share a location for a party with someone else.
  • First of all, how many places on here did you post this?  Geez!

    Secondly, get over it.  It's 5 1/2 months before yours and it's not her fault you're having a very long engagement. As I said in my other response to your post, take it as a compliment that you chose a great venue.

    What you SHOULD be doing is contacting vendors together and start trying to work a discount since they can get two bookings in one. 
  • Aaaaaaaaaaaand wait...I just reread this.  You haven't booked it yet?  This is just your PREFERENCE?  Then you really don't have a whole lot to be mad about.  You should have booked it then if you wanted it so badly.
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    [QUOTE]Hello Eveyone, I was hoping to get some persepctive on a situation I am in and how, if even possible, I should handle it? My fiance and I got engaged three years ago, the day we closed on our house.  I knew when we got engaged that we would have a long engagement since I was planning to return to school as was he.  A couple of months after we were engaged my boss suggested a wedding venue out of Chicago, in the suburbs and although I did look at it and get information I decided to check our destination weddings and pretty much every other venue in the Chicagoland area, since I was going to have the time.  While in school I met someone who had worked on the venue my boss had recommended and decided that it was the best option for our budget.  Well over the summer (of 2012) I did my internship and was approaching the halfway mark in school.  We reviewed my schedule and realized I was on track to graduate in 2014 and since we are not the youngest couple (I am 35 and he is 33) we are eager to start a family.  So we settled on October 2014 and settled on the venue that my co-worker and classmate had both recommended.  We knew our wedding was still far away, so we did not find it necessary to send out the information to guests and family.  Then in October my fiance's sister got engaged.  I worried about competing for dates, venues, guests, etc but at the time of her engagement she stated that they would not be planning their wedding immediately since they were both recently unemployed.  However, couple of months later, when we were gathered for Christmas she began discussing wedding plans and stated that they were going to move forward planning a wedding.  So, since she was showing her mother, my future mother in law, her current #1 venue (the Chicago Botanic Garden) I took the opportunity to secure our site and date by sharing the information with both her and her mother.  I figured that if I let them know our date and venue that they would be respectful and not choose either.  In late January I received a text from my future sister in law that she was going to go visit my venue along with a couple of others.  I again let her know that it was our first choice venue and that we were planning for Oct. 2014.  Then this weekend she was over at our home and she told us that they were going to use our venue and that they were going to have their wedding May of 2014.  About 5 1/2 months before ours.  When she told us I reiterated that it was our first choice venue and listed the options we were already going with (honey favors, bonfire, mini-pies in lieu of cake etc) and she then responded they were doing the same and began to make other venue suggestions to us.  It took all of my energy not to loose it.  Here she was after a couple of months searching telling me to check out places I had already researched and prices out over the three years of my engagement.  She then proceeded to inform me that some of MY friends would be on her guest list. Now, I am personally devastated.  I do not mind that she is using the site, but why not after us!  She has a guest list of 150 and we only have 75.  About half of our list will be invited to hers and most of them have to travel accross the country.  There is no way that these people are travelling twice in 5 months and espeacially to see the same venue/wedding.  I feel like there is nothing I can say without her getting upset and his family vinalizing me.  But I feel cheated.  We have always tried to pay our own way and be independant.  We are hardworking and responsible and have been together for 13 years.  I have looked forward to this wedding for quite some time and as it has begun to take shape I have someone who is soon to be family, step in and book the venue she knew I was planning on.   Am I wrong to be upset?  To feel hurt and betrayed?
    Posted by vivykat[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>You're having a really long engagement.  Can you move it up to October 2013?  Problem solved.  There's not really much you can do if she's already booked, other than relax (like I told you in your post on Reception Ideas) and stop sharing wedding details with her if you don't want her to do the same thing as you.

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  • Agree with freebread and mlg.  You can be upset but unless your FSIL purposefully picked the same day, I don't think it's that big a deal.  I grew up (and got married in) a place where there were not a lot of options for wedding receptions outside of church halls and VFWs.  If you wanted the hotel ballroom experience chances were someone in your family used the place before for their wedding, or had their prom there, or went to an even there last month.  It happens.

    The beauty of the your wedding isn't going to be in the venue.  It will be in the elements you and your FI choose to represent your commitment to each other and the warmth with which you host your guests. So move your wedding up if you really want to be first or find a different venue if you can't stand the thought of FSIL also being married there - but then move beyond it and focus on the things that matter.  (Or like mlg said, see if working together can get you both some discounts.)
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  • Honestly, this is a feeling I just don't understand.  You feel how you feel, I just don't get it.
     80% of my family got married in the same 3 churches and had their receptions at one of 5 different venues.   Each wedding was just as special and unique as the next.

    May of 2014 is 15 months away.  I think it's ridiculous for you to except them to wait an additional year to get married.  (I'm sure you want them to wait a few months after your own to get married).    They are also not getting any younger and might want to start a family.  I feel like its selfish of you to even suggest such a thing.


    Sorry, but I think you need to suck it up and get over it.   Having a long engagement comes with consequences.  Including people around you getting engaged and married before you and possible at a location you picked.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • When I first started reading this, I was thinking, "so what? a venue can have such a different look and feel depending on the decor, vendors, and guests." However, when I read that she is doing ALL of the same things as you (honey favors, pies, etc.), I felt that is a bigger problem especially since she's getting married first. You probably think everyone will think you stole her ideas. You want your day to be special and unique.

    That being said, it is not worth a fight. She obviously doesn't see why it would be a problem to have the same venue and theme. Some people are just like that. You have a lot of time to plan your wedding. It sucks, but I would start shopping around to see if there's another venue you can fall in love with (or keep this one if you can't-no big deal) and plan an even better theme (and don't tell her a thing about what you are doing until her wedding is over!). I realize you probably picked honey favors and pies for a personal reason, but I don't see any scenario where you confront her, she says, "you're right, I'm not going to use all of your ideas. I'm sorry," the family isn't unnecessarily pulled into the issue, and you remain on good terms.

  • Why would you tell her every single detail you had planned?
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  • Ok, you haven't even booked the place so she certainly isn't poaching your venue.

    Second,  I doubt she stole your ideas you both just have been looking on Pinterest at the same items that every other bride in the world is looking at.

    Third, you picked your date and they picked theirs.  Just because you got engaged first does not mean you have a say on when anyone else gets married.

    I think being devastated over this is a bit much.  Yeah you can be upset but you need to get over it.  Either use the same venue or find somewhere else.

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    [QUOTE]Why would you tell her every single detail you had planned?
    Posted by allychase[/QUOTE]


    See I didn't read it that way.  I read that after they said they were going to use the venue the OP told them of her plans and it just so happened to be the same options they choose.  It might be that the sales person is good at upgrading people, not that they are copying the OP.

    I could be wrong.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Venue Poaching; Is it OK? : See I didn't read it that way.  I read that after they said they were going to use the venue the OP told them of her plans and it just so happened to be the same options they choose.  It might be that the sales person is good at upgrading people, not that they are copying the OP. I could be wrong.
    Posted by lyndausvi[/QUOTE]

    That is how I read it too.  It seems that they either have the same style and just don't know it or the venues coordinator tends to sell the same thing to every couple.

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    [QUOTE]I don't think you are wrong to be upset, hurt or betrayed. I would feel the same. I can't believe she would do something like that.  I know with my FI and I we had to compete with two other couples who are our friends for dates in June and July. We were able to work it out because Couple A decided to do their wedding in June and then Couple B and Me and my FI also had a problem because we had chosen the same date in July, but since they are already put a deposited down on the venue(different ceremony; same reception) we changed our date because almost half our guest life is the same, we just chose the weekend before (but none of our friends of from out of town so it doesn't matter about them traveling). If they have already put down a deposit I would try to find a different/better place. If I wasn't completely set on my date and FSIL deliberately did what yours did I would change the date to something before hers (I know that will get negative comments but I have let people push me around since I was a child and I don't do that anymore, I push right back and<strong> this is MY opinion so if other don't like it don't read it.)</strong> 
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    If I hadn't read it, how would I know not to read it? 
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  • I like the idea of moving your wedding to Oct 2013, but I am mean like that. Also stop talking about your wedding, that way she cant steal your ideas.

    I am from Chicago, what is this dream venue? Maybe I can help suggest another place?
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  • OP, I do understand why you are disappointed, but I think that's sort of where it should stop.  I don't think that you were betrayed.  The other couple probably just fell in love with the venue for the same reasons you did.  Try to look at this from the other side of the fence: if you got engaged and started looking at venues, found a great place that you loved, and your brother and his FI said they were heavily favoring the same place, do you think you would go another way?  I can't say that I would, if I really loved the place.

    H's sister picked a wedding date around New Year's 2011 for 10/27/12.  H and I got engaged in Feb of 2011 and set our date for 09/08/12.  I'm pretty sure H's mom and sister were pissed about it but you know what?  That is what suited our plans, so that is what we did, and in the end it didn't take away from SIL's wedding day at all.  Our weddings were completely different, except that we both had candy bars. 

    My advice is this.  You cannot change your FSIL's plans and it would likely cause a rift between you and your future in-laws if you try.  So...

    Option 1 is to get married at the venue you chose, but change your date to before FSIL's. 

    Option 2 is to get married at the venue you chose on the date you chose and try not to worry about what people will think.  FWIW, I honestly would think NOTHING of it if I attended two weddings at the same venue.  I would just think this venue must be a real gem and/or that you and the other couple have similar tastes.

    Option 3 is to change your venue.  If it's important enough to you, take another look around at potential venues.  Maybe someone has renovated, or a new venue has opened up that you will be even more excited about. 

    Finally, as for the details (honey, pies, etc), if it bothers you that she might try to use the same ideas, don't share them anymore.  If you do end up getting married 5 months after her, whether it's at the same venue or not, and she uses the same ideas you planned on, you can always change your plans.  With such a long engagement, your ideas may change anyway, I know mine did.
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  • The OP has been engaged for 3 years already.  She is not getting married for almost another 2 years.  I think it's ridiclous to think she has a lock on a venue for 5 straight years.  






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • In Response to Re:Venue Poaching; Is it OK?:[QUOTE]The OP has been engaged for 3 years already.nbsp; She is not getting married for almost another 2 years.nbsp; I think it's ridiclous to think she has a lock on a venue for 5 straight years.nbsp;nbsp; Posted by lyndausvi[/QUOTE]

    Very good point!
  • Sorry but I agree there isn't much you can do about it.  Some people that live in really small towns only have 2 options so there will always be overlap.  I agree it was sucky of your FSIL to pick your venue too, but you are having a really long engagement and things happen.  You can expect them to put off their plans until you are ready to get married.  If it means that much to you, get married this Oct.  You hadn't even booked your venue so you have no right to get mad.

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  • I think you just need to let it go. Does it suck? yeah, but its not the end of the world and not worth being this upset over. 

    Your preferred wedding date is still a year and a half away, and you haven't even booked the venue yet. You don't get to call dibs unless you've plunked down cash, and even then using the same venue isn't the end of the world. And I'm nearly positive that in the time between now and then you're tastes might change and whats 'trendy' in weddings now will be totally different...

    As an aside- My family belongs to a private club and almost all of the family weddings have taken place there. Each was was unique and special, because its the couple who makes the wedding fun, not the venue. 



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  • It does suck she wants to use the same venue, but use this to your advantage. You now get to see your venue in action during a wedding, and have time to change things that didn't work or could work better.

    My H and I got engaged about 8 months before his sister did, although she got married about 4 months before us. We both shared a few vendors and it was nice to see how they did things for another wedding.

     If you feel she is using every exact detail of the wedding, then don't share with her. But to be honest, most of the ideas I had this early on in planning (favors, centerpieces, ect)  I scrapped before the actual day.
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    [QUOTE] There is no way that these people are travelling twice in 5 months and espeacially to see the same venue/wedding.
    Posted by vivykat[/QUOTE]

    PPs have pretty much covered it, but I just can't get over the above.  "What! my cousin Bill is getting married!  Oh yay I can't wait to go.  Wait; he's getting married in the same place as his sister?  Oh been there, done that, no need to attend that one."

    Seriously, OP. 
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    I fully agree with ans3f! The OP has every right to feel hurt and betrayed. No one can tell you that what you are feeling is right or wrong.

    However, what's important is how you act on your feelings. Since she's going to be family, it's probably best to avoid a fight, no matter how much she copies you! Besides, you should be flattered - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, right?

    I love the idea of moving your wedding to be before theirs. If it's feasible, you definitely should! But if it's not, see if you can change the theme of your wedding without changing the venue. You shouldn't have to change the venue! Pick something even better and more unique than before. Don't tell your fiance's sister about the new theme, either. The theme and decor, if done right, can totally change a venue. If your theme is totally different, your guests will feel like they are at a different venue. Besides, your true friends and family members are going to be there for you on your big day no matter what!

    Now, if she starts stealing baby names, that's a whole different problem Wink
  • Try Independence Grove if you are so worried. It is VERY pretty and has the same type of vibe you are going for...
  • Am I the only one who would side-eye someone moving up their already planned wedding solely to get married before another sibling?  

    The FSIL has planned a wedding for 15 months from now.  Hardly rushing into to things in my opinion.  If she got married after the OP that would make her have over a 2 year engagement.  While fine for some people,   it's way too long for my own liking.   It might also be for the FSIL.


    I mean, go ahead, move up the wedding to beat the sibling to the alter.  I just think it makes you look bad.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • Sorry this was in more than one spot.  I joined for some perspective and ideas and when I first posted my computer froze and I did not know where it went.  Then I realized it was on the national board and I wanted to keep it on the Chicago Board so that I could get other venue suggestions.  I tried to figure out how to move it from one board to another or delete the first two that went into the wrong spots but could not figure it out.

    My biggest concern is the guest overlap.  My guest list is pretty small, it has only 75-80 and about half of mine is also on hers since the majority of the family is on FI's side.  Even some of my friends are on her list despite the fact that she does not see them/hang out with them without me. 

    As for being upset.  I am pretty emotionally about this day.  Due to factors out of my control I have managed to miss all of life's big milestone moments and as I get older I find that there are less of them to look forward to, so I really wanted to have a special and unique wedding and I just feel that having half of m guests attend the same kind of wedding before mine just cancels that out.  Add to that the work of having to start looking again.  I work two jobs and attend culinary school full time and my FI works full time and attends graduate school.  So, our time is pretty limited and it took us a long time to settle on this location.

    My friends have also suggested moving up my date to "beat her to it", but I just can not do that.  It would cause useless drama and honestly I just don't like to do things like that.  I know weddings bring out some of the worst in people and I just don't want any conflict that can be avoided.

    Thank you all for the feedback and those who have had constructive suggestions and venue suggestions I greatly appreciate them.  
  • Just keep in mind that your wedding will still be different and personal to you, even if it is at the same venue.  There is a VFW hall in my hometown, and I have been to like four different weddings there.  In fact, two of my cousins (who are siblings) both had their reception there within a year of each other.  Each wedding had a totally different feel and vibe because each couple had unique touches that made it special.  You have every right to feel annoyed and upset, but just make the best of it.
  • edited February 2013

    Although I agree with PP that you need to get past this, I do sympathize with being disappointed.  It is a little weird that she chose the same venue you had your eye on, but it is also true that you can't reserve a venue for five years.

    I get the concern about guest overlap.  My FSIL got engaged a few months after us and is getting married six months before us.  My FI is from out of state, so we are aware that a lot of his relatives might not be able to travel for both weddings.  Although it will be disappointing if people can't come, I look on the bright side that we can have extra food or flowers or something if we save money by having fewer guests.  We are also sending out STDs early, but not really because FSIL is getting married before us...more because our wedding is eleven days before Christmas.  We will send out the STDs no earlier than nine months before, and probably more like seven months.

    When FSIL first got engaged, I got pretty bridezilla about it (in my head, I didn't act on it) and was really upset and disappointed.  Then I realized that I was being selfish and that I don't have a right to reserve an entire year for our wedding.  I also realize that our weddings will be totally different because we are different people, and that ten years from now when I remember our wedding I won't remember that she got married first, I will remember how awesome our wedding day was.  Basically, it should be a happy time and it isn't worth it to be upset about it.  It also was not an option to me to throw a fit about it and end up destroying familial relationships over a wedding.

    Really, it is better that your wedding will be second, because you can make sure not to do the exact same things she is doing.  Also, keep your ideas to yourself if you don't want to feel like she is "stealing them."  It might also make you feel better if you try to get involved with her planning, because weddng planning is fun even if it isn't yours.  I've found that it's been fun to talk weddings with FSIL, especially because we have been engaged so long that I'm an expert by this point lol.

    Good luck.

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    [QUOTE]Although I agree with PP that you need to get past this, I do sympathize with being disappointed.  It is a little weird that she chose the same venue you had your eye on, but it is also true that you can't reserve a venue for five years. I get the concern about guest overlap.  My FSIL got engaged a few months after us and is getting married six months before us.  My FI is from out of state, so we are aware that a lot of his relatives might not be able to travel for both weddings.  Although it will be disappointing if people can't come, I look on the bright side that we can have extra food or flowers or something if we save money by having fewer guests.  We are also sending out STDs early, but not really because FSIL is getting married before us...more because our wedding is eleven days before Christmas.  We will send out the STDs no earlier than nine months before, and probably more like seven months. When FSIL first got engaged, I got pretty bridezilla about it (in my head, I didn't act on it) and was really upset and disappointed.  <strong>Then I realized that I was being selfish and that I don't have a right to reserve an entire year for our wedding.  I also realize that our weddings will be totally different because we are different people, and that ten years from now when I remember our wedding I won't remember that she got married first, I will remember how awesome our wedding day was. </strong> Basically, it should be a happy time and it isn't worth it to be upset about it.  <strong>It also was not an option to me to throw a fit about it and end up destroying familial relationships over a wedding. </strong>Really, it is better that your wedding will be second, because you can make sure not to do the exact same things she is doing.  Also, keep your ideas to yourself if you don't want to feel like she is "stealing them."  It might also make you feel better if you try to get involved with her planning, because weddng planning is fun even if it isn't yours.  I've found that it's been fun to talk weddings with FSIL, especially because we have been engaged so long that I'm an expert by this point lol. Good luck.
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  • listen to Next, she is wise.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • I get being upset, especially when you've had your eye on this venue for so long, but you need to try to get over it quickly.  First, neither of you have even booked the venue yet, so at the moment, you are only considering the same options.  Second, especially with such a long engagmenet, you cannot expect anyone to plan around you.

    But even if she books it and then you book it, I assure you it will be fine.  I've actually attended different weddings held at the same venue and they did not resemble one another at all.  Different colors, different menu selection, different seasons, different people, etc.  Plus, look at the bright side, if she gets married there before you, you can learn from her wedding what worked and what didn't, how to negotiate a better deal, etc.

    And the most important thing to remember is that at the end of your wedding day, you will be married to the man you love...everything else is just details.
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  • I understand why you're upset. However, if my brother (in his 30s) had been dating a woman for 13 years, had been engaged for 3 years, and was planning a 5 year long engagement, I would not be planning my wedding around theirs. I don't think expecting your venue and options and your guest list to be just for you is reasonable. I'm assuming FSIL is friends with your friends too, or they would be wondering why Jane's fiance's sister is inviting them to her wedding.
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