"I don't care what other people think" and being a celebrity

Moneypenny424

I probably shouldn't be annoyed by this, but I am.  In a discussion about Kate Middleton losing weight for the wedding, someone said "I don't give a rat's *ss about what the world thinks and I wouldn't change myself" and then basically called me shallow.

Honestly, if I was getting married in front of the whole world, I would try to look as good as humanly possible.  I don't want people saying I'm fat.  Clearly she doesn't nee to lose weight, but yes, people's opinions matter to me.

What do you think?

baystateapple

I'm really, really self-conscious anyway.  I don't think that would have changed if I'd been famous.

Also, I don't think it's shallow to want to look and feel your best.

crfische

I really wanted to vote for number 4. JUST SO YOU KNOW.

Moneypenny424

Why, thank you

jemmini6

I put other just because I would never want to be a celebrity.  LOL...I definitely don't envy Kate Middleton and having everyone judge you like that.  That being said, if I were in her shoes, yeah, I'd probably want to get in shape because literally the whole world is watching. 

For me personally, I care to an extent, but I think me getting in shape for my wedding is for me, not for everyone else.  But I can see where for her, it's for everyone else (because she obviously already doesn't need to lose weight, but you know there are people who will criticise her if there was a tiny hint of fat somewhere)

Rosie109

You are awesome and I do care what people think of me and I am not famous. I didn't vote for you being awesome I just wanted you to know I think you are awesome.

louisvillebride21

Totally not being an ass here, but can someone tell me why this wedding is such a big deal? It's even bigger than Clinton's wedding. Viewing parties? Someone on the nest is knitting the royal family....Is it because it's Diana's son?

Edit: yes, I would care. I don't want the world calling me a fatty mcfat fat.

laladypoet

mp, I wanted to vote for you being awesome but whatevs. you know my feelings.

I voted for #1. and that smug individual sucks.

Birdie1483

I think people are just still tuned in to the "fairytale" prince charming wedding. At least that's why it's fascinating to me. Sure the Clintons are a big political family here, but I don't think I could compare them in my head to British royalty.

I'm just excited to see what her dress is going to be like, what she'll do with her hair, etc because it really is a true pretty princess day.

Oh, and to answer the OP I would definitely care and I can see how KM would care too (even though I don't think she has an ounce of fat to lose. Maybe she's toning?

louisvillebride21

Yeah, damn she is pretty. Biitch.

annakb8

Yeah, I would care. I already feel pressure to be thin and I'm very much not famous, and I have both a FI and mother who have never even once commented negatively about my weight or appearance. It's human nature to care. And if people were sticking pictures of me everywhere from coffee mugs to toilet seat covers you bet I would care even more.

And LVB, I think people care about this wedding more than Chelsea Clinton's because being royal is a lot different than being the daughter of a retired president. William has been and will be a public figure for his entire life, while Chelsea Clinton has never officially been a public figure and her father is retired. And people still made a way bigger deal about that wedding than they did about Jenna Bush's, and she was married while her father was still in office. Also, as far as I know it wasn't brodcast so no one would have been able to have a viewing party.

mandapanda78

I picked "Moneypenny is Awesome" because A) it's true. and cause there wasn't a good answer for me. I am pretty good at not caring what other people think, but I don't think you're shallow if you DO care.

louisvillebride21

Huh. I just don't get it still. I mean, I wanna see pics of the dress afterwards, but I'm that way about any famous person. I guess 'royal' just doesn't do it for me I'm broken.

annakb8

Oh, I think a lot of people are going overboard, especially with all the crazy memorabillia. But I don't think its weird that people care more about this than they did about the Clinton wedding.

Habs2Hart

Did anyone see the last people mag with pics of Reese Witherspoons wedding?  Those pics were really pretty and probably one of the most laid back "celebrity" weddings of the year.

this is a "Royal" wedding, not just a celeb wedding.  It's on a whole different playing field.  Celebs are here today, gone tomorrow.  Same with presidents.  But Royalty will be here forever. 

And I do think some of it is because of Di.  She was such a popular princess and the whole world made a big deal of her passing, and this is her son.  So I think that has something to do with it too.

missy68

And dude - Chelsea Clinton made her DAD lose weight for her wedding. So come on.

There are days when I still feel like the old me, and that I'm ugly and fat and have no idea why I'd think anything different.

And I'll ALWAYS have major issues with certain body parts, because that's where it's leftover. I can't believe it doesn't bother anyone, because it bothers the hell out of me.

Beachy730

I voted for #1 because I do care, but honestly, the whole losing weight for the wedding attitude annoys me.  That may be hypocritical because I lost weight before my wedding, but only because I had gained weight and wanted to get back to my regular size for the wedding.  Once I got there I stopped dieting.  I hate the mentality that brides should be 10 or so pounds lighter than they normally are for their wedding.

LVB, I'm with you.  I really don't give two shits about that wedding.  I can't wait til it's over with (and probably about 2 weeks after still) so they stop talking about it.  

Birdie1483

I actually don't care about William anymore because he's balding and seems like kind of a weirdo. But I have a girl crush on Kate.

Birdie1483

The memorabilia that is being made for this wedding is the fugliest stuff I've ever seen.

mica178

I voted for #4.  Because it's true.

Oh, and I'd probably care.  I'm insecure like that.  It's a good thing that I'm not famous.

Moneypenny424

Thanks ladies, I think y'all are awesome too.

LVB, I just care because it is like the ultimate Platinum Wedding.  I just want to see her dress and stuff.  What a shame that William lost his hair--he peaked when he was about 16.

Anna, I dont' know what you're talking about with people buying too much memorabilia.  My new fridge came this weekend and I love it:

Sharkdiver1980

If Kate wants to lose weight then she should go for it. I don't think she should HAVE to, because the world says so... eff that! She's thin anyway, why in God's name would she need to lose weight? what is she, a size 6? If that's fat, that is beyond rediculous. Marilyn Monroe was a size 16!

Birdie1483

Someone made a comment on here a few weeks ago about who knew Harry would be the cute one now. Seriously.

sarah0725

I picked 4, but I would also pick 1. Don't most celebrities care what people think of them? I feel like that's kind of part of being a celebrity.

And LVB, I'm interested in the wedding because 1) I'm mildly interested in anything to do with weddings these days anyway, 2) Kate Middleton is purdy, and also there's something kind of romantic about the possibility that William may in fact be marrying for love and not for whatever warped bullshit led to his parents' marriage, and 3) the memorabilia is AWESOME and hilarious. I'm thinking of collecting some. Seriously, that knitted royal family? That is pure lunacy. And awesome. I can't imagine what kind of nutcase does a project like that without irony.

impslave

I voted #4 because (1) how could I not and (2) I don't know how I feel about what people may think of me.

There's a part of me that likes to think I don't care, whether I'm famous or not.  But then, there's the part of me that busted ass to lose weight for the wedding, and again just before the honeymoon so I wouldn't embarrass myself while wearing beach clothes.

Regarding the royal wedding, I've been hooked on the royals since 1981 and I had my mom wake me up at 4am to watch Charles and Diana get married (I was 14).  They're like the ultimate reality show.  Yup, I'm planning on setting my DVR for this one, BBC America's coverage should be awesome.

sarabellam

Impslave, I was 14 when Charles and Diana got married, too! Watched the whole thing, and still have some memorabelia around somewhere (I was in England that summer). I voted 4, but 1 would have worked for me as well.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

Of course I care what others think. I care that people think I'm a kind person who cares about others and genuinely tries to be good. I care that people think I'm a good spouse to my husband and someday I want my kids to realize I'm a good mom.

I don't know about superficial things. I wanted to look great on my wedding day because I'll have those pictures forever. Kate will be seeing footage of her wedding forever, too, and so will millions (probably billions) of others. I would want people to say I look put together and appropriate.

But if entertainment journalists think a size 2 or 4 is "fat" then eff them.

marinabreeze

I picked number 2, but my real opinion might be more like "other."  I do want to lose a little weight, only because I found that I have gained a little and as someone who is big anyway, I'd rather not go upwards anymore than I already have.  The shallow part of me would like to tone up so I will have slightly smaller arms and shoulders, since my dress is strapless (will probably wear a wrap or shawl though anyway). 

At the same time,  It would be unrealistic for me to actually become thin for my wedding which is in less than four months.  I don't think that fat = ghastly and I refuse to go all crazy dieting or feel bad about myself because I'm not going to be a thin bride.  And in general I have a huge issue with this expectation that women lose weight for a wedding.  I think that size is personal and we are how we are due to a lot of factors.  A healthy lifestyle is important, for which weight loss may be a byproduct.  I would want to lose weight in a healthy manner to decrease risk factors for certain illnesses and conditions, and I think that's a good reason.  But the idea that one should lose weight for one day puts a bad taste in my mouth, because it implies that if you have some fat on you (whether you're bigger like me or on the thinner side but not stick thin), you won't be as pretty or radiant as someone who doesn't.

sarah0725

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-care-other-people-think-being-celebrity?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a2247011-476a-45e5-b7a3-ffb1bde5a96bPost:6db009b8-1a7b-4597-9597-ed4e99565505">Re: "I don't care what other people think" and being a celebrity</a>:
[QUOTE]I picked number 2, but my real opinion might be more like "other."  I do want to lose a little weight, only because I found that I have gained a little and as someone who is big anyway, I'd rather not go upwards anymore than I already have.  The shallow part of me would like to tone up so I will have slightly smaller arms and shoulders, since my dress is strapless (will probably wear a wrap or shawl though anyway).  At the same time,  It would be unrealistic for me to actually become thin for my wedding which is in less than four months.  I don't think that fat = ghastly and I refuse to go all crazy dieting or feel bad about myself because I'm not going to be a thin bride.  And in general I have a huge issue with this expectation that women lose weight for a wedding.  I think that size is personal and we are how we are due to a lot of factors.  A healthy lifestyle is important, for which weight loss may be a byproduct.  I would want to lose weight in a healthy manner to decrease risk factors for certain illnesses and conditions, and I think that's a good reason.  But the idea that one should lose weight for one day puts a bad taste in my mouth, because it implies that if you have some fat on you (whether you're bigger like me or on the thinner side but not stick thin), you won't be as pretty or radiant as someone who doesn't.
Posted by marinabreeze[/QUOTE]

I agree with this. I'm on WW right now, and losing, but I did it more because I stepped on the scale a few weeks ago and was shocked at the number. I long ago gave up my dream of being a size 6 bride, though. I figure I'm going to have a happy day no matter what I weigh.

And the idea that Kate Middleton needs to lose any weight is crazy, regardless of whether or not celebrities do or should care what people think of them.

sdavi084

Well, when I bought my dress, it was a tiny bit big (and going a size down was too small). I've always been a fan of curve (within reason), so I opted to actually put on about 10 pounds to fit in my dress perfectly, and I think this is the best I've ever looked. This goes both ways. As long as you're happy and don't become unhealthy, I see no reason not to do what you want. Its your day.

bonnyandtim

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-care-other-people-think-being-celebrity?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a2247011-476a-45e5-b7a3-ffb1bde5a96bPost:d58bdbd7-7ed4-4584-a445-e402d17828fa">Re: "I don't care what other people think" and being a celebrity</a>:
[QUOTE]I voted one, because I care now and would care if I was famous. Whether or not we like it, people judge you based on what you look like, how you dress, how you speak, etc. There is nothing wrong with trying to portray the best image possible.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]

Well said. If we didn't care, we would all wear burlap sacks on our wedding day, & every day for that matter.

Especially poor Kate. I do not envy her. You know every newspaper will talk for months if she has 1 bad hair day or something. Especially if that day is her wedding.