FFF/LFF

kaos16

I still want to add my LFF for this week.  I totally LLF knotties who provide links to the week's biggest trainwrecks so I can be lazy and not have to go back looking for them.  Thank you!!!

daveANDkristen

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:315c0598-d46d-46de-8353-26540459e6a8">Re: FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF/LFF : Opening presents in front of people IS rude, IMO but that doesn't make NOT oepning them right or nice either. My PREFERENCE is to hang out with guests. If other's PREFER to open presents, great.
Posted by OwningAHome1981[/QUOTE]

Late to the party, but your POV is very confusing to me so I had to jump in.

It would be rude to show up to a Christmas party with 20 friends in attendance and give 3 of them a gift to open in front of everyone else.  If I throw someone a party to shower them with gifts (bridal or baby), it is not rude to open those gifts in front of the people who brought them for you.  Where are you getting this from? 

And BTW, your last sentence sounds snobby as hell.  I opened gifts in front of my friends and family who were so kind to attend my shower and we all joked and visited while the opening was going on.  It's not that complicated.  If you didn't want people to give you gifts you shouldn't have a shower.

OwningAHome1981

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:c1d39559-079f-4973-89fb-4a562e289804">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF: I raised this before but I never heard the answer. According to your logic in a previous post about this, you don't want to open presents bc you find it rude to open gifts when others aren't getting them. So, is it also rude to get married in front of people, including some who are single??
Posted by TXKristan[/QUOTE]

It is different. At a shower it is one person, a bunch of gifts and generally a smaller group. At a wedding, especially larger ones, there are things that detract the focus away from the couple getting married, so i feel it's not as like "rub in your face" type of thing. Dancing, bar, extras if you have them. The attention is not focused solely on the bride and groom 100% of the time. At a shower it is you and the gifts and all eyes on you.

That's my OPINION. No one has to agree, but this is how I would answer your question. Also no one is olbigated to attend my wedding so if the idea of me getting married makes them uncomfortable, they are free to decline the invitation.

kmbryant2413

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : It is different. At a shower it is one person, a bunch of gifts and generally a smaller group. At a wedding, especially larger ones, there are things that detract the focus away from the couple getting married, so i feel it's not as like "rub in your face" type of thing. Dancing, bar, extras if you have them. The attention is not focused solely on the bride and groom 100% of the time. At a shower it is you and the gifts and all eyes on you. That's my OPINION. No one has to agree, but this is how I would answer your question. Also no one is olbigated to attend my wedding so if the idea of me getting married makes them uncomfortable, they are free to decline the invitation.
Posted by OwningAHome1981[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>And yet you still refuse to answer any of my questions. Eff this noise. I'm out. </div><div><img style="cursor:pointer;" class="toggle_inline_image constrained_image" src="http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9fox7JX0v1r3ghuk.gif" alt="image" /></div><div>

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misshart00

In Response to Re:FFF/LFF:[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF:In Response to Re:FFF/LFF: I raised this before but I never heard the answer. According to your logic in a previous post about this, you don't want to open presents bc you find it rude to open gifts when others aren't getting them. So, is it also rude to get married in front of people, including some who are single??Posted by TXKristanIt is different. At a shower it is one person, a bunch of gifts and generally a smaller group. At a wedding, especially larger ones, there are things that detract the focus away from the couple getting married, so i feel it's not as like "rub in your face" type of thing. Dancing, bar, extras if you have them. The attention is not focusednbsp;solely on the bride and groom 100 of the time.nbsp;At a shower it is you and the gifts and all eyes on you. That's my OPINION. No one has to agree, but this is how I would answer your question. Also no one is olbigated to attend my wedding so if the idea of me getting married makes them uncomfortable, they are free to decline the invitation. Posted by OwningAHome1981[/QUOTE]

What about the ceremony? There's not really anything to detract from the woman in white walking down the aisle.

OwningAHome1981

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:8a2785e9-804b-4226-b980-70d8a7f0dfd4">Re: FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]OAH, did you not open presents at your birthday parties as a child, either? Because isn't it kind of the same thing? Do you find that rude as well?
Posted by AddieL73[/QUOTE]

I took them home and opened them at home with my family so I could spend more time hanging out with my friends and doing the activity we had planned- bowling, painting etc etc whatever it was. It wasn't rude at the time to me (but i was little) but I would think maybe now it would have been considering too, you don't always know a kid's financial situation. I had friends growing up who literally had nothing.

if i was a parent and I knew a child at my son or daughter's birthday party really had nothing, out of respect for that child, I would make my kid wait til they got home. it is not wrong. This is how I feel about it.

Angelface225

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:503b9580-4bee-416c-bc6d-108bea82ec87">Re: FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF/LFF : You need some popcorn too
Posted by BostonGIrl4732[/QUOTE]

Thanks Boston, you got my back!

Jessa617

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:1864f252-f2ee-48a9-bf32-e2384a5b1d3e">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : It is different. At a shower it is one person, a bunch of gifts and generally a smaller group. At a wedding, especially larger ones, there are things that detract the focus away from the couple getting married, so i feel it's not as like "rub in your face" type of thing. Dancing, bar, extras if you have them. <strong>The attention is not focused solely on the bride and groom 100% of the time. At a shower it is you and the gifts</strong> and all eyes on you. That's my OPINION. No one has to agree, but this is how I would answer your question. Also no one is olbigated to attend my wedding so if the idea of me getting married makes them uncomfortable, they are free to decline the invitation.
Posted by OwningAHome1981[/QUOTE]

This is not true, you are only opening gifts for some of the time. The rest of the time you are mingling etc. I've never been to a shower where the person of honor sat on center stage for the whole duration opening gifts. Your analogy is way off.

ETA- I want to clarify that I meant the person opening gifts for the whole duration <em>of the party. </em>

lisabeats

I'm going to have to slightly divert from this FFF and yet stay on the same track, and flame OAH not for the shower thing because there's just not enough coffee in the world. Instead, I'm going to REflame for SOMEHOW aligning losing your house in a natural disaster to not opening gifts at a giftgiving event. That part alone makes the whole thing BSC. Thank you to whomever reposted part of that thread and reminded me of that little treat.

vanityink

 

kmbryant2413

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:d70b0224-022d-4a3e-909f-d2ff9e906ce4">Re: FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF/LFF : I'm going to have to cosign this. OAH is making me SO. RAGEY. Shifting my focus to LFFing kmb for her great gifs.  A few of them made me LOL and I got a "what are you doing in there" from my boss (aka mom).  oops.
Posted by mrskaiser22[/QUOTE]

<div>daww. :3 thanks. I'm pretty ragey myself, luckily I get to go home an hour early from work. Let the drinking begin!</div>

kmbryant2413

I'm also going to turn around and LFF Jessalyn. I like following her around. She's sensible and straightforward and funny.

rusngl2

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:72be2c14-9451-4c6f-a218-3e677486737b">Re: FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I honestly think more progress would have been made trying to teach a monkey how to do calculus.
Posted by KindaSparkly[/QUOTE]

<div>I LFF this post!! <img id="rg_hi" style="width:251px;height:201px;" class="rg_hi uh_hi" src="https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDbQ1TFFbzNtK6KYLhNs1-hOPRbNF8xij6gTlZeeg9rGblFQNXLw" alt="" width="251" height="201" /></div>

nycrose2013

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:629e95f6-513e-4879-b203-2765dc410fa1">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF: I personally find showers that large to be distasteful. But that may be regional. Where I'm from, everyone has a shower at someone's home with snacks and cake. It's never these grand affairs where people rent a hall. To me, a shower should be the brides closest friends so, in theory, it shouldn't take that long to open gifts. I'm not knocking huge expensive showers, but if you don't even have time to open the gifts, maybe you should have had multiple showers or even a non gift event like a luncheon.
Posted by misshart00[/QUOTE]

A litle late on this, but it insults me. We crow about not throwing your own showers, and as such presumably dont have much pull over the guest list other than if the hostess asks you who your nearest and dearest are. My shower is going to be about 50-60 people in a gorgeous restaurant, and I had nothing to do with it. So how does that make me a AW? How is it distasteful to gracefully accept a lovely party? And how is it bad if you have a very large family/group of close friends? I flame you for being unable to look past your own experience

kmbryant2413

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : A litle late on this, but it insults me. We crow about not throwing your own showers, and as such presumably dont have much pull over the guest list other than if the hostess asks you who your nearest and dearest are. My shower is going to be about 50-60 people in a gorgeous restaurant, and I had nothing to do with it. So how does that make me a AW? How is it distasteful to gracefully accept a lovely party? And how is it bad if you have a very large family/group of close friends? <strong>I flame you for being unable to look past your own experience</strong>
Posted by nycrose2013[/QUOTE]

<div>Woah there. Slow your roll. She said 'to me', and 'I'm not knocking it' and 'I personally find'. She stated those were all her OPINIONS. Don't be so rude and petty as to toe the line of personally attacking someone because they openly ADMITTED they shared an opinion. No no.</div>

Peledreamsofrain

Not to be a bootlicker, but I'm with Knot Irene.  OAH, I'm going to post this in an attempt to clarify the situation so that the poor horse can get buried.  This is not an attack, but an explanation of why the reactions have been the way they are. 

Nobody here would be talking about this if it hadn't been presented in multiple threads as 'Incredibly rude" (your words).  Every. Time. a shower thread comes up, it's the same old merry-go-round, and the same verbage is used.

You are confusing "I don't prefer this" with "etiquette", and it is causing a lot of friction on the etiquette board.  Preference isn't etiquette, and telling people that your preference is in fact etiquette is what is getting people so upset here. 

It's 1000000% ok to feel uncomfortable with opening presents in front of other people, and not prefer to do so.  Because of that, it's also 100000% ok to change your shower into a bridal luncheon, where there will be no such expectation for you to open gifts.

Where the problem lies is to take your gift-opening preference, and to try to apply it to all other people, and lable them rude for participating in an activity that is well established as not rude in the slightest (thousands of birthday parties and showers happen daily without being rude).

We are not challenging your preferences.  We are challenging the fact that you are trying to apply them to everyone else.  That is the true rudeness, and why it is being so ill-recieved. 

Jessa617

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:ec6e9caa-93ef-4982-a22b-913acdc6be08">Re: FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I'm also going to turn around and LFF Jessalyn. I like following her around. She's sensible and straightforward and funny.
Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

Are there TWO Jessalyn's???? I don't know who this funny is you speak of.

ETA- Right back at ya

nycrose2013

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:ce173039-c5da-42ab-aef9-aebdeb6db36a">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : Woah there. Slow your roll. She said 'to me', and 'I'm not knocking it' and 'I personally find'. She stated those were all her OPINIONS. Don't be so rude and petty as to toe the line of personally attacking someone because they openly ADMITTED they shared an opinion. No no.
Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

Oh, please. We tell people all the time their ideas or rude or will insult someone. I told her that her thoughts on this are offending me. Also I hardly think saying that she should look beyond her personal experience equals a "personal attack." Just because PP didnt have a big shower doesn't mean they are distasteful. To be fair, my post was also directed at the few other peoples she was talking to. The poster I responded to didn't solely bother me, but the little conversation did.

People have opinions that honeymoon registries are great, and we tell them they are rude. Poster I replied to had the opinion that big showers are distasteful, and I think that is rude to the (many many) people on here who have bigger showers. I also found it completely contrary to the etiquette that we aren't supposed to be involved in our own showers, and everyone was completely overlooking that by saying " I would have seperate showers" "I would never have a big shower", etc.  Sometimes opinions on here are insulting, and I am free to point that out.

For example, I remember a week or two ago someone said "I am not a dollar store kind of gal." That is her opinion, she doesnt like dollar stores, and a bunch of people jumped on her for it b/c they felt like their choices were insulted. I felt like this was very similar

kmbryant2413

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:590c8968-8727-4498-adb3-eda4c3649239">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : Oh, please. We tell people all the time their ideas or rude or will insult someone. I told her that her thoughts on this are offending me. Also I hardly think saying that she should look beyond her personal experience equals a "personal attack." Just because PP didnt have a big shower doesn't mean they are distasteful. To be fair, my post was also directed at the few other peoples she was talking to. The poster I responded to didn't solely bother me, but the little conversation did. People have opinions that honeymoon registries are great, and we tell them they are rude. Poster I replied to had the opinion that big showers are distasteful, and I think that is rude to the (many many) people on here who have bigger showers. I also found it completely contrary to the etiquette that we aren't supposed to be involved in our own showers, and everyone was completely overlooking that by saying " I would have seperate showers" "I would never have a big shower", etc.  Sometimes opinions on here are insulting, and I am free to point that out. For example, I remember a week or two ago someone said "I am not a dollar store kind of gal." That is her opinion, she doesnt like dollar stores, and a bunch of people jumped on her for it b/c they felt like their choices were insulted. I felt like this was very similar
Posted by nycrose2013[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Don't 'oh, please!' me. Seriously. </div><div>
</div><div>You, like OAH seem to be confusing personal preference and opinion with etiquette. The difference between what she stated and something being wrong here is that she's not going around pushing her opinion and preferences on others and calling it etiquette. I don't like veal, but I don't try to get the people around me to stop eating it. She stated a preference that was completely her own, and did not try to push it on anyone. You were out of line telling her that she couldn't see past her own preferences.</div><div>
</div><div>edit: I can't spells.</div><div>
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steign

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:1f14055e-88fc-4ffa-abca-89980ee50e82">Re: FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Not to be a bootlicker, but I'm with Knot Irene.  OAH, I'm going to post this in an attempt to clarify the situation so that the poor horse can get buried.  This is not an attack, but an explanation of why the reactions have been the way they are.  Nobody here would be talking about this if it hadn't been presented in multiple threads as 'Incredibly rude" (your words).  Every. Time. a shower thread comes up, it's the same old merry-go-round, and the same verbage is used. You are confusing "I don't prefer this" with "etiquette", and it is causing a lot of friction on the etiquette board.  Preference isn't etiquette, and telling people that your preference is in fact etiquette is what is getting people so upset here.  It's 1000000% ok to feel uncomfortable with opening presents in front of other people, and not prefer to do so.  Because of that, it's also 100000% ok to change your shower into a bridal luncheon, where there will be no such expectation for you to open gifts. Where the problem lies is to take your gift-opening preference, and to try to apply it to all other people, and lable them rude for participating in an activity that is well established as not rude in the slightest (thousands of birthday parties and showers happen daily without being rude). We are not challenging your preferences.  We are challenging the fact that you are trying to apply them to everyone else.  That is the true rudeness, and why it is being so ill-recieved. 
Posted by Peledreamsofrain[/QUOTE]


Well said.

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misshart00

In Response to Re:FFF/LFF:[QUOTE]Not to be a bootlicker, but I'm with Knot Irene.nbsp; OAH, I'm going to post this in an attempt to clarify the situation so that thenbsp;poor horse can get buried.nbsp; This is not an attack, but an explanation of why the reactions have been the way they are.nbsp; Nobody here would be talking about this if it hadn't been presented in multiple threads as 'Incredibly rude" your words.nbsp; Every. Time. a shower thread comes up, it's the same old merrygoround, and the same verbage is used.You are confusing "I don't prefer this" with "etiquette", and it is causing a lot of friction on thenbsp;etiquette board.nbsp; Preference isn't etiquette, and telling people that your preference is in fact etiquette is what is getting people so upset here.nbsp; It's 1000000 ok to feel uncomfortable with opening presents in front of other people, and not prefer to do so.nbsp; Because of that, it's also 100000 ok to change your shower into a bridal luncheon, where there will be no such expectation for you to open gifts.Where the problem lies is to take your giftopening preference, and to try to apply it to all other people, and lable them rude for participating in an activity that is well established as not rude in the slightest thousands of birthday parties and showers happen daily without being rude.We are not challenging your preferences.nbsp; We are challenging the fact that you are trying to apply them to everyone else.nbsp; That is the true rudeness, and why it is being so illrecieved.nbsp; Posted by Peledreamsofrain[/QUOTE]

Totally agree with pele on this one. I think she even said this in a thread the other day but it got passed over.

rsanna

All sorts of crazy up in here.  I'm going to LFF angel for the cute cat gif on the previous page. 

And I would flame OAH but I don't want to get pulled into this crock pot of insanity (especially since mine has no relation to the current conversation). So I will vague-knot.

nycrose2013

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:0442e25e-bc22-407d-9b3a-e2668e389ff4">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : Don't 'oh, please!' me. Seriously.  You, like OAH seem to be confusing personal preference and opinion with etiquette. The difference between what she stated and something being wrong here is that she's not going around pushing her opinion and preferences on others and calling it etiquette. I don't like veal, but I don't try to get the people around me to stop eating it. She stated a preference that was completely her own, and did not try to push it on anyone. You were out of line telling her that she couldn't see past her own preferences. edit: I can't spells.
Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

She stated her preference, I stated that her mindset is hurtful, which it is because it offended me and other brides who have nothing to do with their big showers. We both said our opinions, so why am I wrong for saying she should look beyond her experience? Her opinion is that big showers are distasteful, mine is that people who think big showers are distasteful should look beyond their own experience. She has an opinion of me as a "big-shower-haver" I have an opinion of her as "someone who doesn't realize there is no limit on loved ones."  I also think it is rude that she thinks brides should be involved in limiting the size of their shower so as to meet some ideal number of people that she/you/other people in that mini thread find acceptable.  I would never suggest to my generous hostess that my shower is too big. That would be a massive insult.

Also I didn't realize you were the arbiter of what is out of line. I'll be sure to run all my feelings by you in the future to make sure they are ok.

steign

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:d395ef67-1e09-4f50-8248-3557b37eaef8">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : She stated her preference, I stated that her mindset is hurtful, which it is because it offended me and other brides who have nothing to do with their big showers. We both said our opinions, so why am I wrong for saying she should look beyond her experience? Her opinion is that big showers are distasteful, mine is that people who think big showers are distasteful should look beyond their own experience. She has an opinion of me as a "big-shower-haver" I have an opinion of her as "someone who doesn't realize there is no limit on loved ones."  I also think it is rude that she thinks brides should be involved in limiting the size of their shower so as to meet some ideal number of people that she/you/other people in that mini thread find acceptable.  I would never suggest to my generous hostess that my shower is too big. That would be a massive insult. Also I didn't realize you were the arbiter of what is out of line. I'll be sure to run all my feelings by you in the future to make sure they are ok.
Posted by nycrose2013[/QUOTE]

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kmbryant2413

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:d395ef67-1e09-4f50-8248-3557b37eaef8">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : She stated her preference, I stated that her mindset is hurtful, which it is because it offended me and other brides who have nothing to do with their big showers. We both said our opinions, <strong>so why am I wrong for saying she should look beyond her experience?</strong> Her opinion is that big showers are distasteful, mine is that people who think big showers are distasteful should look beyond their own experience. She has an opinion of me as a "big-shower-haver" I have an opinion of her as "someone who doesn't realize there is no limit on loved ones."  I also think it is rude that she thinks brides should be involved in limiting the size of their shower so as to meet some ideal number of people that she/you/other people in that mini thread find acceptable.  I would never suggest to my generous hostess that my shower is too big. That would be a massive insult. <strong>Also I didn't realize you were the arbiter of what is out of line. I'll be sure to run all my feelings by you in the future to make sure they are ok.</strong>
Posted by nycrose2013[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Your wording is important here. Flaming someone because they '<strong>can't' </strong>see past personal experience is much better than asking someone to look past themselves. It was just rude. </div><div>
</div><div>As for the second bold, I'm just going to leave that alone. Have a wonderful weekend.

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Peledreamsofrain

In Response to Re:FFF/LFF:[QUOTE]Pele wins the thread! Posted by Liatris2010[/QUOTE]

I did? Oh yay! I never win anything! It's big too! :p

kmbryant2413

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:21623f39-5807-415c-a1f6-e6a4f78b0c8b">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF :
Posted by steign[/QUOTE]

<div>People tell me that I always have good gifs, but the truth is I learned from steign. :P</div>

rachelm13

Mmmm Ryan Gosling.....

steign

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_ffflff-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c65678b6-ef12-4474-8f3a-7c58236869abPost:d70727a8-b4b7-46ee-8a9e-042b15d5fb35">Re:FFF/LFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF : People tell me that I always have good gifs, but the truth is I learned from steign. :P
Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

I try my best but, I have trouble resisting any Ryan or Jake gifs.

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StephJean83

In Response to Re:FFF/LFF:[QUOTE]In Response to Re:FFF/LFF:In Response to Re:FFF/LFF:If OAH is so offended by prayer, why would she have prayer at her ceremony? You can have a completely prayer free ceremony that is still very lovely.Posted by StephJean83I'm not having any prayer. Our ceremony and reception are 100 nonreligious. Posted by OwningAHome1981

That's your call. To say that prayer does not belong at any wedding reception is tacky. There are plenty of women of faith here. Posted by TXKristan[/QUOTE]

I agree with Kristan. I always pray before I eat, mostly in silence, especially when I am with FH's family. They also pray before every meal, even if it is just FMIL and I having bowls of soup, they are Lutheran and I was raised Catholic. Our traditional meal prayers are different but at our wedding, our officiant will say a blessing before we eat. I have never attended a wedding without a blessing.