In my recent job search process, I found that the salaries I was quoted included benefits, whereas the salaries my FI was quoted did not. So he thought he would earn more, but when he filled out the paperwork, he found out that all sorts of things were being deducted from his ultimate paycheck, whereas I made the actual amount.
I have a feeling the recruiters were trying different tactics on us based on what women and men look for in a job. Men want the money, women want the security (retirment and health/disability insurance). So, last year, we thought my FI would out-earn me by 30%, and it turns out that we make the same amount (actually, I recently received a raise, so now I earn more).
so this might have been a case of discrimination. but i think the majority of discrepancy comes from the other factors.
and honestly, women are their own worst enemy! my sister in law was pushed into accounting by her parents becuase they told her it was a job she could de at home when she had her kids (put up a shingle and do taxes). i know NUMEROUS women that went into the field of teaching, because they wanted the cushy schedule that woudl coincide with their own kids school schedule. IMO, you shouldnt select a career at 18 based on how it will affect your family life especially since you dont know if you will even end up having kids! i think many smart, intelligent women dont follow their skills and dreams becuase they know in the end, if they have kids, the bulk of the responsibility will fall to them and they will always be sacrificing in their careers as a result. its almost like they aim low, to avoid failure.
Unfortunatly, I followed my dreams hardcore, which results in me being poor But a man in my field too:( BUT he does have that extra 2 grand! Got to go. It's been fun.
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HD, if they are flat out not hiring women for that position, that is absolutely gender discrimination and you can get them in trouble for that.
Oh, they won't come out and "officially" say that, but there has NEVER been a woman in that job position. We have heard a couple of off the records comments about it though. Nothing that you could prove.
1st pic of us together. Apparently I thought something was funny. ~Holly and Jeff~ 232 Made the cut!
96 Ready to party! 44 Have better things to do! 92 Are going to cause me to have a stroke!
Unfortunatly, I followed my dreams hardcore, which results in me being poor But a man in my field too:( BUT he does have that extra 2 grand! Got to go. It's been fun.
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mica, that's a good point. a woman who takes a family medical plan is going to cost the company more money than a single man (or woman) who takes an individual plan. so while base pay might be less, when you factor in the health plan as part of the overall salary, which it is, the pay could be the same or more.
i, too, earn more than my husband, but i work a hell of a lot more hours. hours i wouldnt be able to do if i had a kid. if i had a kid, i never would have accepted my recent promotion. prime example.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_work-type-of-question?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:e4461fc2-3ea2-4db5-9332-a765b570c649Post:0d250ec3-1e42-47ce-a73a-54c27f60ea5c">Re: Work type of question</a>: [QUOTE]I think I would wait. If you take the new duties and are amazing with them, you'll be in a better position to negotiate a raise after you've demonstrated your success. Does that make sense? Posted by Night_Sprite[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. Additionally, I agree that he might mean the next fiscal year. Or he could be waiting for the time when he reviews all the other employees.
Also, money is nice, and yes you probably deserve some more, but don't discount the extra duties as their own reward. It's more work, but it's also more experience and looks good ona resume, and prepares you for more types of jobs.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_work-type-of-question?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:e4461fc2-3ea2-4db5-9332-a765b570c649Post:2a7b0ce7-ae81-4485-a3d2-3dbda1fd1565">Re: Work type of question</a>: [QUOTE]Read this: <a href="http://www.gimi.us/CLUTE_INSTITUTE/ORLANDO_2010/Article%20346.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gimi.us/CLUTE_INSTITUTE/ORLANDO_2010/Article%20346.pdf</a> and this: <a href="http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/why-can2019t-a-woman-be-more-like-a-man/" rel="nofollow">http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/why-can2019t-a-woman-be-more-like-a-man/</a> Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]
That second article makes me sick. Applying Title IX to academics. That's ridiculous. These people need an economics lesson.
Re: Work type of question
I have a feeling the recruiters were trying different tactics on us based on what women and men look for in a job. Men want the money, women want the security (retirment and health/disability insurance). So, last year, we thought my FI would out-earn me by 30%, and it turns out that we make the same amount (actually, I recently received a raise, so now I earn more).
and honestly, women are their own worst enemy! my sister in law was pushed into accounting by her parents becuase they told her it was a job she could de at home when she had her kids (put up a shingle and do taxes). i know NUMEROUS women that went into the field of teaching, because they wanted the cushy schedule that woudl coincide with their own kids school schedule. IMO, you shouldnt select a career at 18 based on how it will affect your family life especially since you dont know if you will even end up having kids! i think many smart, intelligent women dont follow their skills and dreams becuase they know in the end, if they have kids, the bulk of the responsibility will fall to them and they will always be sacrificing in their careers as a result. its almost like they aim low, to avoid failure.
Oh, they won't come out and "officially" say that, but there has NEVER been a woman in that job position. We have heard a couple of off the records comments about it though. Nothing that you could prove.
~Holly and Jeff~
i, too, earn more than my husband, but i work a hell of a lot more hours. hours i wouldnt be able to do if i had a kid. if i had a kid, i never would have accepted my recent promotion. prime example.
[QUOTE]I think I would wait. If you take the new duties and are amazing with them, you'll be in a better position to negotiate a raise after you've demonstrated your success. Does that make sense?
Posted by Night_Sprite[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. Additionally, I agree that he might mean the next fiscal year. Or he could be waiting for the time when he reviews all the other employees.
Also, money is nice, and yes you probably deserve some more, but don't discount the extra duties as their own reward. It's more work, but it's also more experience and looks good ona resume, and prepares you for more types of jobs.
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[QUOTE]Read this: <a href="http://www.gimi.us/CLUTE_INSTITUTE/ORLANDO_2010/Article%20346.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gimi.us/CLUTE_INSTITUTE/ORLANDO_2010/Article%20346.pdf</a> and this: <a href="http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/why-can2019t-a-woman-be-more-like-a-man/" rel="nofollow">http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/why-can2019t-a-woman-be-more-like-a-man/</a>
Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]
That second article makes me sick. Applying Title IX to academics. That's ridiculous. These people need an economics lesson.