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Poll: Would you ever consider including live animals/creatures in your wedding?

Aside from having your dog as the ring bearer (which I also think is weird), would you ever want to include live animals (doves, butterflies, fish, etc.) in any aspect of your wedding?  Feel free to explain below what animals/creatures and how they were used.
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    edited December 2011
    No way, I like animals too much to torture them
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    edited December 2011
    Absolutely not, and since I didn't chime in on the thread below, I really don't see a functional purpose. Pictures? I just don't get it...
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    uppereastgirluppereastgirl member
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    edited December 2011
    I voted for "No way ... that's weird" but that's not really my issue.  I wouldn't do it because it is cruel. 

    We also didn't select any menu items with veal or foie gras in them...

    I would be EXTREMELY upset if I attended a wedding at which animals were being harmed.  I wouldn't count out tears.  I've definitely cried when explaining to a friend why it wouldn't be "cute" to have fish centerpieces at her wedding.
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    I don't support using fish in centerpieces, or releasing butterflies. Doves are an iffy call for me, but I always err on the side of caution by voting not to include them when someone asks about them. I'm also not a fan of horses pulling carriages, but I don't think that's on the same level as fish centerpieces or butterfly releases.

    I think that in some cases, including a pet dog in the wedding isn't a bad thing, but there are just so many factors where it could go wrong or not work out.

    I answered "special snowflake" because I became friendly with a girl on the national boards who had donkeys at her wedding a few years ago. She had a fiesta-themed cocktail hour at a western ranch venue, and the donkeys carried baskets with drinks in them, and were cared for by trainers the whole time. I thought it was a neat idea.

    I've seen other bios where brides have ridden their horses to the aisle.
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    VanessaB24VanessaB24 member
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    edited December 2011
    we aren't using doves,fish or any other animal. But i think its a cute idea to have the dog.
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    edited December 2011
    Uppereast - Funny you mention veal!  Back when I was in elementary school I read something about how veal is "made" and even though stuffed veal used to be one of my favorite foods, I gave it up on the spot.  I also just recently stopped eating tuna because I rented a DVD and saw a preview for a documentary called The Cove about how dolphins are slaughtered by tuna companies.  I know that dolphin-safe tuna supposedly exists, but I'm growing more and more cynical and skeptical about what companies claim. 

    And yes, I'm totally the epitome of a double standard because I still eat burgers and steak and chicken and all of that... it's just that when I see something and it starts to pull at my heart, I feel like I have to make a change in my life (or in this case, my eating habits) in some way.

    PS - Please don't flame me as I am, in no way, telling anyone not to eat veal or tuna or anything else like that.
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    edited December 2011
    Everyones allowed their own preferences... We have a bird and considered using her but she also loves people and loves to chat..so we knew she would be too chatty during the ceremony.  
    Other then this - I'm gonna say no, but not because of the cruelty issues - more because I think it is weird and unnecessary.
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    JulepheniaJulephenia member
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    Can't see the Poll at temp job today, but other than IF I still had my dog... no.

    Mostly cruel, unless they are "working" animals (as in, ones that are domisticated, used to people, and so on). As I said, if I still had a dog, I'd probably find a way to have it with me, but that's it.
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    DandT1206DandT1206 member
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    I wanted to release butterflies outside the church, but opted against it b/c it wasn't sure if all my guest would be comfortable do that.  Other than that.... I wouldn't include animals in my wedding.

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    edited December 2011
    Peaches and uppereast - I'm the same way. I will eat steak/chicken, but not rabbit, veal, lamb, bison, etc.

    I even got really upset at a wedding where there was a dead pig on display. I didn't get close enough to see if the pig was being cut into as ham (and I do eat ham) but I definitely do not want to be reminded that ham was once a cute little pig and having the dead animal on display just flat out upsets me. As a result, the venue(s) that did this is a place I rather not frequent and would NEVER book an event there.

    And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't doves in dove releases really pigeons that "know" their way back home? I don't know if that means that I would do it, but I'm not sure if that is "cruel" or not. Fish centerpieces - yes, cruel. But I'm not sure about the pigeons. Something to think about.
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    edited December 2011
    TuffysMommie - See, this is where I'm a complete hypocrite... I'm Greek, so I eat lamb at practically every holiday and FI is Latino so having a whole roasted pig (head, body, and all) at a party is totally commonplace too, haha.  Ugh... there should be a picture of me next to the term "double standard" in the dictionary!
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    edited December 2011
    The use of butterflies or doves after the ceremony or of fish in centerpieces just reeks of cruelty to me.  I'm really into animals though - I've been a vegetarian for over 10 years and volunteer at an animal shelter - so I'm against anything that even hints at mistreatment of animals.
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    edited December 2011
    I did special snowflake. It's not really anything with our ceremony but our dog will be at my moms house with me getting ready. We are getting him a little tux to wear and he will get a few pictures with my photographer.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.weddings.com/Sites/Weddings/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_new-jersey_poll-would-ever-consider-including-live-animalscreatures-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:90Discussion:7147d72f-92ca-4c24-9622-4c645039df46Post:5819978a-e127-4865-834e-578a49628f9f">Re: Poll: Would you ever consider including live animals/creatures in your wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]And yes, I'm totally the epitome of a double standard because I still eat burgers and steak and chicken and all of that... it's just that when I see something and it starts to pull at my heart, I feel like I have to make a change in my life (or in this case, my eating habits) in some way.
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    I'm like that too -- I eat chicken, but I don't eat mammals (beef, pork, etc.).  I wish I could go full vegetarian but I'm a really picky eater so I would be scared that I wouldn't get enough protein and such.  But I only eat chicken once or maybe twice a week anyway.  It is interesting to see the new focus of the environmental effect of not eating meat every day though too -- I'm glad I'm doing something to help the environment.

    I can't even feed my cats some of these animals.  We'll buy lamb and venison and rabbit wet food for them, but I can never pick those cans out of the pantry.  My husband has to feed them those.  And when I buy chicken, I try to buy humanely raised whenever possible (hard when eating out).  I figure making some smart choices helps at least a bit.

    I'm fine with everyone else eating what they want though.  
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    edited December 2011
    Eh, it is what it is. 

    I have tried lamb, and I don't really like it, so it gives me more of a reason not to eat it, ya know? (But I do have clothing/boots/shoes that are shearling.)

    I wouldn't be a good guest at a pig roast or a luau. And that's where I become a hypocrite - I do like bacon, ham and taylor ham! But, I don't want to see the poor little guy as an animal. I just want it in "steak" form where I don't think about what it was before it was my dinner.


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    edited December 2011
    I said Special Snowflake. I think to each his own. I wouldn't use animals but I wouldn't be offended if someone released butterflies at a wedding I was at.

    We have a beagle and I swear, if FI could, he would find a way to get that dog into the wedding!
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    edited December 2011
    The butterfly releasing is horrible to me, can't stand it, fish in centerpieces, I must sa y I have never seen it, but wouldn't like it.
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    edited December 2011
    I just googled butterfly release and this is the first one I clicked on..these are the instructions for releasing for a warm weather wedding.

    http://www.swallowtailfarms.com/Instructions%20warm.pdf

    (hope you can see it)

    FREEZE?!?!?! Ew, people are NUTS sorry.
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    jchristeljchristel member
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    edited December 2011
    The original thread upset me because I sat there thinking about poor dead butterflies and how they could die so that someone could have nice pictures.  I understand that the intention is not to harm them, but since there is a risk involved, I can't imagine anyone being OK with that.  But, I'm probably overly sensitive to animals, like some of the PPs, I don't eat mammals and have been close to tears at a bbq with a pig roast.  I also have a hard time at the grocery store when there is a lobster tank, I run right by and try not to look. I don't even kill bugs I find in the house.  I catch them and put them outside. I just have a tough time being responsible for the death of a living thing.   I consider myself a hypocrite because I somehow justify eating poultry and fish.  But living in a rural area where I see turkeys walking around on occasion is making that harder too.  I'm just a giant baby.
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    edited December 2011
    Oh my god!  I totally forgot about the lobster thing!  I hate going past lobster tanks (as much as I hate going past the pet stores in the mall that you know are puppy mills)!  I'm totally going to sound crazy, but anytime I'm in someone's kitchen when they're boiling live lobsters, I swear I hear them screaming.  Totally impossible, haha, but I've convinced myself of it... and I hate being able to hear them scratching and moving inside the pot.  Needless to say, I haven't eaten lobster or crab in over ten years.

    Aghhh... I'm getting teary-eyed just thinking about it.
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    edited December 2011
    I'm a vegetarian, guys. I don't eat anything with a face. I have my own reasons and research but I see NOTHING wrong with using butterflies, fish, doves, horses, etc. (Okay maybe the freezing butterfly thing is weird). They're still alive afterwards, aren't they???

    I'm considering fish for centerpieces, have seen butterflies at weddings, and think doves are a wonderful tradition. They LIVE afterwards, you know. It's no more cruel than putting them in cages at home/PetCo/etc.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_new-jersey_poll-would-ever-consider-including-live-animalscreatures-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:90Discussion:7147d72f-92ca-4c24-9622-4c645039df46Post:c69b2770-cc1b-4f57-a45f-4d9754e1834d">Re: Poll: Would you ever consider including live animals/creatures in your wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Oh my god!  I totally forgot about the lobster thing!  I hate going past lobster tanks (as much as I hate going past the pet stores in the mall that you know are puppy mills)!  I'm totally going to sound crazy, but anytime I'm in someone's kitchen when they're boiling live lobsters, I swear I hear them screaming.  Totally impossible, haha, but I've convinced myself of it... and I hate being able to hear them scratching and moving inside the pot.  Needless to say, I haven't eaten lobster or crab in over ten years. <strong>Aghhh... I'm getting teary-eyed just thinking about it.</strong>
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    </div><div>I'm right there with you.  Quick!  Someone post about their FI's bachelor party!! :)

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    Christine - I think the problem that most of us have with it is that many of the butterflies, fish, and doves/pigeons DON'T live afterwards or, at the very least, they get completely discombobulated when they're suddenly released into an environment that they're not used to.  Fact of of the matter is that many of the fish and butterflies don't even live through the ceremony or reception (nevermind surviving afterwards).
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_new-jersey_poll-would-ever-consider-including-live-animalscreatures-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:90Discussion:7147d72f-92ca-4c24-9622-4c645039df46Post:9616dfa6-88f1-4828-a2c7-5ba059acd413">Re: Poll: Would you ever consider including live animals/creatures in your wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Poll: Would you ever consider including live animals/creatures in your wedding? : I'm right there with you.  Quick!  Someone post about their FI's bachelor party!! :)
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    HAHAHAHA!
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    uppereastgirluppereastgirl member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.weddings.com/Sites/Weddings/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_new-jersey_poll-would-ever-consider-including-live-animalscreatures-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:90Discussion:7147d72f-92ca-4c24-9622-4c645039df46Post:a2570965-fdbc-4c25-b2b7-15aea9d5f314">Re: Poll: Would you ever consider including live animals/creatures in your wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'm a vegetarian, guys. I don't eat anything with a face. I have my own reasons and research but I see NOTHING wrong with using butterflies, fish, doves, horses, etc. (Okay maybe the freezing butterfly thing is weird). They're still alive afterwards, aren't they??? I'm considering fish for centerpieces, have seen butterflies at weddings, and think doves are a wonderful tradition. They LIVE afterwards, you know. It's no more cruel than putting them in cages at home/PetCo/etc.
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    This is obviously an issue on which people draw their lines all over the place, and I can respect that... But if you froze me alive; put me in a box (breaking one of my arms in the process); shipped me in the back of a truck/plane to a climate I may not be used to, where I don't know where to find my food or friends; and then opened the box so you could take pictures of what happened when I was freed, and left me to find my way back to where I'm supposed to be (hundreds or thousands of miles away)... I may still be *alive*, but I think it would be fair for people to say that what you did to me was mean and unnecessary and not at all entertaining.

    Please please please don't do fish for centerpieces.  How do you know that someone at each table will want to/be able to take them home safely?  (Are you providing safe closed containers for the car ride home?)  What happens if they don't all get homes?  What happens if they go to homes that don't know how to take care of them?  What happens if one dies during the reception (which is common, and a dead animal in your centerpiece may ruin dinnertime conversation)?  What happens if one of your friends is a jackass when drunk and starts doing something mean to the fish because he thinks it is funny?  Or if someone by mistake knocks over the centerpiece, or spills something in it, or taps it too much and scares the fish? 
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    I think the butterflies and birds are just a waste of money.  I don't really think it's worth it for your wallets or for the animal's safety for maybe one photography.  On the other hand, if our wedding was outside my big old doofus would be there in a heartbeat!  
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    I didn't consider using animals in my wedding, but to be honest, I never really had a problem with it until I saw everyone flipping out about it on the boards.  When someone first mentioned the evil fish centerpieces, I thought it sounded like a cute idea.  After everyone thoroughly explained how these things are cruel to animals and could even result in dead ones being a part of your big day, I think it's a terrible idea.
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_new-jersey_poll-would-ever-consider-including-live-animalscreatures-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:90Discussion:7147d72f-92ca-4c24-9622-4c645039df46Post:f714501f-6b42-4c2b-bb82-cce1e6898b04">Re: Poll: Would you ever consider including live animals/creatures in your wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]No way, I like animals too much to torture them
    Posted by kathygrzywnowicz[/QUOTE]

    <div>Same here
    <div>I put special snowflake because I don't think it is weird, I think it is cruel.</div></div>
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