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Self Unifying Marriages/Quaker Marriages Anyone?

So is anyone else having a "Quaker wedding?"  Also known as a self-unified marriage, Quaker weddings are only legal in a few states, including PA.  Quaker weddings were initally started because Quakers did not want legal oversite into their marriages, so the states allowed the Quakers to marry themselves by both the bride and the groom signing a form, with two witnesses also signing, no justice of the peace or legal officiant was necessary.

In 2007 a judge in PA ruled that if the courts were going to honor this form of marriage for Quakers, then they would have to honor it for all couples, regardless of background or faith.  While not all states perform Quaker marriages, all states are required to honor Quaker marriages that have occured in other states.  Thus when we come back to Virginia after the wedding our marriage will be honored.

When my partner first read about self-uified marriages we both knew it was for us.  Neither of us wanted a religious person to oversee, and we wanted something more  non-traditional.  Self-unified wedding sounds perfect for us.  We are having a friend that is not ordained serving as an "MP" of our ceremony, during which we are planning on signing our self unifying form. 


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Re: Self Unifying Marriages/Quaker Marriages Anyone?

  • I'm not doing this, but I've heard of it and it sounds like a great option.
  • We are considering it. Both of us are Heathens and aren't sure we will find an officiant we trust, and who will use the ceremony he and I wrote for our Kindred.
  • We're doing it and having my fiance's sister lead the ceremony. Hoping for no hiccups when we apply for the license.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_pennsylvania-pittsburgh_self-unifying-marriagesquaker-marriages-anyone?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:116Discussion:3511bf9b-c349-4359-9199-c31e03d30093Post:c9fef538-c91a-4b25-8636-95402078da92">Re: Self Unifying Marriages/Quaker Marriages Anyone?</a>:
    [QUOTE]We're doing it and having my fiance's sister lead the ceremony. Hoping for no hiccups when we apply for the license.
    Posted by Flowerstar1023[/QUOTE]
    I can't imagine there being any hiccups.  From my understanding, once you sign your self unifying form (which must be signed and witnessed within 2 weeks of receiving it), and return it to the state, that the state will then automatically mail you your marriage license.  
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  • We did this. The license is actually attached with the seal on it the day you pick it up. We went to Greensburg to get ours and the woman there knew all about it.
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  • I have read about people having an issue with obtaining one from Allegheny county (the one downtown). But from what I've read, you can obtain a PA licence in any county, not just the one you live (or will be married in).
  • Heathen - that's true, you can obtain a license from any country in the state (thank goodness!)
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    [QUOTE]I have read about people having an issue with obtaining one from Allegheny county (the one downtown). But from what I've read, you can obtain a PA licence in any county, not just the one you live (or will be married in).
    Posted by HeathenSwan[/QUOTE]
    Heather, that is concerning as I was hoping to get my licesnce through Allegheny county.  I know my partner allready called Allegheny county and the person he talked to seemed to be knowledgable on self-unifing marriages nor did they give us grief on us being from out of state (Virginia).  Hopefully when we go to actually apply for one we don't have any issues.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Self Unifying Marriages/Quaker Marriages Anyone? : Heather, that is concerning as I was hoping to get my licesnce through Allegheny county.  I know my partner allready called Allegheny county and the person he talked to seemed to be knowledgable on self-unifing marriages nor did they give us grief on us being from out of state (Virginia).  Hopefully when we go to actually apply for one we don't have any issues.
    Posted by ChristineNB[/QUOTE]

    Allegheny county actually charges something like $30-$40 more for a marriage license than most of the surrounding counties. You might want to think about that when you apply. I think we only paid $45 at Westmoreland county courthouse and Allegheny is $70-80.
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