Kim Kardashian and the humongous, obnoxious, super-huge, very-expensive ring-part deux.

radleyboo

I cannot stand anything Kardashian, mostly for the same reasons so many people love them.  From Kim's annoying baby-talk voice to Bruce Jenner's wax-figure-of-himself face, it all makes my flesh crawl.  At any rate, I follow People magazine on FB (don't judge me, I'm too cheap to actually subscribe), and this popped up:  

http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2013/10/22/kim-kardashian-engagement-ring-kanye-west/

How is she ever going to top the ridiculousness of her first wedding?  I'm thinking a herd of live unicorns.  Everything else has been done.  

KatWAG

radleyboo said:

I cannot stand anything Kardashian, mostly for the same reasons so many people love them.  From Kim's annoying baby-talk voice to Bruce Jenner's wax-figure-of-himself face, it all makes my flesh crawl.  At any rate, I follow People magazine on FB (don't judge me, I'm too cheap to actually subscribe), and this popped up:  

http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2013/10/22/kim-kardashian-engagement-ring-kanye-west/

How is she ever going to top the ridiculousness of her first wedding?  I'm thinking a herd of live unicorns.  Everything else has been done.  

That was actually her second wedding. This will be her third marriage to Kanye. And I also find them super annoying.

radleyboo

She was married before the basketball player?  I seriously had no idea.  I'd Google it, but don't care enough to bother.  

MrsLillyG

@radleyboo I feel very sad that I know this is her third marriage.  She married in vegas when she was a teenager.

Maggie0829

I really hope that she learned from her last wedding that maybe it would be best to tone things down into a smaller, non-televised affair.  But I doubt it.

The two biggest egos in the world are getting married...this may just be the beginning of the apocalypse.

ETA:  And Kanye West looks like a dumb ass fool with his "PLEEEASE MARRY MEEEE!" message up on the jumbotron.

kitty8403

I can't stand these people either, but I stumbled across that story right after reading THIS. Ugh.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/02/women_are_buying_their_own_engagement_rings_why_not_just_skip_the_tradition.html

KatWAG

radleyboo said:

She was married before the basketball player?  I seriously had no idea.  I'd Google it, but don't care enough to bother.  

She marreid a music producer when she was 20. It lasted 4 years.

radleyboo

Maggie0829 said:

I really hope that she learned from her last wedding that maybe it would be best to tone things down into a smaller, non-televised affair.  But I doubt it.

The two biggest egos in the world are getting married...this may just be the beginning of the apocalypse.

Exactly.  

My hunch is that this marriage will be about as successful as HealthCare.Gov.  

KatWAG

radleyboo said:

Maggie0829 said:

I really hope that she learned from her last wedding that maybe it would be best to tone things down into a smaller, non-televised affair.  But I doubt it.

The two biggest egos in the world are getting married...this may just be the beginning of the apocalypse.

Exactly.  

My hunch is that this marriage will be about as successful as HealthCare.Gov.  

love this!

Maggie0829

kitty8403 said:

I can't stand these people either, but I stumbled across that story right after reading THIS. Ugh. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/02/women_are_buying_their_own_engagement_rings_why_not_just_skip_the_tradition.html

I didn't purchase my engagement ring but I did help to buy my own wedding band.

radleyboo

Maggie0829 said:

I really hope that she learned from her last wedding that maybe it would be best to tone things down into a smaller, non-televised affair.  But I doubt it.

The two biggest egos in the world are getting married...this may just be the beginning of the apocalypse.

ETA:  And Kanye West looks like a dumb ass fool with his "PLEEEASE MARRY MEEEE!" message up on the jumbotron.

He did it at a ball game on a jumbotron?  Are you kidding me?  There was ONE THING I told H about our proposal, that if he asked me at some sporting event on a jumbotron with an effing mascot dancing around, he'd better ask someone else.  What happened to proposals being personal and intimate?  Oh, that's right.  Kimye can't do anything without including their 'adoring' public.  How else would they stay on the cover of magazines without stunts like this, as she is completely irrelevant and he's a talentless megalomaniac?

kitty8403

Maggie0829 said:

kitty8403 said:

I can't stand these people either, but I stumbled across that story right after reading THIS. Ugh.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/02/women_are_buying_their_own_engagement_rings_why_not_just_skip_the_tradition.html

I didn't purchase my engagement ring but I did help to buy my own wedding band.

That I understand. Sort of. To a point.
But basically throwing a lot of money at a guy to push him into buying you a monster rock that looks like a child with a candy pop ring, that I do not get at all. And certain ridiculous famous people make all that ostentatiousness look acceptable.

Maggie0829

radleyboo said:

Maggie0829 said:

I really hope that she learned from her last wedding that maybe it would be best to tone things down into a smaller, non-televised affair.  But I doubt it.

The two biggest egos in the world are getting married...this may just be the beginning of the apocalypse.

ETA:  And Kanye West looks like a dumb ass fool with his "PLEEEASE MARRY MEEEE!" message up on the jumbotron.

He did it at a ball game on a jumbotron?  Are you kidding me?  There was ONE THING I told H about our proposal, that if he asked me at some sporting event on a jumbotron with an effing mascot dancing around, he'd better ask someone else.  What happened to proposals being personal and intimate?  Oh, that's right.  Kimye can't do anything without including their 'adoring' public.  How else would they stay on the cover of magazines without stunts like this, as she is completely irrelevant and he's a talentless megalomaniac?

Actually he rented out the entire stadium so the only people there were family and some 12 piece orchestra with fireworks and a whole bunch of other crap that is beyond unnecessary.

Kim really bothers me because I feel like her head is just full of air and Kanye is just a dick who really isn't all that talented IMO.

radleyboo

kitty8403 said:

I can't stand these people either, but I stumbled across that story right after reading THIS. Ugh. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/02/women_are_buying_their_own_engagement_rings_why_not_just_skip_the_tradition.html

I ended up paying for my first engagement ring because my exH put the invoice from the jeweler in the bill rack between cable and lights.  When I asked him, 'What's this?'  He said, 'It's a bill.  We have to pay it.'  That should have been a sign right there.  Needless to say, the marriage failed. 

H and I both paid for our wedding bands, he bought my engagement ring.  

Maggie0829

kitty8403 said:

kitty8403 said:

I can't stand these people either, but I stumbled across that story right after reading THIS. Ugh. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/02/women_are_buying_their_own_engagement_rings_why_not_just_skip_the_tradition.html

I didn't purchase my engagement ring but I did help to buy my own wedding band.

That I understand. Sort of. To a point. But basically throwing a lot of money at a guy to push him into buying you a monster rock that looks like a child with a candy pop ring, that I do not get at all. And certain ridiculous famous people make all that ostentatiousness look acceptable.

Well from our perspective is that a marriage is the coming together of two people and everything that goes along with that including finances.  We both paid money towards our wedding bands because any money associated with the wedding that we were using (parents paid for 90% of it) came out of our joint bank account.

I do not get nor understand buying your own engagement ring.  Then there really is no meaning behind it.  I also don't get couples that buy an engagement ring together but then the girl sits on pins and needles waiting for the proposal.  Um, you were with him when he purchased the ring so being proposed to really isn't going to be that much of a surprise at this point so you probably should have just worn the damn ring out of the jewelry store.

itzMS

I hope for the sake of their child, they participate in some intensive counselling and at least make a heartfelt attempt to not retain a divorce attorney before the marriage even takes place.

HisGirlFriday13

In my red-neck of the woods, that's called 'She trapped him by getting pregnant,' and 'Well he's finally gonna make an honest woman outta the slut he got pregnant.'

Which generally I disagree with but in this case, if the shoe fits...

KatWAG

Does this remind any else about the Friends episode where Mike tries to propose to Phoebe but she makes a big deal about how lame it is to propose at a sporting event.

kitty8403

Maggie0829 said:

kitty8403 said:

kitty8403 said:

I can't stand these people either, but I stumbled across that story right after reading THIS. Ugh.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/02/women_are_buying_their_own_engagement_rings_why_not_just_skip_the_tradition.html

I didn't purchase my engagement ring but I did help to buy my own wedding band.

That I understand. Sort of. To a point.
But basically throwing a lot of money at a guy to push him into buying you a monster rock that looks like a child with a candy pop ring, that I do not get at all. And certain ridiculous famous people make all that ostentatiousness look acceptable.




Well from our perspective is that a marriage is the coming together of two people and everything that goes along with that including finances.  We both paid money towards our wedding bands because any money associated with the wedding that we were using (parents paid for 90% of it) came out of our joint bank account.

I do not get nor understand buying your own engagement ring.  Then there really is no meaning behind it.  I also don't get couples that buy an engagement ring together but then the girl sits on pins and needles waiting for the proposal.  Um, you were with him when he purchased the ring so being proposed to really isn't going to be that much of a surprise at this point so you probably should have just worn the damn ring out of the jewelry store.

Totally! :-)
We don't have a joint account yet--will add one eventually, but strictly for wedding expenses and household bills. I think rings qualify, but I do think it's nice when each partner chooses to pay for the other's ring. He's already bought my engagement ring and I don't feel the need for a wedding ring unless he specifically wants me to wear a separate one (his parents have been married nearly 40 years and wear none; mine married young and theirs are simple, no-frills bands.) I plan to buy his.

radleyboo

@Maggie0829: I completely agree with your thoughts on the financing of the wedding bands.  H and I have one set of bank accounts (one checking, one savings) with both of our names on them.  Our money goes into them, and all household expenses come out of them.  We paid for 100% of our wedding (except for my dress, a gift from my folks, and the RD, a gift from H's mom), including the wedding bands, out of our money.  I honestly never gave that a second thought.  

As for my first experience, you cannot imagine my shock and dismay when I was handed the bill for my own engagement ring.  It was probably the second biggest disappointment in my life, second only to the end of my marriage.  It was horrible.  I am a traditionalist in this area, I suppose, and feel that an engagement ring should be a gift from the man to his fiancee, if there is a ring given.  If exH had come to me and said, 'I can't afford a ring right now, but want to marry you.' it would have been a completely different story than picking up a ring and handing me the bill.  

Edited for clarity.

PolarBearFitz

Every time someone mentions 'kimye' a tiger loses it's stripes, a puppy dies, and a kitten goes blind.

southernbelle0915

The whole Kardashian "kraze" is like a train wreck... so sad and devestating but I can't.... look... away.....

MaryGraceRich

Maggie0829 said:

kitty8403 said:

kitty8403 said:

I can't stand these people either, but I stumbled across that story right after reading THIS. Ugh.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/02/women_are_buying_their_own_engagement_rings_why_not_just_skip_the_tradition.html

I didn't purchase my engagement ring but I did help to buy my own wedding band.

That I understand. Sort of. To a point.
But basically throwing a lot of money at a guy to push him into buying you a monster rock that looks like a child with a candy pop ring, that I do not get at all. And certain ridiculous famous people make all that ostentatiousness look acceptable.




Well from our perspective is that a marriage is the coming together of two people and everything that goes along with that including finances.  We both paid money towards our wedding bands because any money associated with the wedding that we were using (parents paid for 90% of it) came out of our joint bank account.

I do not get nor understand buying your own engagement ring.  Then there really is no meaning behind it.  I also don't get couples that buy an engagement ring together but then the girl sits on pins and needles waiting for the proposal.  Um, you were with him when he purchased the ring so being proposed to really isn't going to be that much of a surprise at this point so you probably should have just worn the damn ring out of the jewelry store.

I dont completely agree. I used to work in a jewelry store. I was working in one when FI bought my ring. He bought it on my day off. Everyone in the store knew which one I wanted.
The next day I noticed it was missing. I behaved myself and didnt check to see who bought it. FI opened his big mouth. He called me and asked if I noticed it was missing. I knew he had it. He still managed to surprise me with the proposal. He picked a moment when I was completely distracted by something else. Knowing he had the ring made it no less special or surprising.

katieg520

I CANNOT stand the Kardashian family. To the point where I don't understand why people like them.

In regards to the above discussion about who pays for the engagement ring. I am with @radleyboo in that I am a traditionalist in that area as well. I see it as HE is asking ME to marry him, and the engagement ring is a token of that gesture. I don't care how small it has to be, but I'm not chipping in.

And on another topic touched on above.... in my previous marriage we had a joint bank account and it did NOT work for us/me. I do not see my fiance and I ever having a joint account.

Maggie0829

katieg520 said:

I CANNOT stand the Kardashian family. To the point where I don't understand why people like them.

In regards to the above discussion about who pays for the engagement ring. I am with @radleyboo in that I am a traditionalist in that area as well. I see it as HE is asking ME to marry him, and the engagement ring is a token of that gesture. I don't care how small it has to be, but I'm not chipping in.

And on another topic touched on above.... in my previous marriage we had a joint bank account and it did NOT work for us/me. I do not see my fiance and I ever having a joint account.

Our joint account is for household bills and other joint bills/needs.  We still have separate accounts for our personal bills and personal spending money.  I don't think it would ever work if all of our money was lumped into one account.  Way too many discussions about things that one or the other may want to buy.  It is much easier to save up my own spending money and then go buy a nice pair of shoes or go on a shopping spree without having to discuss it or ask "permission".

katieg520

Maggie0829 said:

katieg520 said:

I CANNOT stand the Kardashian family. To the point where I don't understand why people like them.

In regards to the above discussion about who pays for the engagement ring. I am with @radleyboo in that I am a traditionalist in that area as well. I see it as HE is asking ME to marry him, and the engagement ring is a token of that gesture. I don't care how small it has to be, but I'm not chipping in.

And on another topic touched on above.... in my previous marriage we had a joint bank account and it did NOT work for us/me. I do not see my fiance and I ever having a joint account.

Our joint account is for household bills and other joint bills/needs.  We still have separate accounts for our personal bills and personal spending money.  I don't think it would ever work if all of our money was lumped into one account.  Way too many discussions about things that one or the other may want to buy.  It is much easier to save up my own spending money and then go buy a nice pair of shoes or go on a shopping spree without having to discuss it or ask "permission".

Exactly!!! We aren't married yet, but we do live together. Things will most likely change once we have our own house together, but the house we live in now is mine ... all the bills are in my name and I bought it before I even knew him. So I guess we'll decide what will work for us when we buy a house together. But right now, he just gives me money at the first of the month for half the bills. We have had the discussion that we don't want to feel like we have to report to each other for every little lunch or (in my case makeup or shoe purchase. So, I can see us having a joint account that we each contribute to in order to pay bills.

radleyboo

Yes, money can definitely be a touchy subject.  The key is finding what works and sticking with it.  I'm lucky in that H is a banker, so he watches our finances really closely.  We do communicate about pretty much everything when it comes to money if something is going to be over a couple hundred bucks, and it doesn't bother me.  What DOES bug me is that it's virtually impossible to surprise him!  I have another account at a different bank that's largely unused.  Occasionally I'll take a couple hundred and put it in there to shop for him so he doesn't know what he's getting for a gift.  

MrsLillyG

I think I technically bought both of our wedding bands.  I like getting the rewards and we split everything so it really didnt matter who's card it went on.  We make about the same salary.  also, If someone gave me tuns of money to get married on tv. hell yes I would.

grumbledore

radleyboo said:

I cannot stand anything Kardashian, mostly for the same reasons so many people love them.  From Kim's annoying baby-talk voice to Bruce Jenner's wax-figure-of-himself face, it all makes my flesh crawl.  At any rate, I follow People magazine on FB (don't judge me, I'm too cheap to actually subscribe), and this popped up:  

http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2013/10/22/kim-kardashian-engagement-ring-kanye-west/

How is she ever going to top the ridiculousness of her first wedding?  I'm thinking a herd of live unicorns.  Everything else has been done.  

Obvs a Kanye/Kim wedding will have a herd of unicorns.  Goes without saying.

ElcaB

All aboard! This is one train headed for a wreck. Choo choo!

nsweare

I help pay for my engagement ring. We made the decision together to get married. We have a combined household and combined finances. We went to the store and picked out mine and his ring together. There was no big proposal. Just an adult discussion about the next step. Therefore, our combined finances are used to make the ring payment. I don't see anything wrong with it and I certainly don't think it says anything negative about our upcoming marriage.