The Church's "stance" on women.

Re: The Church's "stance" on women.

• clearheavens member

  

  April 2011 edited December 2011

  In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_churchs-stance-women?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:bbc93501-bba9-479f-b70c-edcd1308dfdePost:96d07294-4e5b-4619-be5b-56d8e579a540">Re: The Church's "stance" on women.</a>:
  [QUOTE]As it is a solemnity I decided to look back here...this is my favorite topic, so I'll add a bit.. While the feminist movement helped women for equal opportunities and being viewed as the same dignity as men, I think it has also made people think that women are the same as men and that women's value is in what they do, rather than just who they are. The Church's love of women is glorious... read JPII's Letter to Women, or his apostolic letter “On the dignity and vocation of women.” In fact, women are the pinnacle of creation. Think of a triangle... many people think the chuch operates with the pope at the top, cardinals underneath, then bishops, priests, men and then women. When actually, it is in service that the pope is at the bottom ...with the triangle upside down. Women at the top. This is why we trust the pope and cardinals with the magisterium, because they have the weight of the Church and the good of souls on them. God the Father is “initiator” of the gift of self, and the Church is receiver. (in the feminine). It's stamped into the body, men and women, who gives and receives. This is the nature of masculinity-- for men to be priests to take us back to the paschal sacrifice of the mass. The priest being the initator and the church the receiver, joined together brings resurrection and new life. (Hence how the priest is married to the church). To entertain women being ordained is a lowering of their dignity...a step back in their role, not a step forward. The job is so difficult that God provides a sacrament for the grace needed to live that vocation. Women aren't denied it, rather, they get to experience the sacramental nature of bringing new life into the world. This is an even deeper experience of a vocational sacrament than holy orders. The same idea applies to Eph 5. “Submissive” means “under the mission of”. The husband's mission is to love his wife as Christ loved the church. To love means to will the good of the other, which means heaven. Christ loved the church by dying for her, so a husband's job is to help get his wife to heaven, even if it kills him. The wife's job is to put herself under that mission...to allow her husband to love her. Eph 5 is so beautiful in speaking of the dignity of women. I put in another thread this can be seen more practically on <a href="http://www.e5men.org" rel='nofollow'>www.e5men.org</a>
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  <div>Very eloquently put and a good response based on Theology of the Body, agape.  Thanks for your shining light.</div>

  
  
  

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• bibliophile2010 member

  

  April 2011 edited December 2011

  Philia/KatieMac - I just want to echo others in saying that I'm sorry your experience was so terrible. It saddens me when I see instruction that is so out of touch with reality and certainly doesn't shed light on genuine Catholic teaching. I hope you can help your fiance see that those videos are not really what the Church is all about.
  
  Agape -- Thanks for articulating that so wonderfully.
  

  

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• katiemac101

  

  April 2011 edited December 2011

  Thanks!

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