Flammable Confessions

kikibaby · September 2010

Botox is made from the Botulinum toxin... the stuff that causes botulism.

TatiMarie · September 2010

I know, Salt, but I just think it's the thinking of, "But you're beautiful the way you are."

Also, this may sound a little weird, but I remember seeing your sig (like last summer) and I clicked on your blog and loved it. I remember you put some pictures of you up and I thought, "wow, she's super young." Confession: I thought you were 21! Hopefully you take that as a compliment!

jessienjeremy · September 2010

I have a couple: I want kids.. I just dont want the process of having one.. All my prego friends tell me stories of what they are going through and stuff and Im like LALALAL cover my ears. LOL.. my mother laughs at me...

Also, I don't want a certain someone at my wedding but its kinda hard to avoid.. hate those situations..

All 3 of our dogs are rescue dogs. One of them is purebread but we saved him from a puppy mill.. Best dam dogs I ever had....

georgia_bride09 · September 2010

[QUOTE]I have a mutt (husky/lad/sheppard) and no children. I refuse to buy a shelter dog for fear (rational or not) that shelter dogs are unstable. I would however buy a puppy from a shelter, unless I didn't plan on having children than I would do a shelter dog. Did any of that make sense?
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

Where did you get your mutt from? So you'd only rescue an adult dog if you didn't have children in the house? I appreciate your POV, but I don't agree. Most shelter dogs aren't unstable; many are just abanadoned, not abused.

georgia_bride09 · September 2010

mgietler, pardon my slowness today. I missed a page, so I just saw your explanation.

salt78 · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:ed553a0c-91de-4da5-a7ab-e762c74f08f8">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE] I know, Salt, but I just think it's the thinking of, "But you're beautiful the way you are." Also, this may sound a little weird, but I remember seeing your sig (like last summer) and I clicked on your blog and loved it. I remember you put some pictures of you up and I thought, "wow, she's super young." Confession: I thought you were 21! Hopefully you take that as a compliment!
Posted by TatiMarie[/QUOTE]

<div>Ummm YES I most definitely take that as a compliment. :) Especially considering that I'm probably older than like 98% of the people posting in this thread right now. </div><div>
</div><div>And yeah I guess I can understand that part of it. My husband didn't really put up a fight about it though because he knows I'm just going to do whatever I want to anyway. Haha.</div>

pinkpinot · September 2010

I want botox. Does it hurt? How much do those injections cost?

katiepoppy · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:1b7b3841-f6ea-4aca-8ae5-abdd0dfba274">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : FI and I both agreed we can't foster because we will want to keep all the dogs. But I still don't want the risk of a shelter dog injuring either myself or my children.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

This doesn't make sense to me. You would let a shelter dog into your home to foster even though you are worried that they would hurt you? And you would want to keep them?

And even dogs from breeders can have behaviors that need to be addressed.

Celles · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:fa82a113-83d8-42ee-9b03-f902b04357f8">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : That's an interesting statement. Can you explain a little? (This isn't a flame at ALL, or sarcastic. I really would like you to elaborate.)
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

The short answer is that "pro-life" and "anti-abortion" are used often synonymously, but aren't perfect synonyms. You can recognize that everyone has the right to a choice, and still advocate for that choice to be life.

Here's the more personal and drawn out version:

I think I've mentioned a time or two before ;) that I'm an atheist, right? I acknowledge that we are, each of us, greater than the sum of our parts, but I don't believe in a soul, per se. So, it follows that I don't believe a fetus is ensouled at the moment of conception or that a rapidly multiplying collection of cells somehow constitutes sentient and independent life. I do, however, believe in potential -- so while I don't see abortion as "murder," I do recognize that it results in lost or wasted potential.

If it were me, I would choose potential. I wish everyone would. In this respect, I'm pro-life.

But I also believe that every woman has the right to decide for herself whether or not that potential should be realized. In this respect, I'm pro-choice.

mandysmear · September 2010

Even though we have decided to have one baby... if I got pregnant tomorrow I can 90% say that I wouldn't keep it. I have waaaay too much I want to do before I devote my life to a screaming, pooping child.

There's my flammable confession.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

People neve thought cigarettes were healthy. They cause you to hack up brown phlegm. My grandmother was born in 1921 and she said, "trust me, in the 50s, people knew cigarettes caused cancer." It was the tobacco lobby that pushed against warning labels for decades.

I'm not using this to argue that botox IS healthy, because I don't know and haven't considered it.

salt78 · September 2010

As far as animals go...I wouldn't go to a breeder, but I don't really judge people who do. My dad got the family dog from a very nice breeder. Breeders =/= puppy mills.

I guess I judge people that buy a cat a little more than someone that buys a dog from a breeder. I work with a rescue sometimes and cats are so hugely overpopulated that I can't imagine not adopting from there. Both of my guys are rescues.

mandysmear · September 2010

georgia who are the creeps in your siggy?

let me guess... something to do with HP?

katiepoppy · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:225a51b2-dada-4505-a4aa-7a859f175a3b">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]Even though we have decided to have one baby... if I got pregnant tomorrow I can 90% say that I wouldn't keep it. I have waaaay too much I want to do before I devote my life to a screaming, pooping child. There's my flammable confession.
Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]

I don't find that flammable unless you aren't actively trying to prevent pregnancy. Wow that was a lot of negatives. If you are using birth control, I don't see anything wrong with it.

cengle · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:edf0b38f-7307-48a0-938f-110396d1e37d">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : If you want the option, it means you are pro-choice. Even if you wouldn't do it yourself.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

I have to go with Salt on this one. The fact that you want others to have a choice makes your pro-choice. Pro-life means that you don't get a choice. You're pregnant, no abortion for you! Pro-life v. Pro-choice is a macro perspective.

salt78 · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:3622ce76-8243-44d5-b329-e603daae9a40">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]I want botox. Does it hurt? How much do those injections cost?
Posted by pinkpinot[/QUOTE]

<div>It doesn't hurt and it depends on what you want done. My forehead costs me like $300. (That's the only place I get it.) </div>

redheadfsu · September 2010

For those of you that want purebred dogs. There are tons of rescue groups that save a specific breed only and then foster. I have three dachshunds - all rescue. You may have to drive a few hours to pick him/her up, but it is very doable. Don't go to a breeder. I promise you can find them.

Celles · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:e9df015d-11f9-48c2-a1d8-13724f6871b4">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]I'm really judging the people who are against getting dogs from reputable breeders. You're going to punish the people who do the right thing in favor of people who don't spay/neuter their pets, let them have babies, and then dump them? I get it, it's not the animal's fault, but still. Adopt or buy, but get an animal that fits with your family. And, support the people in the industry who are doing things the right way. Not getting the pet you want because it's only available from a breeder isn't going to change the number of puppies and kittens euthanized annually. I'd rather see people support free/cheap spay/neuter clinics.
Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]

The idea isn't too "punish" anyone, Squirrly, and I've already admitted that there are circumstances under which I would buy from a reputable breeder (and judged myself accordingly!).

It's more the realization that there is a HUGE pet over-population problem, coupled with a desire to see everyone who <em>can </em>pitch in to do something about it -- such as adopting that e-list shelter dog instead of buying the cute (and responsibly bred) puppy -- actually <em>do </em>so. I don't think reputable breeders are bad people doing bad things. I don't think that people who buy from reputable breeders are either, although I'll admit it's one of the things I can get very judgmental about.

But at the same time, I realize that every family who buys their puppy from a breeder is a family that won't be adopting their puppy from a shelter -- and therefore one more puppy who is very likely die there. It's not fair, but it really is a zero-sum game.

spechtholdn · September 2010

Another controversial confession is that it really bothers me that a woman can choose to terminate a pregnancy even though her partner wants to keep it. Then another woman can choose to keep her baby knowing that her partner does not want it, and said partner still is held responsible for that child.

salt78 · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:7ce16290-efb9-473c-a5aa-9460e320dfcd">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I listen to my ipod so I won't hear that 'pop' that you hear when the needle pricks...ick...but it doesn't really hurt.
Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]

<div>Heh. The pop makes me laugh. :) I'm also weird though.</div>

salt78 · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:1ff9b54a-3840-4325-a3e8-93b63b3f0f8c">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Well, shite, I'm probably part of the 2%!
Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]

<div>Nice to meet you! *old person high five from my walker*</div>

mandysmear · September 2010

Oh I absolutely take precautions to avoid it.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:1092510d-5ab8-42eb-9689-b7092389060f">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]Another controversial confession is that it really bothers me that a woman can choose to terminate a pregnancy even though her partner wants to keep it. <strong>Then another woman can choose to keep her baby knowing that her partner does not want it, and said partner still is held responsible for that child.</strong>
Posted by spechtholdn[/QUOTE]

I agree that's a hard subject and not exactly fair, but it's not exactly fair to force a woman to abort. I think it would be fair for said parent to be able to terminate his parental rights, legally, however.

As for the former, no, I think it's fine for a woman to want to terminate even if her partner wants to keep it. If he wants to keep it, he can carry it in his uterus for 9 months.

vallyhoo · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:3413e07e-0231-4029-af49-9121a16a64cf">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Mandy. Ron and Harry are not creeps. They are two thirds of the reason that Voldemort didn't rise back up to power and kill all the Muggles and Half-Bloods. Sheesh.
Posted by georgia_bride09[/QUOTE]

IS THIS A SPOILER?!?

laladypoet · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:8aaf4f94-3e20-42f1-9e25-b0991f87ad97">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]Flameable Confession: I had an abortion 3 years ago.. I was so sick, and would have died had I stayed pregnant. I was in the hospital at least twice a week for 2 1/2 months, from fainting, and I lost 20 lbs.. I would not have lived through 9 months, and I wasn't willing to risk my life and my not being able to have more kids. However, I would never do it again. Even if I had the same risk. I would not do that to myself again. It was a horrible experience. BUT, I'm completely pro-choice. I don't think men in government should tell women they can't have one, when they will personally never be in that situation. That is all. Oh, and I have no preference to animals.. Sorry. I would love one, but I would probably adopt, just cuz it's cheaper.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I have a friend who had an ectopic pregnancy and had to go to planned parenthood to take care of it. she and her boyfriend lived together already and would've kept the baby otherwise. but people threw things at her and called her horrible names. those people make me stabby.

georgia_bride09 · September 2010

I want to talk about Botox and breeders vs. shelter dogs, but I just can't get it up for either subject. I'll be a wrinkly old hag. I don't think my particular face would handle Botox gracefully.

I'd be judged IRL for A) my eating habits vs. my constant whining about my weight,

all the paper towels I waste, and C) the state of my kitties' litter box. I need to move it closer to the living room so I can smell it and know to scoop.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

Re: adopting cats. I agree - pure bred cats are not as big of a deal as pure bred dogs. That said, Fi and I wanted a persian or himalayan. Not from a breeder, because I'm pro-shelter. (And yeah, persian kittens cost about $1,000.) We ended up finding 2 silver shaded persians who were 3 years old at a rescue. Later, we discovered there's actually a persian rescue in our city. If we had been willing to wait a year or two, we probably could have gotten a kitten.

laladypoet · September 2010

pink, did you ever submit anything to KPS?

katiepoppy · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:e7f0ab9a-2e1e-4088-a131-bf7ca8544dc0">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Every dog has issues (medical or behaviour) sooner or later. I drove 10 hours one way to rescue one and 9 hours one way to rescue the other. (third was in town) I don't care about breed, but my FI does. I would never buy a dog. Ever.
Posted by redheadfsu[/QUOTE]

Well yes, all animals eventually have medical and behavioral issues. But if you get a 2 year old dog that has to have monthly allergy shots and one on one behavioral training, that is a lot different (and a significantly higher expense) than dealing with bad backs/hips as they get older. We will just disagree on this one.

emilyinchile · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:4a566ed7-bb04-49ac-a5c2-1a4128dda988">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]has pink spilled her big confession yet? did I miss it?
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

No, and I'm back from lunch, so her time is up.

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