MTV and aborition

ricksang · December 2010

What do you think?

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/12/22/mtv-to-air-abortion-special/

AllAboutTheBenjamin · December 2010

I think after this special, people will blame MTV for glamourizing abortion the same way they glamourized teen pregnancy.

Although I don't see anything about 16 and Pregnant to be terribly glamourous.

Nebb · December 2010

MTV just sounds like vapid drivel to me, I dont know why people watch that crap. I feel like the scenario in idiocracy is already beginning...

Ash2985 · December 2010

I wonder if it's Amber deciding whether or not to have the abortion.

I wish they would just address this on 16 & Pregnant instead of having a separate special on it. They show multiple girls having the baby and some giving it up for adoption. Why not throw in a girl or two who is having an abortion?

ricksang · December 2010

I think the girls will get a lot of hate thrown their way by the crazies. I could be wrong.

jemmini6 · December 2010

I think it would be best if they did a special on PREVENTION instead of just how to deal with it after it happens. They should do a '16 and pregnant' meets 'I wasn't stupid and learned to use birth control and now I'm in college living the life TEENAGERS were meant to' special and edit it to make the teen moms lives look like crap compared to the people who used birth control and prevented pregnancy.

*disclaimer- I think some of those teen moms (Maci) are actually doing quite well, but if you are going to promote prevention, you obviously have to make the alternative look like it's hell

AllAboutTheBenjamin · December 2010

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[QUOTE]I think the girls will get a lot of hate thrown their way by the crazies. I could be wrong.
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]

You could be right!

Nebb · December 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mtv-aborition?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:51f7403b-5784-4db3-ae13-430c6773eceePost:0936d883-60cb-436d-9e54-3a2baed80dcb">Re: MTV and aborition</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: MTV and aborition : So because she had an abortion, she can't ever have a happy marriage?
Posted by ILoveMilkDuds[/QUOTE]

Obviously NOT!! she is doomed forever.

Ash2985 · December 2010

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[QUOTE]I think the girls will get a lot of hate thrown their way by the crazies. I could be wrong.
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]
<div>I think that's exactly what will happen, unfortunately.</div>

salt78 · December 2010

It is probably that trainwreck Amber. They should follow this special up with one where she gets her tubes tied.

ricksang · December 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mtv-aborition?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:51f7403b-5784-4db3-ae13-430c6773eceePost:3ad824c2-a5c0-48ae-b77e-fbda4369e522">Re: MTV and aborition</a>:
[QUOTE]I think it would be best if they did a special on PREVENTION instead of just how to deal with it after it happens. They should do a '16 and pregnant' meets 'I wasn't stupid and learned to use birth control and now I'm in college living the life TEENAGERS were meant to' special and edit it to make the teen moms lives look like crap compared to the people who used birth control and prevented pregnancy. *disclaimer- I think some of those teen moms (Maci) are actually doing quite well, but if you are going to promote prevention, you obviously have to make the alternative look like it's hell
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

I like this idea. They glamorize this show too much. I don't watch it though but I assume they do since it's in the mags a lot.

ricksang · December 2010

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[QUOTE]It is probably that trainwreck Amber. They should follow this special up with one where she gets her tubes tied.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

I saw her in a magazine yesterday. It said she slept with 9 men in two months, although how would a mag know that ? lol :/

All I know is she doesn't have eyebrows!

anna.oskar · December 2010

it's Markai

http://insidetv.ew.com/2010/12/21/mtv-to-air-special-report-tackling-abortion-dec-28-exclusive/

Nebb · December 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: MTV and aborition : I saw her in a magazine yesterday. It said she slept with 9 men in two months, although how would a mag know that ? lol <strong>:/ All I know is she doesn't have eyebrows!
</strong>Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]

Seriously though, what is up with that chicks face. She has this weird puffy forehead no eyebrows look going on.

salt78 · December 2010

The no-eyebrow look infuriates me. I know someone that shaves them off and draws them back on. It is the most ridiculous thing ever.

Ash2985 · December 2010

She looks like her skin would crackle when she moves. And I think she would have that burnt skin smell that tanning salons sometimes get.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · December 2010

I commented about this on another board, where most of the posters were against it because of the backlash it might cause against the girl. This is my C&Ped answer:

I don't watch 16 and Pregnant or Teen Mom, but I don't have a problem showing an abortion decision on television AT ALL. It's honestly one of the last taboo subjects on US television. The Canadian show Degrassi: The Next Generation (which is fictional) showed a character deciding to get an abortion in a two part episode, and the channel that shows the program in America only aired the first part of that storyline.

She won't be the first person to go on TV and publicly admit to an abortion or talk about it. Yes, it's VERY hard to do, so I wonder if she realizes all the consequences of doing so, but that's her decision. And if she already has a child and has been on the show, I'm assuming she's over 18 now.

I DO wish instead of a special which draws attention to OMG abortion in a sensationalistic way that they would just incorporate it into the show. In the first season, one girl on 16 and Pregnant gave up her baby for adoption. Why not simply show a 16 year old girl who decides to get an abortion? It's as much of a legitimate decision in that circumstance as adoption or keeping the baby.

AllAboutTheBenjamin · December 2010

How could you possibly think that having no eyebrows would be a good look? I do know a girl who pulls her out but I'm pretty sure it's trichotillimania (sp?) but if you're shaving em off on purpose, I think you need to have your head examined.

ricksang · December 2010

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[QUOTE]I commented about this on another board, where most of the posters were against it because of the backlash it might cause against the girl. This is my C&Ped answer: I don't watch 16 and Pregnant or Teen Mom, but I don't have a problem showing an abortion decision on television AT ALL. It's honestly one of the last taboo subjects on US television. The Canadian show Degrassi: The Next Generation (which is fictional) showed a character deciding to get an abortion in a two part episode, and the channel that shows the program in America only aired the first part of that storyline. She won't be the first person to go on TV and publicly admit to an abortion or talk about it. Yes, it's VERY hard to do, so I wonder if she realizes all the consequences of doing so, but that's her decision. And if she already has a child and has been on the show, I'm assuming she's over 18 now. I DO wish instead of a special which draws attention to OMG abortion in a sensationalistic way that they would just incorporate it into the show. In the first season, one girl on 16 and Pregnant gave up her baby for adoption. Why not simply show a 16 year old girl who decides to get an abortion? It's as much of a legitimate decision in that circumstance as adoption or keeping the baby.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
Good points. I only worry that harm will befall these girls. Example Westboro Chruch! Is that the right name?

Yes Amber does have puffy eyes as well!

salt78 · December 2010

If I shaved my eyebrows off, I would draw on a different expression every day.

Ash2985 · December 2010

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[QUOTE] I DO wish instead of a special which draws attention to OMG abortion in a sensationalistic way that they would just incorporate it into the show. In the first season, one girl on 16 and Pregnant gave up her baby for adoption. Why not simply show a 16 year old girl who decides to get an abortion? It's as much of a legitimate decision in that circumstance as adoption or keeping the baby.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I wish it wasn't treated as such a taboo subject. I know it's a difficult decision to make, but it's something that should be discussed instead of being ignored.

ricksang · December 2010

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[QUOTE]If I shaved my eyebrows off, I would draw on a different expression every day.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Hahaha and I hope you would PIP for us everyday too!

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · December 2010

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[QUOTE]I wonder if it's Amber deciding whether or not to have the abortion. I wish they would just address this on 16 & Pregnant instead of having a separate special on it. They show multiple girls having the baby and some giving it up for adoption. Why not throw in a girl or two who is having an abortion?
Posted by Ash2985[/QUOTE]

It was Markai, I believe?

salt78 · December 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mtv-aborition?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:51f7403b-5784-4db3-ae13-430c6773eceePost:03e1b83f-39ab-4f4a-90dc-e7854b833d98">Re: MTV and aborition</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: MTV and aborition : Hahaha and I hope you would PIP for us everyday too!
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]

<div>Oh definitely. </div><div>
</div><div>I can picture everyone now... running excitedly to their computers because they are so interested in seeing my daily eyebrow emotion post. It would be like Christmas every day.</div><div>
</div><div><3</div>

AllAboutTheBenjamin · December 2010

You could change your expressions throughout the day, even. Like wake up, you're happy. Get bad news before lunch, you're pissed off. See a kitten in the afternoon, "aaaawww" eyebrows. It COULD be fun.

Steph0871 · December 2010

Salt, if you need inspiration:

http://danidraws.com/2007/12/06/50-facial-expressions-and-how-to-draw-them/

salt78 · December 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: MTV and aborition : And I am admittedly cynical about marriages to sports stars, movie stars, etc. which has nothing to do with abortion.
Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]

<div>Yeah I think that breakup probably had way more to do with the fact that most of those relationships are doomed from the get-go anyway.</div>

ricksang · December 2010

Hellz yeah! The many faces of Salt. It could be its own blog.

salt78 · December 2010

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[QUOTE]Salt, if you need inspiration: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://danidraws.com/2007/12/06/50-facial-expressions-and-how-to-draw-them/">http://danidraws.com/2007/12/06/50-facial-expressions-and-how-to-draw-them/</a>
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

<div>Those are fantastic!</div><div>I love the annoyed one. I could just take a black sharpie and draw a straight line right over top of both my eyes. </div>

mkrupar · December 2010

I personally see no reason for them to not air the special. But, like others have said I wish they would just incorperate it into a regular episode of 16 and pregnant. The fact that it's a girl that was previously on the show and got knocked up again kind of irritates me. Makes me think she didn't learn her lesson the first time.

I would totally be a follower of "The Many Faces of Salt" blog.

Cynthia1207 · December 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mtv-aborition?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:51f7403b-5784-4db3-ae13-430c6773eceePost:3ad824c2-a5c0-48ae-b77e-fbda4369e522">Re: MTV and aborition</a>:
[QUOTE]I think it would be best if they did a special on PREVENTION instead of just how to deal with it after it happens. They should do a '16 and pregnant' meets <strong>'I wasn't stupid and learned to use birth control and now I'm in college living the life TEENAGERS were meant to</strong>' special and edit it to make the teen moms lives look like crap compared to the people who used birth control and prevented pregnancy. *disclaimer- I think some of those teen moms (Maci) are actually doing quite well, but if you are going to promote prevention, you obviously have to make the alternative look like it's hell
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

Just in case you weren't aware...Not everyone who has had an abortion/gotten pregnant young is stupid. I think it's pretty ignorant of you to say so. Birth control does happen to fail in certain circumstances. It has nothing to do with being stupid. Accidents happen. It takes a lot more courage than you think to get an abortion. It's not the easy way out as you may seem to think. I just think it was wrong for you to generalize like that,

I agree with focusing on prevention and showing the real repercussions of dealing with babies/getting an abortion. Nothing will change if everything is glamorized like it is now.

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