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Any lawyers/ law school grads? (not really legal-related)
Random question. One of my best friends just graduated from law school, and I want to get her some personalized stationery to use. BUT, do I add her new degree in there somehow? (first last, J.D. or what?)
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Re: Any lawyers/ law school grads? (not really legal-related)
But anyway, I think First Last, J.D. would be nice.
ETA: Oops. Should elaborate on the eye-rolling, in case people take it wrong. Eye-roll, in response to someone thinking that my cousin was trying to practice law with a JD before passing the Bar, and for correcting her on a "congrats" post.
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[QUOTE]I'm not a law school grad, but this did just come up with my cousin the other day. She posted on her FB that she was now "First Last, Esq" and that next weekend (when she gets married) she'll be "First New Last, Esq." One of her law school colleagues told her she was going to get in big trouble for using Esq before she passed the Bar, and she better change that to JD pronto. I rolled my eyes hard. But anyway, I think First Last, J.D. would be nice. ETA: Oops. Should elaborate on the eye-rolling, in case people take it wrong. Eye-roll, in response to someone thinking that my cousin was trying to practice law with a JD before passing the Bar, and for correcting her on a "congrats" post.
Posted by MandK9[/QUOTE]
Haha.
I was like - technically, that is 100% correct. Esquire implies that you passed the bar; JD means you graduated law school.
Steph - I'd get her stuff with Esq on it, honestly. Chances are, she'll pass the bar and then her JD stationery will be obsolete.
It's assumed if you're practicing law that you've passed the bar. The only ppl who send me mail to First Name Last Name Esq are the bar association people and the alumni association from my law school.
FirstName LastName
Attorney at law
I would get her stationary that says it that way. Also, I would like to suggest getting her a nice business card holder. I bought myself one from Kate Spade when the website had some promo going on and I love it.
[QUOTE]My husband uses Esquire after his name on anything related to his job. ::shrug:: Different strokes for different folks.
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Maybe it's a regional thing. Interesting.
I would rather receive a nice business card holder than stationery with my name on it. If she's working at a firm, all of her work correspondence will be on the firm's letterhead. You could also get her a nice portfolio with her name on it (with or without Esq).
I don't actually know the rules about using Esquire. Haha.
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[QUOTE]I don't use Esquire after my name for anything (maybe I did in the first letters I wrote at work), and it's rare in correspondence that I've received. When I have seen it, it's been on the person's law firm stationery. I think the only thing I receive addressed to TheCranberry, Esq. is from my law school and bar associations. I've never used or seen TheCranberry, JD. I would rather receive a nice business card holder than stationery with my name on it.<strong> If she's working at a firm, all of her work correspondence will be on the firm's letterhead.</strong> You could also get her a nice portfolio with her name on it (with or without Esq). I don't actually know the rules about using Esquire. Haha.
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I didn't even think about this. You're right. I don't have my own stationary for work, nor would I send personal correspondence on stationary that identified my title as an attorney.
I love having a chic business card holder. It makes me perk up everytime I get a business card out to give to someone.
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In my area at least and with the correspondence I've done with most firms in the region work related anything is the name followed by Esq. I don't view it as pretentious.
I have known people who didn't pass the bar on the first second or third try. So, if she is taking the Bar in California, New York or Virginia you might want to wait on the Esquire. It could be a slap in the face and she probably wouldn't use them professionally anyway. Also, I wouldn't use J.D. it usually singles out those who failed the Bar exam. But I agree, the Esquires who use Esquire are trying to prove something.
If she just graduated law school she is probably broke and jobless, get her a gift card for a massage/starbucks/yoga classes/xanax she will use the hell out of it studying for the bar.
The use of Esq. does seem to be regional; it's not used here in Oregon. As I understand, one does not call oneself an Esquire; it is a courtesy you bestow on others. When using Esq., you do not use Mr. or Ms. Even if the use of Esq. isn't pretentious, pointing out that one is a lawyer in social settings is, or is obnoxious at the very least. If you want to get her nice stationery, do so, but leave off Esq. or Attorney at Law.
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I know it would make me smile to see a little pack of papers with a JD or Esq. on it though, even if I just used it to write my mom letters or something.
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I didn't know the Esq. vs. J.D. till we had to take this beyond boring professional responsibility classes that drilled it into us that we are not lawyers, it is illegal to call ourselves lawyers till passing the bar, its an ethics violation blah blah blah. They made it sound really scary.
I work with big firms across the country. I've seen business cards with first name last name associate/partner/counsel under it. Or just business cards with names on it, assumption being if you're handing a card from a firm/using firm letterhead, you're an attorney unless you say otherwise. Until I passed the bar, my firm had me add Law Clerk to all my stuff. Once I passed, I took Law Clerk off and was just First Name Last Name. I love stationery and cards. Love it. I have all different kinds. I cannot imagine using anything that had my name, esquire on it.