what i don't understand, if rational and intelligent people (like us here, no sarcasm intended) can see this is BS, then how can a jury not see things the same way? i don't get it. i don't understand this one bit.
Ugh. I thought of HE when they were talking about the shooter's father's comments on his son and how he was part "Latino" and that he had black friends. Okay...and? Doesn't automatically make you not an idiot and horribly reactive. And hateful.
I think the police chief "temporarily" stepping down is a farce. I think the shooter is racist. I think is a huge trajedy that to get light on this Trayvon's family had to hire a freaking laywer. I think if the shooter ever shows his face in public again he may end up with a mob after him. Bullshit all around for sure.
I think that there are still many people that don't see the big deal with this. It's scary, and I know many people that worry about their young, black sons for this reason.
Esp parents that live in the suburbs. I have friends and family that still talk with their sons about being careful, and knowing that the police will pull you over in "that part of town", and point blank ask you, "Where are you going?"
They address dating outside of your race. Telling them that every dad isn't going to be cool with you dating their daughter, and just realize that. You can date whomever you want, but at the end of the day everybody isn't cool with it.
Do these kind of talks happen with other races? I'm curious to know.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_rpotd-59?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:007f0722-4723-4336-b000-e68921c3ec08Post:c0366513-2480-48ff-a838-af2892107a42">Re: rpotd</a>: [QUOTE]Each new detail is more and more appalling. Posted by mscalibride[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_rpotd-59?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:007f0722-4723-4336-b000-e68921c3ec08Post:a6c2f78c-9a7e-4c64-a29d-3dda4d39e91c">Re: rpotd</a>: [QUOTE]I think that there are still many people that don't see the big deal with this. It's scary, and I know many people that worry about their young, black sons for this reason. Esp parents that live in the suburbs. I have friends and family that still talk with their sons about being careful, and knowing that the police will pull you over in "that part of town", and point blank ask you, "Where are you going?" They address dating outside of your race. Telling them that every dad isn't going to be cool with you dating their daughter, and just realize that. You can date whomever you want, but at the end of the day everybody isn't cool with it. Do these kind of talks happen with other races? I'm curious to know. Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
Nola, I am terrified for my son. Trayvon was as sweet and innocent looking as a teenaged boy can look and he was stalked and murdered.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_rpotd-59?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:007f0722-4723-4336-b000-e68921c3ec08Post:c6f3e448-081f-4433-95be-28bc3cb32d8d">Re: rpotd</a>: [QUOTE]one of the more ridiculous things about treyvon's death is how the neighborhood watch idiot had a weapon. dude, you aren't a cop. Posted by Wzz[/QUOTE]
<div>The most ridiculous thing of all Wzz is that the Nation Neighborhood watch association came out with a press release stating the shooter WAS NOT an actual member of the nieghborhood watch. </div><div> </div><div>He was just some dude with a gun and something to prove. </div>
He also was told by the police not to follow Treyvon but did it anyway. He also said, "These @ssholes always get away." He also used a racial slur. The police claimed he had a clean record but that wasn't true he was arrested in 2006.
I would say no to you, NOLA. I don't remember having that conversation, in fact I would imagine that there is a lot of unspoken "looks and harrumphs" in my family when interracial couples are together.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_rpotd-59?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:007f0722-4723-4336-b000-e68921c3ec08Post:21b32449-2a43-4cde-8d07-38422f6d0879">Re: rpotd</a>: [QUOTE]Ok. I'll start. I think that's some bull_ _ _ _. Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
I remember many talks like that. My first job was at the movies in a majority white neighborhood. I was the only little brown face working there. I remember my parents telling me to do my job, and act accordingly, but I needed to remember that I can't do what the other kids might be able to do.
They might be able to get away with things that I wasn't going to get away with. Yes, this was the late 80's,and it was a different time. However, it's still not as different as we think. It was kinda like don't forget that people will be watching you, and don't get so comfortable to think that you can do what other kids might be able to do.
Am I making sense? It came from a place of protection more so than anything else.
[QUOTE]I think that there are still many people that don't see the big deal with this. It's scary, and I know many people that worry about their young, black sons for this reason. Esp parents that live in the suburbs. I have friends and family that still talk with their sons about being careful, and knowing that the police will pull you over in "that part of town", and point blank ask you, "Where are you going?" They address dating outside of your race. Telling them that every dad isn't going to be cool with you dating their daughter, and just realize that. You can date whomever you want, but at the end of the day everybody isn't cool with it. Do these kind of talks happen with other races? I'm curious to know. Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
<div>yes, even among asians, aka the model minority.</div>
I agree about the hoodie, NOLA. Geraldo Riveria keeps tweeting that minority parents need to talk to their children about not wearing hoodies. People are livid b/c he's missing the point that yeah, that unfortunate conversation probably does have to happen ANDT THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG.
And yes, there was a conversation about dating outside my own race at my house. I love him and my grandfather is a racist sexist conservative SOB. I was told point blank not to bring a black man home. I always wondered if it extended to HIspanics, Asians or women (to broadly generalize), but livingi n a homogenous white town means there wasn't any real problem with it.
Nola, as much as people like to act as if it is a different time, I don't think it is. I just think we're better at lying to ourselves about it. And hiding it.
Nope, I can see that Nola. You are expected to fulfill a role and just do that...and then basically disappear. You can have fun but not THAT kind of fun. Which is sad.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_rpotd-59?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:007f0722-4723-4336-b000-e68921c3ec08Post:2518e01a-a58e-490b-afab-47851450904c">Re: rpotd</a>: [QUOTE]H, I see your point, and that puts another spin on it. They were coming from a, "Don't go and wild out with he other white kids, because they won't let you slide like they might let the other kids." It's hard to explain. Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
Re: rpotd
Although it won't bring him back, I hope his family sues theshit out of the town and PD.
what i don't understand, if rational and intelligent people (like us here, no sarcasm intended) can see this is BS, then how can a jury not see things the same way? i don't get it. i don't understand this one bit.
Esp parents that live in the suburbs. I have friends and family that still talk with their sons about being careful, and knowing that the police will pull you over in "that part of town", and point blank ask you, "Where are you going?"
They address dating outside of your race. Telling them that every dad isn't going to be cool with you dating their daughter, and just realize that. You can date whomever you want, but at the end of the day everybody isn't cool with it.
Do these kind of talks happen with other races? I'm curious to know.
[QUOTE]Each new detail is more and more appalling.
Posted by mscalibride[/QUOTE]
This. It's just all sickening.
[QUOTE]I think that there are still many people that don't see the big deal with this. It's scary, and I know many people that worry about their young, black sons for this reason. Esp parents that live in the suburbs. I have friends and family that still talk with their sons about being careful, and knowing that the police will pull you over in "that part of town", and point blank ask you, "Where are you going?" They address dating outside of your race. Telling them that every dad isn't going to be cool with you dating their daughter, and just realize that. You can date whomever you want, but at the end of the day everybody isn't cool with it. Do these kind of talks happen with other races? I'm curious to know.
Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
Nola, I am terrified for my son. Trayvon was as sweet and innocent looking as a teenaged boy can look and he was stalked and murdered.
[QUOTE]one of the more ridiculous things about treyvon's death is how the neighborhood watch idiot had a weapon. dude, you aren't a cop.
Posted by Wzz[/QUOTE]
<div>The most ridiculous thing of all Wzz is that the Nation Neighborhood watch association came out with a press release stating the shooter WAS NOT an actual member of the nieghborhood watch. </div><div>
</div><div>He was just some dude with a gun and something to prove. </div>
And assumptions....LOTS of those.
[QUOTE]Ok. I'll start. I think that's some bull_ _ _ _.
Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
This pretty much sums it up for me.
They might be able to get away with things that I wasn't going to get away with. Yes, this was the late 80's,and it was a different time. However, it's still not as different as we think. It was kinda like don't forget that people will be watching you, and don't get so comfortable to think that you can do what other kids might be able to do.
Am I making sense? It came from a place of protection more so than anything else.
Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
<div>yes, even among asians, aka the model minority.</div>
They were coming from a, "Don't go and wild out with he other white kids, because they won't let you slide like they might let the other kids."
It's hard to explain.
[QUOTE]H, I see your point, and that puts another spin on it. They were coming from a, "Don't go and wild out with he other white kids, because they won't let you slide like they might let the other kids." It's hard to explain.
Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
:(
No, white people don't get these talks.