In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:225a51b2-dada-4505-a4aa-7a859f175a3b">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]Even though we have decided to have one baby... if I got pregnant tomorrow I can 90% say that I wouldn't keep it. I have waaaay too much I want to do before I devote my life to a screaming, pooping child. There's my flammable confession. Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]
Good, because I for one am not ready to listen to all your talk about yuor PERFIKT BEBE and we all know that's what you'd do because YOU ARE A BRAGGER, MANDY. A BRAGGER OF PERFECT.
If I wanted to hear the pitter-patter of little feet, I'd put shoes on the cat.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:4c859cc8-eb1e-4035-91e3-4d86713a315b">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I have a friend who had an ectopic pregnancy and had to go to planned parenthood to take care of it. she and her boyfriend lived together already and would've kept the baby otherwise. but people threw things at her and called her horrible names. those people make me stabby. Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
It was with FI.. So, ya, we had already lived together.. My family sort of shunned me, when they found out (stupid mother has a big fuucking mouth), but it was MY choice to not die.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:b29de2b8-42cb-4361-b1ca-43ffaeb6a53d">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : IS THIS A SPOILER?!? Posted by vallyhoo[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess <em>technically</em>. I's sowwies! I keep forgetting you're so.close. to the end.
But you had to have sort of guessed the gist of the ending already, no?
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:c766b3ba-1089-4c3e-b641-94fcc03e0638">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE] B) all the paper towels I waste Posted by georgia_bride09[/QUOTE]
Me too. Sometime in the last few years I became a germaphobe and have started using a lot more of them.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:0c3bfe34-cfa1-4df0-8a13-aab591ace069">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Sorry, but I think that's lame. He should want you to be happy and comfortable with the way you look. Edit: I'm not saying that you aren't...I'm just saying that I don't understand why someone's husband wouldn't be supportive of that decision. Botox isn't like a boob job. It's really not a big deal and it wears off. Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]
Salt, I remember you telling me to go for it last time I talked about this. In my case, if I told H that this was something I really wanted and that it was important to me, I'm sure he'd think I was silly but would support me. But since right now it's more of a little thing I'm curious about, I wouldn't be able to honestly say it was super important to me, and I also care more about him thinking I'm being silly than I do about doing it. In a few years, that may well change.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:8aaf4f94-3e20-42f1-9e25-b0991f87ad97">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]Flameable Confession: I had an abortion 3 years ago.. I was so sick, and would have died had I stayed pregnant. I was in the hospital at least twice a week for 2 1/2 months, from fainting, and I lost 20 lbs.. I would not have lived through 9 months, and I wasn't willing to risk my life and my not being able to have more kids. However, I would never do it again. Even if I had the same risk. I would not do that to myself again. It was a horrible experience. BUT, I'm completely pro-choice. I don't think men in government should tell women they can't have one, when they will personally never be in that situation. That is all. Oh, and I have no preference to animals.. Sorry. I would love one, but I would probably adopt, just cuz it's cheaper. Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
<div>On this note, I confess that about 8 years ago, I was ready to exercise my right to choose, but my body ended up deciding for me. My cousin and my BF at the time are the only ones that knew. I am so thankful I didn't have to go through with the decision or the pregnancy. I was not fit to be a mother at that point in time. I am so excited to start TTC in November and I am so ready now. So I guess my confession is that 8 years ago I had a miscarriage and am not at all sad about it. </div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:257b8733-345b-4b98-b1c7-3d3d1cd1ee5c">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Well, I guess technically . I's sowwies! I keep forgetting you're so.close. to the end. But you had to have sort of guessed the gist of the ending already, no? Posted by georgia_bride09[/QUOTE]
s'okay! well of course I try to guess the ending but I was SO wrong with HBP. So wrong.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:c744a2e6-430f-4dbb-a1ca-821c8d92448b">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I agree that's a hard subject and not exactly fair, but it's not exactly fair to force a woman to abort. I think it would be fair for said parent to be able to terminate his parental rights, legally, however. As for the former, no, I think it's fine for a woman to want to terminate even if her partner wants to keep it. If he wants to keep it, he can carry it in his uterus for 9 months. Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
I do not think it's fair to force an abortion either. If the woman wants to keep the baby then that's great. I just don't think she should be allowed to take a man to court for support when it was well known by her that he did not want children. The reason I bring this up is because I know two women who had abortion even though their partners at the time wanted the child. They even offered to become a single parent and that she wouldn't have to be involved at all. But because it was their body they had the right to choose. Then I also know a man who let it be completely known he did not want children. Everyone knew he didn't The girl he was with was on BC but took antibiotics and neither of them knew that it could cause you to get pregnant. She did and she kept the baby so now he pays child support for a child that she knew he did not want. He even tried to have his rights terminated and the courts said no he still had to pay her CS.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:2a9b12ce-3044-4323-8f5d-6f7c069a9afe">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : It was with FI.. So, ya, we had already lived together.. My family sort of shunned me, when they found out (stupid mother has a big fuucking mouth), but it was MY choice to not die. Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I think it's total bullshit that your family would act that way when your LIFE was at stake. I hate them for you. If anyone wants to value some cells that only have potential to become life over my 26 year old self, they can go play in traffic. (I'm obviously very pro-choice)
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:8aaf4f94-3e20-42f1-9e25-b0991f87ad97">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]Flameable Confession: I had an abortion 3 years ago.. I was so sick, and would have died had I stayed pregnant. I was in the hospital at least twice a week for 2 1/2 months, from fainting, and I lost 20 lbs.. I would not have lived through 9 months, and I wasn't willing to risk my life and my not being able to have more kids. However, I would never do it again. Even if I had the same risk. I would not do that to myself again. It was a horrible experience. BUT, I'm completely pro-choice. I don't think men in government should tell women they can't have one, when they will personally never be in that situation. That is all. Oh, and I have no preference to animals.. Sorry. I would love one, but I would probably adopt, just cuz it's cheaper. Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I didn't think about this type of situation when I originally posted about this topic. I think I probably would abort if there was some medical reason that would greatly jeapordize my health and it was a known factor. I also wasn't thinking about medical issues where it is known that the baby will not live. A good friend of mine was told at 4 months her baby had some rare disease and it wouldn't survive more than a few hours. It was so sad. She couldn't afford to have an abortion so she carried out the pregnancy knowing her baby was going to die when he was born. It was some lung thing where his lungs were not developing the way they should and they couldn't fix the problem, so he basically just gasped for air for about and hour and a half until his lungs just couldn't take any more. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" />
Celles, you're effectively rewarding the backyard breeder, though, because they have no consequences, and you're not supporting the responsible breeder whose puppy you'd prefer to have, per your own admission.
I just think you're fighting a losing battle with the backyard breeders, and making it harder for the ones who are responsible. You're just addressing the symptom (too many dogs in shelters) and not the root cause (overbreeding).
Clearly we're not going to agree. But I really hate the push on here to ONLY provide homes to shelter dogs. They're not the only ones that can be loving members of your family. Certainly don't exclude them. But I don't see how being exclusive about them helps anything, really. I'm all for a solution. I just advocate treating the root cause, not the symptoms.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:8a280b4c-56b7-4f96-a0a6-f25763293b6c">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I think it's total bullshit that your family would act that way when your LIFE was at stake. I hate them for you. If anyone wants to value some cells that only have potential to become life over my 26 year old self, they can go play in traffic. (I'm obviously very pro-choice) Posted by cengle[/QUOTE]
And I love you for hating them for me.. We've kind of "moved past it" as much as possible.. I still cry on the day every year, and most likely always will.. I want to be a mother more than anything else, and it hurt a lot to have to be that selfish. I don't regret it, necessarily, because my thought is: If I was supposed to have that baby, my life wouldn't have been in jeopardy. Simple as that.
I'm a pro-lifer and respect the fact that other people have a different opinion than I do so I don't try to force my opinions on someone. If someone asks for my opinion I'll give it and leave it at that.
I firmly believe that if a child is not meant to be born God (or mother nature/natural selection/whatever you choose to call it) will intervene and the woman will miscarry, however far along she may be in the pregnancy.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:bf50a020-ca54-4dd1-8f42-1b06999e880f">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I didn't think about this type of situation when I originally posted about this topic. I think I probably would abort if there was some medical reason that would greatly jeapordize my health and it was a known factor. I also wasn't thinking about medical issues where it is known that the baby will not live. A good friend of mine was told at 4 months her baby had some rare disease and it wouldn't survive more than a few hours. It was so sad. She couldn't afford to have an abortion so she carried out the pregnancy knowing her baby was going to die when he was born. It was some lung thing where his lungs were not developing the way they should and they couldn't fix the problem, so he basically just gasped for air for about and hour and a half until his lungs just couldn't take any more. Posted by spechtholdn[/QUOTE]
Most people don't think about it, because I think in most cases, it's pretty clear what the woman would do.
The ONLY time I wish abortion was illegal, is in those situations where the woman uses it as BC. I hate / know people like that.. Someone I went to HS with had 3 abortions her Junior Year alone..
Sorry I was eating! I'm back. Yes, I did submit a secret to KPS but it wasn't scandalous.
My confession: Oh boy. My neighbors are, in my opinion, animal hoarders and have a feral cat colony living/reproducing on their property about 25/30 cats. My large dog loves to chase them off my property and she got loose during the chase last week and was able to catch a cat. :-( Cat did not survive. I'm so upset about it and I'm afraid they may report my dog to the state and have her put on a dangerous dog list even though she is not dangerous. He also fired 2 gun shots at my dog (she is OK, not hit) because he thought she was the racoon that killed a couple of his cats last week.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:086f23db-1aaf-41f7-aac1-0fd3db114476">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]Celles, you're effectively rewarding the backyard breeder, though, because they have no consequences, and you're not supporting the responsible breeder whose puppy you'd prefer to have, per your own admission. Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]
Even dogs from responsible breeders end up in the shelter, because the people who adopt aren't responsible. * Dogs in* shelters/rescues are not only from backyard breeders/puppy mills.
I will save a dog, rather than having someone breed one just for me. That is the why most people rescue. If you go to a breeder you are encouraging people to breed. Even if they are responsible in doing it, I still think they are contributing to the huge overpopulation problem.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:2a9b12ce-3044-4323-8f5d-6f7c069a9afe">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : It was with FI.. So, ya, we had already lived together.. My family sort of shunned me, when they found out (stupid mother has a big fuucking mouth), but it was MY choice to not die. Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
<div>I think you made the right decision. I would have done the exact same thing if I were in your shoes. </div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:255127c3-61bf-42b3-8258-97e136343787">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Me too. Sometime in the last few years I became a germaphobe and have started using a lot more of them. Posted by katiepoppy[/QUOTE]
<div>This. Because sponges scare the crap out of me.</div>
I'm all for adopting cats and dogs. When DH (FI at the time) were looking for a dog two years ago, we were looking in shelters and most places were getting puppies on a weekly basis. In addition to those pups, most of the grown adult dogs we met were very friendly. We ended up getting Bear at 8 weeks old and he is the best thing that ever happened to us, as cheese as that sounds. He's a golden retriver/lab mix with probably a bit of chow and border collie and is SUPER friendly. He should be a poster boy for shelter dogs
I'm all pro-life. No one should tell anyone what they can and can not do with their own body. Do some people abuse the right? I'm sure, and that is very unfortunate. However it's not as unfortunate as young moms dying from trying to perform their own abortions, suicide and unloved babies brought into the world bc people didn't have that choice.
So those are my two pennies on those two things.
My flame-worthy confession? I got tanning sometimes. I hate the way I look super pale. I also confess that I judge people who do not visit friends/family in the hospital who are in critical condition because "it's too hard for them". I think it's BS. We have a friend who was in a horrible accident two weeks ago who is paralized below the waist and still hasn't woken up from a coma. A bunch of our friends haven't gone to see him "because it would be too hard to see him that way". So selfish.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:215cf500-2d9a-4362-b582-82cf2db1ced0">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]I'm a pro-lifer and respect the fact that other people have a different opinion than I do so I don't try to force my opinions on someone. If someone asks for my opinion I'll give it and leave it at that. I firmly believe that if a child is not meant to be born God (or mother nature/natural selection/whatever you choose to call it) will intervene and the woman will miscarry, however far along she may be in the pregnancy. Posted by strlzfan11[/QUOTE] there's a ton of abandoned, abused, and orphaned children who would disagree with you
My flammable confession: I bought my dog from a lady who probably turned around and cashed my check for meth money. FI and I were at my parents' house over Fourth of July weekend, and we had gone into town to get something to eat. We were driving back, and I saw this sign on the side of the road that said "Yorkie/chihuahua puppies for sale." So we stopped. Ever seen Deliverance? This lady lived in the squel like a pig house. There were dogs everywhere. There was a trailer raised up off the ground, and it had chicken wire running from the bottom of the trailer to the ground to make a makeshift dog pen. Turbodog was the last of his litter and as icky as the place made me, I couldn't bear to leave that poor dog there to suffer the fate of the rest of the dogs. Squalor and misery. So I bought him. From a backyard breeder. This woman really did look methy.
Pinot, that's sad, but I honestly don't think it's awful of your dog. It's what happens when animals are not properly controlled, and in this case I'm talking about your neighbors not properly controlling their cats which led to the whole situation.
Is there no law that would let you report them? Having a huge population of wild animals can't be healthy, wild animals have bugs and diseases.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:7a0d43ff-1628-48f2-af3b-20e2eabc1bd0">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : 2 of my 4 cats showed up at my door. I think the word is out in the homeless cat population that my house is the place to go. I've been feeding a little guy lately - haven't been able to catch him yet. We named him Word. Posted by kellyjellybelly[/QUOTE]
<div>Word! *throws gangsign*</div><div> </div><div>My husband has a very real fear that someday I will turn into a crazy cat lady. Luckily for him, we are currently in an apartment that has a restriction on how many we can have. </div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:060e69d6-609d-4ea8-98de-0724d8f6206f">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Most people don't think about it, because I think in most cases, it's pretty clear what the woman would do. The ONLY time I wish abortion was illegal, is in those situations where the woman uses it as BC. I hate / know people like that.. Someone I went to HS with had 3 abortions her Junior Year alone.. Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I completely agree with that. I hate women who just use it a BC and I know several who have also. I also think it's horrible when someone aborts far into the pregnancy just because they changed their mind. A girl in high school did this. She decided at 6 1/2 months she didn't want to keep a baby and couldn't "bear to adopt it out" so she had an abortion. She wasn't very popular after that.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:86546c4d-a465-44db-a40e-da44d36dc8e6">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : That is absolutely sickening. And pinot, I'm glad your dog is okay! And if they try to report her, you should totally call Animal Control on them. Because what they are doing to their cats is awful. Have you ever seen that Animal Hoarders show on Animal Planet? Yuck. Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]
I have seen that show and it scares me. Everyone keeps telling me if they were to report my dog they would be in more trouble due to all their pets and the outdoor dogs they have that spend 24/7 on a tiny leash tied to tree.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_flammable-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:dec3dac2-2538-48b2-8bfd-0c417b133f6fPost:09638598-bacb-4247-a49f-ac39e52a227a">Re: Flammable Confessions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : And I love you for hating them for me.. We've kind of "moved past it" as much as possible.. I still cry on the day every year, and most likely always will.. I want to be a mother more than anything else, and it hurt a lot to have to be that selfish. I don't regret it, necessarily, because my thought is: If I was supposed to have that baby, my life wouldn't have been in jeopardy. Simple as that. Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I don't really see your choice as selfish. Had you died, the baby more than likely wouldn't have survived either right? So it was either an abortion or both of you die. You did the right thing, and I'm sure your FI (H?) totally agrees, since I'm sure he wants you around :) And I do agree with you, if that baby was meant to be here, then your situation would have been much different.
Re: Flammable Confessions
[QUOTE]Even though we have decided to have one baby... if I got pregnant tomorrow I can 90% say that I wouldn't keep it. I have waaaay too much I want to do before I devote my life to a screaming, pooping child. There's my flammable confession.
Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]
Good, because I for one am not ready to listen to all your talk about yuor PERFIKT BEBE and we all know that's what you'd do because YOU ARE A BRAGGER, MANDY. A BRAGGER OF PERFECT.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I have a friend who had an ectopic pregnancy and had to go to planned parenthood to take care of it. she and her boyfriend lived together already and would've kept the baby otherwise. but people threw things at her and called her horrible names. those people make me stabby.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
It was with FI.. So, ya, we had already lived together.. My family sort of shunned me, when they found out (stupid mother has a big fuucking mouth), but it was MY choice to not die.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : IS THIS A SPOILER?!?
Posted by vallyhoo[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess <em>technically</em>. I's sowwies! I keep forgetting you're so.close. to the end.
But you had to have sort of guessed the gist of the ending already, no?
[QUOTE] B) all the paper towels I waste
Posted by georgia_bride09[/QUOTE]
Me too. Sometime in the last few years I became a germaphobe and have started using a lot more of them.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Sorry, but I think that's lame. He should want you to be happy and comfortable with the way you look. Edit: I'm not saying that you aren't...I'm just saying that I don't understand why someone's husband wouldn't be supportive of that decision. Botox isn't like a boob job. It's really not a big deal and it wears off.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]
Salt, I remember you telling me to go for it last time I talked about this. In my case, if I told H that this was something I really wanted and that it was important to me, I'm sure he'd think I was silly but would support me. But since right now it's more of a little thing I'm curious about, I wouldn't be able to honestly say it was super important to me, and I also care more about him thinking I'm being silly than I do about doing it. In a few years, that may well change.
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[QUOTE]Flameable Confession: I had an abortion 3 years ago.. I was so sick, and would have died had I stayed pregnant. I was in the hospital at least twice a week for 2 1/2 months, from fainting, and I lost 20 lbs.. I would not have lived through 9 months, and I wasn't willing to risk my life and my not being able to have more kids. However, I would never do it again. Even if I had the same risk. I would not do that to myself again. It was a horrible experience. BUT, I'm completely pro-choice. I don't think men in government should tell women they can't have one, when they will personally never be in that situation. That is all. Oh, and I have no preference to animals.. Sorry. I would love one, but I would probably adopt, just cuz it's cheaper.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
<div>On this note, I confess that about 8 years ago, I was ready to exercise my right to choose, but my body ended up deciding for me. My cousin and my BF at the time are the only ones that knew. I am so thankful I didn't have to go through with the decision or the pregnancy. I was not fit to be a mother at that point in time. I am so excited to start TTC in November and I am so ready now. So I guess my confession is that 8 years ago I had a miscarriage and am not at all sad about it. </div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Well, I guess technically . I's sowwies! I keep forgetting you're so.close. to the end. But you had to have sort of guessed the gist of the ending already, no?
Posted by georgia_bride09[/QUOTE]
s'okay! well of course I try to guess the ending but I was SO wrong with HBP. So wrong.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I agree that's a hard subject and not exactly fair, but it's not exactly fair to force a woman to abort. I think it would be fair for said parent to be able to terminate his parental rights, legally, however. As for the former, no, I think it's fine for a woman to want to terminate even if her partner wants to keep it. If he wants to keep it, he can carry it in his uterus for 9 months.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
I do not think it's fair to force an abortion either. If the woman wants to keep the baby then that's great. I just don't think she should be allowed to take a man to court for support when it was well known by her that he did not want children. The reason I bring this up is because I know two women who had abortion even though their partners at the time wanted the child. They even offered to become a single parent and that she wouldn't have to be involved at all. But because it was their body they had the right to choose. Then I also know a man who let it be completely known he did not want children. Everyone knew he didn't The girl he was with was on BC but took antibiotics and neither of them knew that it could cause you to get pregnant. She did and she kept the baby so now he pays child support for a child that she knew he did not want. He even tried to have his rights terminated and the courts said no he still had to pay her CS.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : It was with FI.. So, ya, we had already lived together.. My family sort of shunned me, when they found out (stupid mother has a big fuucking mouth), but it was MY choice to not die.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I think it's total bullshit that your family would act that way when your LIFE was at stake. I hate them for you.
If anyone wants to value some cells that only have potential to become life over my 26 year old self, they can go play in traffic. (I'm obviously very pro-choice)
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[QUOTE]Flameable Confession: I had an abortion 3 years ago.. I was so sick, and would have died had I stayed pregnant. I was in the hospital at least twice a week for 2 1/2 months, from fainting, and I lost 20 lbs.. I would not have lived through 9 months, and I wasn't willing to risk my life and my not being able to have more kids. However, I would never do it again. Even if I had the same risk. I would not do that to myself again. It was a horrible experience. BUT, I'm completely pro-choice. I don't think men in government should tell women they can't have one, when they will personally never be in that situation. That is all. Oh, and I have no preference to animals.. Sorry. I would love one, but I would probably adopt, just cuz it's cheaper.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I didn't think about this type of situation when I originally posted about this topic. I think I probably would abort if there was some medical reason that would greatly jeapordize my health and it was a known factor. I also wasn't thinking about medical issues where it is known that the baby will not live. A good friend of mine was told at 4 months her baby had some rare disease and it wouldn't survive more than a few hours. It was so sad. She couldn't afford to have an abortion so she carried out the pregnancy knowing her baby was going to die when he was born. It was some lung thing where his lungs were not developing the way they should and they couldn't fix the problem, so he basically just gasped for air for about and hour and a half until his lungs just couldn't take any more. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" />
I just think you're fighting a losing battle with the backyard breeders, and making it harder for the ones who are responsible. You're just addressing the symptom (too many dogs in shelters) and not the root cause (overbreeding).
Clearly we're not going to agree. But I really hate the push on here to ONLY provide homes to shelter dogs. They're not the only ones that can be loving members of your family. Certainly don't exclude them. But I don't see how being exclusive about them helps anything, really. I'm all for a solution. I just advocate treating the root cause, not the symptoms.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I think it's total bullshit that your family would act that way when your LIFE was at stake. I hate them for you. If anyone wants to value some cells that only have potential to become life over my 26 year old self, they can go play in traffic. (I'm obviously very pro-choice)
Posted by cengle[/QUOTE]
And I love you for hating them for me.. We've kind of "moved past it" as much as possible.. I still cry on the day every year, and most likely always will.. I want to be a mother more than anything else, and it hurt a lot to have to be that selfish. I don't regret it, necessarily, because my thought is: If I was supposed to have that baby, my life wouldn't have been in jeopardy. Simple as that.
I firmly believe that if a child is not meant to be born God (or mother nature/natural selection/whatever you choose to call it) will intervene and the woman will miscarry, however far along she may be in the pregnancy.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : I didn't think about this type of situation when I originally posted about this topic. I think I probably would abort if there was some medical reason that would greatly jeapordize my health and it was a known factor. I also wasn't thinking about medical issues where it is known that the baby will not live. A good friend of mine was told at 4 months her baby had some rare disease and it wouldn't survive more than a few hours. It was so sad. She couldn't afford to have an abortion so she carried out the pregnancy knowing her baby was going to die when he was born. It was some lung thing where his lungs were not developing the way they should and they couldn't fix the problem, so he basically just gasped for air for about and hour and a half until his lungs just couldn't take any more.
Posted by spechtholdn[/QUOTE]
Most people don't think about it, because I think in most cases, it's pretty clear what the woman would do.
The ONLY time I wish abortion was illegal, is in those situations where the woman uses it as BC. I hate / know people like that.. Someone I went to HS with had 3 abortions her Junior Year alone..
My confession: Oh boy. My neighbors are, in my opinion, animal hoarders and have a feral cat colony living/reproducing on their property about 25/30 cats. My large dog loves to chase them off my property and she got loose during the chase last week and was able to catch a cat. :-( Cat did not survive. I'm so upset about it and I'm afraid they may report my dog to the state and have her put on a dangerous dog list even though she is not dangerous. He also fired 2 gun shots at my dog (she is OK, not hit) because he thought she was the racoon that killed a couple of his cats last week.
[QUOTE]Celles, you're effectively rewarding the backyard breeder, though, because they have no consequences, and you're not supporting the responsible breeder whose puppy you'd prefer to have, per your own admission. Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]
Even dogs from responsible breeders end up in the shelter, because the people who adopt aren't responsible. * Dogs in* shelters/rescues are not only from backyard breeders/puppy mills.
I will save a dog, rather than having someone breed one just for me. That is the why most people rescue. If you go to a breeder you are encouraging people to breed. Even if they are responsible in doing it, I still think they are contributing to the huge overpopulation problem.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : It was with FI.. So, ya, we had already lived together.. My family sort of shunned me, when they found out (stupid mother has a big fuucking mouth), but it was MY choice to not die.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
<div>I think you made the right decision. I would have done the exact same thing if I were in your shoes. </div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Me too. Sometime in the last few years I became a germaphobe and have started using a lot more of them.
Posted by katiepoppy[/QUOTE]
<div>This. Because sponges scare the crap out of me.</div>
I'm all pro-life. No one should tell anyone what they can and can not do with their own body. Do some people abuse the right? I'm sure, and that is very unfortunate. However it's not as unfortunate as young moms dying from trying to perform their own abortions, suicide and unloved babies brought into the world bc people didn't have that choice.
So those are my two pennies on those two things.
My flame-worthy confession? I got tanning sometimes. I hate the way I look super pale.
I also confess that I judge people who do not visit friends/family in the hospital who are in critical condition because "it's too hard for them". I think it's BS. We have a friend who was in a horrible accident two weeks ago who is paralized below the waist and still hasn't woken up from a coma. A bunch of our friends haven't gone to see him "because it would be too hard to see him that way". So selfish.
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[QUOTE]I'm a pro-lifer and respect the fact that other people have a different opinion than I do so I don't try to force my opinions on someone. If someone asks for my opinion I'll give it and leave it at that. I firmly believe that if a child is not meant to be born God (or mother nature/natural selection/whatever you choose to call it) will intervene and the woman will miscarry, however far along she may be in the pregnancy.
Posted by strlzfan11[/QUOTE]
there's a ton of abandoned, abused, and orphaned children who would disagree with you
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Is there no law that would let you report them? Having a huge population of wild animals can't be healthy, wild animals have bugs and diseases.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : 2 of my 4 cats showed up at my door. I think the word is out in the homeless cat population that my house is the place to go. I've been feeding a little guy lately - haven't been able to catch him yet. We named him Word.
Posted by kellyjellybelly[/QUOTE]
<div>Word! *throws gangsign*</div><div>
</div><div>My husband has a very real fear that someday I will turn into a crazy cat lady. Luckily for him, we are currently in an apartment that has a restriction on how many we can have. </div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : Most people don't think about it, because I think in most cases, it's pretty clear what the woman would do. The ONLY time I wish abortion was illegal, is in those situations where the woman uses it as BC. I hate / know people like that.. Someone I went to HS with had 3 abortions her Junior Year alone..
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I completely agree with that. I hate women who just use it a BC and I know several who have also. I also think it's horrible when someone aborts far into the pregnancy just because they changed their mind. A girl in high school did this. She decided at 6 1/2 months she didn't want to keep a baby and couldn't "bear to adopt it out" so she had an abortion. She wasn't very popular after that.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : That is absolutely sickening. And pinot, I'm glad your dog is okay! And if they try to report her, you should totally call Animal Control on them. Because what they are doing to their cats is awful. Have you ever seen that Animal Hoarders show on Animal Planet? Yuck.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]
I have seen that show and it scares me. Everyone keeps telling me if they were to report my dog they would be in more trouble due to all their pets and the outdoor dogs they have that spend 24/7 on a tiny leash tied to tree.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flammable Confessions : And I love you for hating them for me.. We've kind of "moved past it" as much as possible.. I still cry on the day every year, and most likely always will.. I want to be a mother more than anything else, and it hurt a lot to have to be that selfish. I don't regret it, necessarily, because my thought is: If I was supposed to have that baby, my life wouldn't have been in jeopardy. Simple as that.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]
I don't really see your choice as selfish. Had you died, the baby more than likely wouldn't have survived either right? So it was either an abortion or both of you die. You did the right thing, and I'm sure your FI (H?) totally agrees, since I'm sure he wants you around :)
And I do agree with you, if that baby was meant to be here, then your situation would have been much different.