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laladypoet · August 2009

Nobody has to go through that kind of sh*t to know that it's horrible, it shouldn't have happened, and it's wrong.um, *I* haven't had to deal with what you've had to deal with, and I can say with all certainty that I *DON'T* understand what it's like. it's okay to not understand, doesn't mean you can't sympathize. but unless you've experienced something (no matter what it is) you can't understand.

NuggetBrain · August 2009

I'm done with this, I'm going to end up saying something that's going to get me kicked off the Knot and this sh*t isn't worth it.

crfische · August 2009

Nugget, if you get kicked off the knot, I'm coming in after you with a lifepreserver and a couple of ores.

mrsAE · August 2009

Actually, if you want to know, iu, I am the one who found my grandfather when he hung himself when I was seven and have witnessed other deaths. I am not arguing loss in general, my entire point has been the loss from the Holocaust is hard for people to understand, not loss in general.

laladypoet · August 2009

unless you have a Torah and Talmud education.I don't think she's saying she's smarter (not in this thread anyway) but she's telling the truth. educating about religion is a very intricate thing, no matter the religion. I wouldn't expect a non-Catholic to know the stations of the cross. (just an example)

alixzafiris · August 2009

[i]I'm coming in after you with a lifepreserver and a couple of ores.[/i] Would these be like, gold ores?

jessjo04 · August 2009

Yeah. Knot purgatory sucks, but we dont have a modzilla. But I'm also going to let this go. I've made my point.

mrsAE · August 2009

You're right, Jessjo, you have proved your point, that you're an ignorant jackass.

georgia_bride09 · August 2009

Oars would be more effective.

laladypoet · August 2009

I'm done with this, I'm going to end up saying something that's going to get me kicked off the Knot and this sh*t isn't worth it.don't know if this is from what I've said or not, but sorry if it is. basically I meant that I don't understand how much racism can hurt. I feel it would be wrong if I did pretend like I know how it feels.also, I don't think AE said ANYWHERE that her life is miserable. she said that she's lost people in the holocaust, people acted like she was full of it, she named who she lost, people still thought she was full of it. IMO, any douchery in this thread is not coming from AE's direction. some of you don't like her, but don't put words in her mouth.

NuggetBrain · August 2009

um, *I* haven't had to deal with what you've had to deal with, and I can say with all certainty that I *DON'T* understand what it's like. it's okay to not understand, doesn't mean you can't sympathize. but unless you've experienced something (no matter what it is) you can't understand.You don't understand that it's wrong? Really? You think its okay to go around tossing people into gas chambers and stringing them up from trees? Because if so, please give me your name and address so I can send someone to lock you the f*ck up before you kill somebody. Otherwise, I don't sit there and try to make people feel bad because they don't understand what its like. They are LUCKY they don't understand it, they're lucky they've never had to go through that kind of sh*t. I use what was done to me and my people as a lesson in life, to grow and learn from. It is a part of me but it DOES NOT define me. I've had people come up to me and say some of the most off the wall sh*t you could imagine, like "why don't black girls wash their hair every day?" and "black people make me so uncomfortable." Sometimes, because people don't understand, they are ignorant. And by feeding into that ignorance (like, say, by screaming at them about how they're Nazi sympathizers and don't understaaaaand what it's like to be a Jew) instead of actually DISCUSSING stuff, explaining what it means to you, answering their questions and NOT making them feel like assholes for asking or expressing their opinions, no matter how off the wall or wierd it is, you're not doing anything to help the situtation.Right. Now I really am done. Because I don't want to start cussing at my computer at work.

laladypoet · August 2009

again: basically I meant that I don't understand how much racism can hurt. I feel it would be wrong if I did pretend like I know how it feels.obviously I know it's wrong. knowing it's wrong, and knowing exactly how it feels, are two different things.

laladypoet · August 2009

just like I know rape is wrong. or homophobia. having not been a victim of these things, I don't know how it feels, but it doesn't stop me from caring about those issues.and I wasn't saying people should feel bad about not having experienced those things. I just don't think people should say they "know how it feels" when they don't. that's not a bad thing.don't read into things that aren't there. I'm not responsible for the chip on your shoulder.

mrsAE · August 2009

And by feeding into that ignorance (like, say, by screaming at them about how they're Nazi sympathizers and don't understaaaaand what it's like to be a Jew) instead of actually DISCUSSING stuff So, you're like one of those newbs that lack reading comprehension and/or just don't read what people write before saying it. I have explained and mentioned many reasons why I feel this way. If you actually read what I wrote, you would have seen that.

wadingmoose · August 2009

1. I think the holocaust is a horrible injustice perpetrated by evil people.2. I really do think that compassion is one of the important qualities that separates good from evil.My only point in that 6 month old thread is #2.Who, exactly is putting words in someone else's mouth?And, seriously, you went BSC crazy on me in two threads (ok, three with this one) today over something from 6 months ago?

jasmineh7777 · August 2009

People are damaged, by varying degrees. And that sucks.I get that these are sensitive issues, but maybe if you've been hurt by intolerance then you can honor those you love by showing tolerance towards others. Being tolerant doesn't mean you have to agree, because everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, it does mean being respectfully, and swearing and name calling isn't exactly the way to be respectful.

AmoroAgain · August 2009

Nugget, I think Lala means that she hasn't felt racism, so she doesn't know what it would be like. Not that she participates in it. She would never.

mrsAE · August 2009

Genocidal murders do not deserve compassion from anyone, ever, Holocaust, Darfur, or elsewhere. I told you then that I am done with you and I meant it. Your comments disgusted me and my opinion will not change.

laladypoet · August 2009

Who, exactly is putting words in someone else's mouth?I was more referring to jessjo.

jasmineh7777 · August 2009

What a fun thread to come back to, eh Wading?

PandaBurr · August 2009

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Ciaram22 · August 2009

I don't want to sound rude here. But if you don't like the things someone says why don't you just block her and be done with it?

laladypoet · August 2009

Not that she participates in it. She would never.not true, I throw tortillas at my husband all the time.if you'll excuse me, I'm late for my KKK rally.

ricksang · August 2009

LMAO. I have no idea what anyone has said in this thread ,but the pictures Burr posted are fukcing hilarious.

laladypoet · August 2009

I just wish nugget would come back and explain what she thought I meant. cause I'm confused.

AmoroAgain · August 2009

Aw, Lala... I knew we were star-crossed lovers. I cover my FI in soy sauce all the time. Course, I lick it off him, but that's neither here nor there.

katiewhompus · August 2009

*floods the room with calming pheremones...*Unless you are part of a group affected (even by knowing much and feeling emotionally connected to the group) it is difficult to understand the depth of emotion connected to events. During high school I received death threats after it came out that I had Native American blood in me. I do take insult to things like "Redskins" being a national football name or hearing "kill the Indians" at football games. An entire population was nearly wiped out on purpose in order to make way for "America" because "God said they were inferior". Most people would say, "it happened get over it" but when your Grandfather still won't discuss his childhood and your father cries when you say you're going to cut your hair short, it's difficult.Can we all just move along now? There is no end to this debate and just a lot of hurt feelings.

wadingmoose · August 2009

This conversation is going nowhere. You've decided what I meant and you're not going to let that go.Have at 'er.

pumpkinpumpkin · August 2009

I agree, then forget about Wading, and block her, E. Seriously, if you're THAT serious about being done with her...do something about it, rather than beating a dead horse.

mrsAE · August 2009

I don't block people and can respond where I choose. I am done with her and have been since then. I can still comment about a topic. I don't have anyone here on block.

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