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The Water's Edge - READ BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR WEDDING HERE!

Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} It has taken me almost a month to work up the courage to write my wedding day experience.  After I type this, I plan on forgetting what happened and do my best at putting all of this behind me; remembering my wedding day for what it was, a beautiful day. I am going to do my best at keeping this short AND factual, so hopefully as many brides in the New York area can learn from this: The Water’s Edge (Long Island City, NY), is now under new management/owners AFTER we signed our contract last year to have our wedding there.  Many things were promised to us by the previous owners that we never received during the switchover. After a food tasting, where the venue treated us very well, and some “extra’s” were thrown into our wedding package because of the unfulfilled promises, the two of us were feeling good, and we prepared for our big day.  We arrived at the Water’s Edge on the day of our wedding with our wedding party ready to celebrate.  There were 3 people introduced to us, the Maitre d and 2 bridal attendants.  Our Maitre d, whom we had already met at another meeting, seemed warm and friendly.  The other 2 were very much aloof and not really with it, but with the chaos of a wedding I was not too concerned. The gifts that were handed to us were transferred to our bridal suite throughout the night until the end of the wedding celebration where many gifts were put on our table and never brought to the bridal suite (which by the way does not lock). Exactly at midnight when the wedding ended, we had numerous first hand accounts from a few of our friends who saw about 25 envelopes and a small red box (I think a Macy’s jewelry box) still sitting on our bride and groom table.  During the chaos of the wedding ending, and half the guests being ushered to the after party boat cruise, we forgot about the gifts that were left on our table while we went on the boat ride.  From that point on, those 25 envelopes and red box with cash in it were never found again. On a separate issue, two of my bridesmaid’s and the groom’s mother were ASSURED by our Maitre d that we would have access to the Bridal Suite upon our return which was at 2am.  Upon returning to the venue, my husband and I were shocked when we found ALL of our personal belongings (veil, shoes, makeup, bags, purses, and what we had of the GIFTS) on a push cart sitting in a hallway on the lower level of the venue.  So long story short our personal stuff was picked up, picked through and brought down to a high traffic area without anyone standing with our belongings.  Thinking we had everything, we loaded up our limo and headed to our hotel. The next day and after a long night, and a morning Brunch, we were finally able to open our gifts at 5pm Saturday, (day after our wedding).  To our dismay about 1/3 of our gifts were missing.  We knew we would have some people who would order off the registry and/ or mail us gifts in a few months, but 1/3 seemed like a very large amount to be missing.  After making a separate list of who we did not receive gifts from, we realized that many of the people on this list physically handed us gifts.  We knew we had to make a decision before our gifts were put into the wrong hands and as humiliating as it was, literally called every single person we did not receive a gift from, asking them if they did hand us an envelope, get their story and kindly ask that they cancel their checks.  We then proceeded to call the venue and tell them what happened.  The coordinator assured us everything would be okay, and agreed to show us the surveillance tapes so we could see firsthand what happened to the red box and envelopes.  We offered to come to the Water’s Edge and sift through the trash for our missing gifts (what we estimated were around $5,000 in cash and checks) a few hours before we left for our honeymoon, just in case they had been thrown out by mistake. We were denied access, and were blatantly told ‘none of the Water’s Edge staff would throw out such a large amount of envelopes and a jewelry box.’  We TOLD the Water’s Edge that we unfortunately will not be around for 2 weeks (as hard as it was for us to leave), but that the groom’s parents would be calling to schedule an appointment to watch the tapes so we all could have peace of mind and TRY to get to the bottom of the mystery as to where the gifts went, knowing they never made it from the bride and groom table to the Bridal Suite.  The banquet manager agreed to comply and meet with our parents while we were away. My husband’s parents called the Water’s Edge trying to set up a time to watch the tapes but had a very difficult time getting in touch with the manager. A severe lack of customer service and callbacks were to blame for the more than 2 week time lapse for scheduling a few minutes to look at the tapes that had recorded the bride/groom table the entire night.  The way that our family was treated regarding this serious issue was a complete joke and outright wrong. I am appalled at how this was all handled, especially after spending so much of our hard earned money to have our wedding here.  I felt that we were owed respect and courtesy, NONE of which were received. My husband and I were on our way to the venue for our scheduled appointment to view the tapes and literally 15 minutes before, we received a call saying the tapes had been deleted.  The call was from someone that we had never dealt with before. I can’t explain what I think of when I think of my wedding day, but imagine a crime being committed on what is supposed to be the most memorable night of your life.  The Water’s Edge has been so awful to us and our family since our wedding night that we are shocked and angry; and never want anyone to experience what we did.  From managers blatantly telling us to sue them if we are insinuating that one of their employees did something with the envelopes, to not calling us back.  The only way we are going to get over this is to put this behind us, but not until as many people as possible know about what we went through with this venue.  If we didn’t do this, it would be an injustice to other people getting married at the Water’s Edge. Even though writing this was somewhat therapeutic, the only advice I can offer if you are getting married at the Water’s Edge is to WATCH YOUR BELONGINGS because you never know who will touch them without your permission.  Surveillance tapes were deleted after they knew we had gifts missing from their venue.  Our only assumption is that there was something on those tapes the venue did not want us to see.     The Waters Edge says that we could pay an outside company $1200-2500 to ‘recover’ the surveillance tapes (which we cannot afford to do).  They should have saved the video recordings from our wedding night immediately after we called about the stolen/misplaced envelopes; there is no excuse for them not doing that.  At the very least, it would have shed light as to what happened, absolving the venue of any wrongdoing, and not having such an angry customer along with dozens of our guests who know how we were treated. All I can do is keep thinking positive thoughts and look at the pictures I took before this crime was committed and my day was ruined. Thank you for reading.

Re: The Water's Edge - READ BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR WEDDING HERE!

  • gorjushgorjush member
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    edited December 2011
    that is absolutely, horrendously, atrociously AWFUL and i am so so sorry this had to happen to you. i don't think any of us here envision something like this happening to us on such a momentous day. have you gotten the police involved? do you have any recourse such as small claims court? you have so many witnesses to what was stolen. see what recourse you have before you report them to the BBB. GL!!!
  • riverjibriverjib member
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    edited December 2011
    That's absolutely horrible!! I'm sorry you had to go through this. I am currently looking for venues in Queens, and not only will I not consider the Waters Edge, but I'll also spread the word.
  • smsuziesmsuzie member
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    edited December 2011
    So very very sorry. No words can explain how sorry we feel. Go forward and be happy.
  • edited December 2011
    wow, that is horrible!! i am so sorry you are going through this. have you spoken to a lawyer to see if you have any recourse? you might have some options, especially if your contract describes the bridal suite as secure. friends of mine got married there 3 years ago and it was wonderful--how awful that the new management are so untrustworthy!!
  • hocus999hocus999 member
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    edited December 2011
    We have made the decision to not file a police report because we know we wouldn't get our money back and per the venue and other lawyer friends nothing would really come of it other than our guests and vendors getting called by the police and questioned.  After putting our guests through what we have put them through already (canceling checks, etc.) we don't want police accusing them of stealing!Whoever is this criminal at Water's Edge, they picked the right couple to pry on unfortunately because we would LOVE to sue, but neither myself nor my husband have time to do so (I work 10 hour days and he works all day and goes to school at night).    It really is a shame because I have heard about this stuff happening, just didn't think it would be us or a place we handed over thousands and thousands of dollars to.
  • MrsKocalMrsKocal member
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    edited December 2011
    I am so sorry you had to deal with this. I remember when I was planning, another bride had an AWFUL experience with this venue - so much so that she made a website specifically to expose them. But many other brides have had good experiences, so I figured her wedding was a fluke. But this is completely unacceptable, and it is good that you share your experience with other brides so that they can make informed decisions.
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  • edited December 2011
    I'm so sorry that what should have been a perfect day was turned into what it was. If you don't want to file a police report, which is understandable, you might want to at least consider filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. And thank for posting here.
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  • alisonzalisonz member
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    edited December 2011
    I would definitely file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. All you really need to do that is what you have already written and posted above.I'm so sorry this happened!

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  • Jamilynn627Jamilynn627 member
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    edited December 2011
    I am so sorry. That's appalling! You should definitely file a complaint with BBB and post reviews on every site you can (insider pages, weddingwire, etc.). I would also consider contacting a local media outlet to notify them of your experience. Perhaps if the story gets out there, the venue will be pressured to resolve this.
  • edited December 2011
    Ditto; no one wants bad publicity.  If you get a local station to cover the story, don't be surprised if you get a call from them with your money returned to you. I was considering this place a while back and remembered when I went to the site that things changed; now I know, the ownership is different.  Definitely file with the BBB and just because you are busy, it doesn't mean you can't file a small claim and do everything via mail if you are unable to appear.  They will continue to do this if they feel they can get away with it. If you hadn't already paid your total balance, I would have suggested holding out.  But certainly going to sites like this (I'd also go to weddingwire.com and others) to review the vendors will help other brides avoid a similar fate.  Nothing says stay away like one or no stars on a review with a scathing review.  
  • gorjushgorjush member
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    edited December 2011
    this sounds like a story for NYOne!
  • edited December 2011
    I am late in reading this, but must second the fact that I think you should ABSOLUTELY call several of the local tv news stations to do a consumer report.   I am sure that they would pick this up in a second and as others said, Water's Edge would not want this bad publicity, particularly given their new management and redecoration, etc.. they will absolutely do something to compensate you for your loss.  They probably have insurance for this exact kind of thing!! There is no reason why you should let this go and have to have this horrendous memory!  I know that you want to put it behind you and are busy, but this place shouldn't go unpunished- they'll do it to others!  It was likely not the management itself that did this but they did allow it to happen.  You spent a lot of money on your wedding and had a reasonable expectation that your things would be safe.  I wouldn't drop it so fast.. 
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  • mccloskmmccloskm member
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    edited December 2011
    i am appalled for you. that is terrible. i dont know why you wouldnt file a police report. its right that it may not result in an arrest, etc, but you would be surprised how surveillance becomes undeleted or info comes out once the police, news media, etc gets involved. i know you are busy, but if you really want to get some kind of result (whether it be bad press for the water's edge, make them do background checks, monitor their own employees more closely for the sake of future brides) then you should take some action, even if its a BBB complaint. All you have to do is take a few minutes to make a complaint, hire an attorney, or whatever you want to do, then it's someone elses responsibility to investigate. good luck, sorry you had such a horrible experience.  
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