There's a time and place for everything

[Deleted User] · July 2012

"New Yahoo CEO says she'll work through maternity leave"

Honestly, you can't do it all and I don't care how much help you have.

Yahoo announced Monday that Marissa Mayer, a former Google executive, was taking the reins of the technology company, and hours later it was disclosed that she was also expecting her first child in October.

Mayer chose to disclose her pregnancy to the company’s board before she got the final job offer, and the board was supposedly fine and dandy with the news.

"They showed their evolved thinking," Mayer told Fortune.

Yahoo's board may have been reassured by Mayer's unusual description of how she plans to handle the time off she will take to have a baby.

"My maternity leave will be a few weeks long and I'll work throughout it," Mayer said.

It's the kind of news that may get other pregnant women at Yahoo further down the chain worried about the time they put in after childbirth.

Many executives in Corporate America today tout how they lead by example and show their employees that work-life balance is critical. Taking emails while dealing with a newborn might be tougher than first-time-mom-to-be Mayer realizes.

NcsuPsych · July 2012

OP, is there a point to your post? Are you saying that you don't think she can do it?

GinaV0822 · July 2012

I have no children and don't plan to, but this article makes me think that maybe it could lead to a time where companies will not give as much maternity leave down the line. They'll see this and say women only need a couple weeks off, what's the big deal. Or they will expect them to work during their leave. Not saying the women can't do it, but maybe companies come to expect more from a woman taking a maternity leave.

Maybe that's the point she was trying to make? If not, that's my point of view.

marriedfilingjointly · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:15b2be7b-c8ec-4cc1-8909-3749532115cf">Re: There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]I have no children and don't plan to, but this article makes me think that maybe it could lead to a time where companies will not give as much maternity leave down the line. They'll see this and say women only need a couple weeks off, what's the big deal. Or they will expect them to work during their leave. Not saying the women can't do it, but maybe companies come to expect more from a woman taking a maternity leave. Maybe that's the point she was trying to make? If not, that's my point of view.
Posted by GinaV0822[/QUOTE]

<div>Luckily, that's doubtful. FMLA allows for women to take up to 12 weeks off (usually unpaid) without fear of losing their jobs. From a global perspective, maternity benefits can't get much worse in America than they already are. We rank really low globally. Pakistan has more mom-friendly work laws than we do. </div>

[Deleted User] · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:15b2be7b-c8ec-4cc1-8909-3749532115cf">Re: There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]I have no children and don't plan to, but this article makes me think that maybe it could lead to a time where companies will not give as much maternity leave down the line. They'll see this and say women only need a couple weeks off, what's the big deal. Or they will expect them to work during their leave. Not saying the women can't do it, but maybe companies come to expect more from a woman taking a maternity leave. Maybe that's the point she was trying to make? If not, that's my point of view.
Posted by GinaV0822[/QUOTE]

excellent point

marriedfilingjointly · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:be71df1d-8581-4726-aaa0-4b74ebcdbb29">There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]"New Yahoo CEO says she'll work through maternity leave" Honestly, you can't do it all and I don't care how much help you have. Yahoo announced Monday that Marissa Mayer, a former Google executive, was taking the reins of the technology company, and hours later it was disclosed that she was also expecting her first child in October. Mayer chose to disclose her pregnancy to the company’s board before she got the final job offer, and the board was supposedly fine and dandy with the news. "They showed their evolved thinking," Mayer told Fortune . Yahoo's board may have been reassured by Mayer's unusual description of how she plans to handle the time off she will take to have a baby. "My maternity leave will be a few weeks long and I'll work throughout it," Mayer said. It's the kind of news that may get other pregnant women at Yahoo further down the chain worried about the time they put in after childbirth. Many executives in Corporate America today tout how they lead by example and show their employees that work-life balance is critical. Taking emails while dealing with a newborn might be tougher than first-time-mom-to-be Mayer realizes.
Posted by IamTheMommaOfTheBride[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>I'll bite. Work life balance in corporate America is a joke. As an alum of a company that is frequently listed as a "best company in Uh-mericuh for moms!," it's all publicity BS. Moms working through maternity leave is all too common. However, we all make choices. I didn't want to run that rat race, so I got out. I also took a paycut. Women are told that we can and should have it all. I don't want "it all."

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[Deleted User] · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:bf40dad4-0362-4955-afdc-9ad8a57e783f">Re: There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: There's a time and place for everything : Are you going to answer our question? What was your point? Are you judging this future mother because sh'es not parenting in the same way you did/are?
Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

I posted this because I was interested in the discussion that might take place here. I am not judging her as a bad mom to be, bad CEO, or anything.
I suppose my only opinion is you can't have it, do it all, something WILL suffer. Not sure if it will be her mental health, the stokeholders, the baby, or all three and more.

[Deleted User] · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:c2f2a376-ed6f-43e5-9751-1ec9a4830cec">Re: There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to There's a time and place for everything : I'll bite. Work life balance in corporate America is a joke. As an alum of a company that is frequently listed as a "best company in Uh-mericuh for moms!," it's all publicity BS. Moms working through maternity leave is all too common. However, we all make choices. I didn't want to run that rat race, so I got out. I also took a paycut. Women are told that we can and should have it all. I don't want "it all."
Posted by marriedfilingjointly[/QUOTE]

I could not say it better

RamonaFlowers · July 2012

Linger, I think OP might be trying to hide out here after lumping "fat" people into the group of uneasant people one wouldn't enjoy to fly with.

marriedfilingjointly · July 2012

Can I change my answer?

RailWayWife · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:7d6b0c37-4885-4a05-b997-4800c41fad72">Re: There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]Her baby Her maternity leave Her choice
Posted by ILoveMilkDuds[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I was thinking.

StephBeanWed61502 · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]Can I change my answer? Posted by marriedfilingjointly[/QUOTE]

Why? Because OP said something dumb about fat people in another thread? I don't see how that affects your opinion about Yahoo's CEO.

And FTR, I agree with Duds.

[Deleted User] · July 2012

well you misinterpreted the fat person remark.
my point was some airline flyers don't want to fly with anything that could potential disturb their time in the air.

so sorry if I came across as rude I did not mean it that way

StephBeanWed61502 · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]well you misinterpreted the fat person remark.my point was some airline flyers don't want to fly with anything that could potential disturb their time in the air.so sorry if I came across as rude I did not mean it that way Posted by IamTheMommaOfTheBride[/QUOTE]

So you don't judge fat people, just successful women who want to have babies and continue their successful careers at the same time. Got it.

[Deleted User] · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:5dc07159-bde7-4cca-8598-358b636cb127">Re:There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything: So you don't judge fat people, just successful women who want to have babies and continue their successful careers at the same time. Got it.
Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]

ehhh no try again
or not

Licia&Wayne · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:df2393c1-a270-4458-ab22-652814b4b288">Re:There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything : I think... you're wrong
Posted by IamTheMommaOfTheBride[/QUOTE]

I think...you're obnoxious.

[Deleted User] · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:0fc885e6-d4c9-492b-b15f-ede1d3c8d30b">Re:There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything : I think...you're obnoxious.
Posted by Licia&Wayne[/QUOTE]

opinions are what carry forums, while I do not appreciate yours, eh whatever....

marriedfilingjointly · July 2012

It doesn't. I was being cheeky. I don't disagree with Duds. I think my comment was relevant. I also didn't have a problem with OP's post on the airplane thread. Her point was that there are all kinds of people we'd rather not share the friendly skies with, it doesn't mean we get to dictate who flies.

StephBeanWed61502 · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything: So you don't judge fat people, just successful women who want to have babies and continue their successful careers at the same time. Got it.Posted by StephBeanWed61502ehhh nonbsp;nbsp; try againor not Posted by IamTheMommaOfTheBride[/QUOTE]

You have made it abundantly clear that you think what she's doing is wrong. That's a judgment, genius.

RamonaFlowers · July 2012

[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:In Response to Re: I think...you're obnoxious. Posted by LiciaWayne[/QUOTE]

I think...we should...make out...now

Licia&Wayne · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:c670e66e-1f4d-4333-b6c7-778962e1b0b4">Re:There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]I think...we should...make out...now
Posted by RamonaFlowers[/QUOTE]

I thought I was making out with you? Who is this person?

marriedfilingjointly · July 2012

SB, post about children on airplanes.

RamonaFlowers · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:I thought I was making out with you? Who is this person? Posted by LiciaWayne[/QUOTE]

What did I tell you about doing that special blue meth?!?!?!?

StephBeanWed61502 · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]Iam, if you want to start a discussion, you should probably include something like quot;what do you guys thinkquot; instead of just quot;you can't have it all, I don't care who you are or how much help you havequot;, which since you're asking what we think, I think is an utter crock. Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

Stage, didn't you get the memo? Children will SUFFER if they are cared for primarily by anyone other than their biological mother. For realz.

allychase · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]And, regarding the Yahoo CEO working through her maternity leave...In my entire career, I have never not even once had a vacation, a day off, or a shortterm disability leave during which I did no work. That's the price we all workers, not just women pay for having highpaying whitecollar jobs. Several years ago I suddenly became very ill and spent an entire night and morning in the ER on a morphine drip. I had no choice but to use that time to finish writing a bid for a multimillion dollar deal, because the bid was due by close of business that day. It was all on me; both the glory if I won the bid and the shtstorm if I lost it, so I had no choice. I don't find it strange at all that a CEO would plan to work during her maternity leave. Posted by LucyHC[/QUOTE]

Lucy didn't you say you had tons of free time? Right there you made it sound like you work 24/7. Not starting anything, I'm genuinely confused.

KatWAG · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:6d3dadaa-89ea-4216-abae-fb76a1733182">Re: There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]And, regarding the Yahoo CEO working through her maternity leave... In my entire career,<strong> I have never -- not even once -- had a vacation, a day off, or a short-term disability leave during which I did no work.</strong> That's the price we (all workers, not just women) pay for having high-paying white-collar jobs. Several years ago I suddenly became very ill and spent an entire night and morning in the ER on a morphine drip. I had no choice but to use that time to finish writing a bid for a multi-million dollar deal, because the bid was due by close of business that day. It was all on me; both the glory if I won the bid and the sh*tstorm if I lost it, so I had no choice. <strong>I don't find it strange at all that a CEO would plan to work during her maternity leave.
</strong>Posted by LucyHC[/QUOTE]

This. completely agree.

RamonaFlowers · July 2012

In regards to the actual OP, I think that comparing the experience of the fracking CEO of YAHOO to that of the average working American woman is comparing apples and great white sharks. MOST women aren't being expected to run a famous multibillion dollar corporation when they go on mat leave. I'm not saying other women aren't expected to work...but yeah, this IS a bit of a "special snowflake" situation here.

salt78 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_theres-a-time-and-place-for-everything?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:972fbe30-b9c6-4212-85bd-60a426858096Post:6d3dadaa-89ea-4216-abae-fb76a1733182">Re: There's a time and place for everything</a>:
[QUOTE]I don't find it strange at all that a CEO would plan to work during her maternity leave.
Posted by LucyHC[/QUOTE]

Ditto this. Hell, I'm not even a CEO and I had work to do during my maternity leave. I am the only one who can perform my job function in the company that I work for, so there were a few times when I had to do things from home or swing into the office for a bit.

RamonaFlowers · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:

Stage, didn't you get the memo? Children will SUFFER if they are cared for primarily by anyone other than their biological mother. For realz. Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]

Or the stock holders will SUFFER if a female CEO tries to raise her kid and hold her job. There is only ONE possible outcome here: SUFFERING. Sell off your Yahoo shares now. And get ready to call CPS for that poor child after it's born.

StephBeanWed61502 · July 2012

In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:[QUOTE]In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:In Response to Re:There's a time and place for everything:

Stage, didn't you get the memo? Children will SUFFER if they are cared for primarily by anyone other than their biological mother. For realz. Posted by StephBeanWed61502

Or the stock holders will SUFFER if a female CEO tries to raise her kid and hold her job. There is only ONE possible outcome here: SUFFERING. Sell off your Yahoo shares now. And get ready to call CPS for that poor child after it's born. Posted by RamonaFlowers[/QUOTE]

Ramona, if she is heartless enough to work through her maternity leave, that OBVIOUSLY proves her child is going to be horribly neglected in favor of the shareholders, so I am sure your stock value will be fine. Do call CPS though. After all, the only possible options here are that the child will be cared for by its mom or else NO ONE, so neglect is the inevitable outcome. It's not like babies can be cared for by fathers, aunts, uncles, grandparents, or extremely wellpaid and highly skilled nannies while Mom is working.

gmcr78 · July 2012

The fact that she is going to work through her leave only leads me to believe that she has a lot of help to be able to do that.
Anyway, I feel like it's nobody's business but hers and her company's. Especially considering that a lot of companies, mine included, don't even allow you to check your email while you're out on any kind of leave. Your access is cut off while you're out.

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