It's evening over here.

pokepoke27 · May 2012

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[QUOTE]One of my HS guidance counselors was amazing. His daughter was a jerk to me, but he was amazing. My junior high counselor can go fuckk herself or jump off a bridge. To this day, I think I'd be tempted to punch her if I ran into her at the grocery store. Petal, I'm assuming that since you're not crazypants, you're a good counselor. <strong>That is, you would never walk into an eighth grade band classroom with 65 kids and tell them that one of their classmates won't be in for the next week or two since she's been committed to a juvenile mental health facility after a suicide attempt. I am still pissed.</strong>
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]

<div>Say whaaaaaaat? Isn't that supposed to be....confidential?</div>

specialk84 · May 2012

Heads did roll. My father raised holy hell, but some things can't be unsaid.

And yeah, I was the missing kid. When I came back, some boys cornered me and grabbed my wrists to see my scars.

PetalPockets2012 · May 2012

I haven't had any problems with my contacts and crying that I remember. I can see well when I cry. The only time I have problems is if my eyes start watering from staring at the computer or start burning. Then it feels like they are going to fall out but they never have.

ETA - Special, I'm so sorry that happened. I know it was awhile ago but still. That would probably lose someone their job where I'm at.

ErinG93 · May 2012

Aw Special, I"m so sorry. That's insane.

[Deleted User] · May 2012

Oh special, I'm so sorry. People are so stupid and thoughtless sometimes, it's awful.

If I were you and I saw that lady in the grocery store, I would probably kick her.

pokepoke27 · May 2012

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[QUOTE]Heads did roll. My father raised holy hell, but some things can't be unsaid. And yeah, I was the missing kid. When I came back, some boys cornered me and grabbed my wrists to see my scars.
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Oh. My. God. I'm so sorry Special. What the eff was that woman thinking? She should never work with kids. I can't believe someone would do something like that. *hugs to your teenage self*

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ArynBaker · May 2012

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[QUOTE]Heads did roll. My father raised holy hell, but some things can't be unsaid. And yeah, I was the missing kid. When I came back, <strong>some boys cornered me and grabbed my wrists to see my scars.</strong>
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]

<div>That is awful! None of your teachers did anything? I'm with the others. If you see her you should give her a stern kick in the shins. </div>

J&K10910 · May 2012

Oh myg od Special. I would not have gone back to that school. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I want to junk punch those boys and hug you.

Sorry you had a craptasticular day, Erin. Why was it so bad? Or do you not want to share? That's fine too

specialk84 · May 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It's evening over here. : That is awful! None of your teachers did anything? I'm with the others. If you see her you should give her a stern kick in the shins.
Posted by ArynBaker[/QUOTE]

<div>My band teacher was outraged and is the one who notified my father. When the boys grabbed my wrists, I didn't say anything. I was too upset. </div>

J&K10910 · May 2012

Petal, I'm biased, but I think all schools should have a people like me on a full time basis. It would be an easy way to give teachers a break from the kids they're burned out on, and free up counselors and social workers to not have to put out all the fires and focus on the other important aspects of their job.

pokepoke27 · May 2012

Kids are so cruel. I really don't miss high school.

specialk84 · May 2012

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[QUOTE]Petal, I'm biased, but I think all schools should have a people like me on a full time basis. It would be an easy way to give teachers a break from the kids they're burned out on, and free up counselors and social workers to not have to put out all the fires and focus on the other important aspects of their job.
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

<div>Thank you for saying "biased" instead of "bias." Pet peeve.</div>

angelstar975 · May 2012

Hey ladies! I'm at the mall shopping for a dress for either FI's graduation tomorrow or the shower I'm throwing on Saturday. I haven't decided. FI is taking forever in the br, haha so I'm sitting on a bench knotting. Petal, I hope you get the job.

PetalPockets2012 · May 2012

I like the idea J. I know we have full time Behavioral Specialists at certain schools. I am fortunate because our students are well behaved over all. I will admit that sometimes it would be nice to have someone around to work with our "frequent flyers".

Has anyone played the space version of Angry Birds? I'm not sure how I feel about it.

ETA: Oooh, I want to dress shop. Hi Angel and thanks!

sparent2010 · May 2012

Omg Special that is awful. I am so full of rage right now! *Hugs*

Here is a picture to cheer you up a little bit- My sister looks exactly like Russell.

specialk84 · May 2012

The space version is really easy.

barrelbabe004 · May 2012

We have a full-time IBI in our school. I can tell he's scared of the kids that he works with (we have some MAJOR behavior issues.) But every once in awhile he has a good breakthrough with a kid. It's nice to just have another adult to help out when I've got someone throwing chairs or desks.

pokepoke27 · May 2012

Hi Angel - the best time to knot is any time!

Petal - I haven't played that, but when I was helping my grandmother babysit I played the "real" version. It was frustrating lol.

PetalPockets2012 · May 2012

I was thinking it is easy, Special, but wondering if it would get more difficult. I was also pretending my angry birds skills had improved.

I would like to travel to other states and see how their schools run. It's so different even within the same county sometimes, I wonder what I could learn from other places.

teachermegs · May 2012

Can't stay long, but Petal- YGPM

HockeyFan4 · May 2012

That is insane!

I learned a hard lesson when I was in high school. We had a school lit magazine. It was mostly filled with bad woeful teenage poetry. We would read it when it came out every year in English class. In 10th grade, I had a sarcastic English teacher who commented "Aren't there any happy poems?" to which i yelled out "Yes...there is one by anonymous called 'Not Suicidal' on page x"

Well the girl in front of me got up and walked out of the room and the teacher snapped at me "What are you stupid?"

Apparently the girl wrote the poem and had just returned to school after attempting suicide. I had no idea.

ErinG93 · May 2012

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[QUOTE]Oh myg od Special. I would not have gone back to that school. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I want to junk punch those boys and hug you. Sorry you had a craptasticular day, Erin. <strong>Why was it so bad? Or do you not want to share? That's fine too :)</strong>
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>I'm hesitant to unload on this wonderful evening thread, but I think it might make me feel a little better. I am part of a facebook support group for my genetic disorder. We've been supporting/fundraising for a little girl named Molly Dunne since last year. She has HHT and pulmonary hypertension. She died today and I'm just devastated. Just beyond devastated. </div><div>
</div><div>I've been doing a lot of thinking about my own future children and if they have HHT (50% chance) what will happen to them. I just can't get over a 7 year old losing her life today. 'We' as a facebook group have been helping her complete her bucket list by taking her picture and doing bucket list things with it. One of Molly's wishes was to meet Miley Cyrus. Last night, Miley called her. I'm touched by the compassion, but heart broken too.</div><div>
</div><div>Sorry, that was a novel...

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specialk84 · May 2012

I am so sorry, Erin. So very sorry.

J&K10910 · May 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It's evening over here. : Thank you for saying "biased" instead of "bias." Pet peeve.
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]

People DO that? WTF?

Petal, I actually had this conversation with a teacher this week:
Teacher: She's not supposed to be in there, what are you going to do about it?
Me: (student's name), sounds like you're not supposed to be in there. Why don't you sit down, raise your hand, and ask for what you need instead?
Teacher: So what consequence are you going to give her?
Me: Nothing. But I'll support you in your use of classroom discipline.
Teacher: What? What do you mean nothing? Why are you here then?
Me: I'm here to teach skills. It's your classroom, so it's your place to discipline. If I did it, I'd be taking your power away from you. But I will absolutely support you and back you up.
Teacher: How do you teach skills if you don't consequence them?
Me: A lot of my clients act out to seek attention. Me consequencing them is reinforcing that behavior. When someone has an inappopriate behavior, I label it as such and suggest an alternative behavior. When they do the alternative behavior, I give positive reinforcement. If they refuse, then I wait. We don't move on until they can either demonstrate an alternative behavior or vocalize why they're unable to.
Teacher: Well that's stupid, I bet you don't get very far.

ArynBaker · May 2012

Oh my goodness Erin, I'm so sorry!

barrelbabe004 · May 2012

Ah Erin that's so sad. I'm sorry

ErinG93 · May 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It's evening over here. : People DO that? WTF? Petal, I actually had this conversation with a teacher this week: Teacher: She's not supposed to be in there, what are you going to do about it? Me: (student's name), sounds like you're not supposed to be in there. Why don't you sit down, raise your hand, and ask for what you need instead? Teacher: So what consequence are you going to give her? Me: Nothing. But I'll support you in your use of classroom discipline. Teacher: What? What do you mean nothing? Why are you here then? Me: I'm here to teach skills. It's your classroom, so it's your place to discipline. If I did it, I'd be taking your power away from you. But I will absolutely support you and back you up. Teacher: How do you teach skills if you don't consequence them? Me: A lot of my clients act out to seek attention. Me consequencing them is reinforcing that behavior. When someone has an inappopriate behavior, I label it as such and suggest an alternative behavior. When they do the alternative behavior, I give positive reinforcement. If they refuse, then I wait. We don't move on until they can either demonstrate an alternative behavior or vocalize why they're unable to. Teacher: Well that's stupid, I bet you don't get very far.
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>What a biiiitch. I don't even know what cuss words I can use, so I'm just throwing letters around.

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J&K10910 · May 2012

Oh, Erin, that's heartbreaking. I'm so sorry.

PetalPockets2012 · May 2012

Erin - I'm so sorry to hear about that. We are here for you. Hugs.

PetalPockets2012 · May 2012

J - I admire you for just stating your case to the teachers. Sometimes it is difficult when someone tells me they won't fill anything out or work with the student. I might have lost it just a tad on her.

Megs - YGPM back

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