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Size drama

  I know I am not the only one out there wth this problem. I'm not what is normally consdered "Plus Size" but neither am I "X-Large". And I also know that formal wear sizing is not the same as street wear, which I think is utterly stupid.
 
  When I'm looking online at size chats, some say I'd wear a size 18, some a 16,but there was one that said 28! Freaking 28? Now I by no means am trying to offend those of you who may be around that size, but a size gap that big is just rediculous.

  Also, I hate it when websites show "plus size" models that have an hour glass shape.NOT ALL OF US ARE LIKE THAT! I, for example, have 41-37-48 figure. My bust is about 2 sizes smaller than my waist and hips! Have any of you out there seen a wedding model like that? Becasue if you have, let me know.

  Really this rant is just to let people know how much I hate women's sizing, and that society these days just expects all of us to be a size 8 or smaller. Well guess what world, not all of us are able to be that small, or get that small without drastic surgery!
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Re: Size drama

  • I am a size 12 and had to buy a size 18. It makes mew feel like crap. If anything wedding dress sizes should be about the same if not larger than your own size so it makes us feel a little bit better!
    As far as models go, I am sorry I have no idea. I would just say to keep trying dresses on and not to look much at the wedding dress mags.
    And, if they tell you that you are a size 28, don't buy that dress. At least I wouldn't!That's just ridiculous.
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    [QUOTE]I am a size 12 and had to buy a size 18. It makes mew feel like crap. If anything wedding dress sizes should be about the same if not larger than your own size so it makes us feel a little bit better! As far as models go, I am sorry I have no idea. I would just say to keep trying dresses on and not to look much at the wedding dress mags. <strong>And, if they tell you that you are a size 28, don't buy that dress. At least I wouldn't!That's just ridiculous.</strong>
    Posted by deanozzi[/QUOTE]

    Size is<em> just a number</em>.  What number is inside of your dress is not what matters.  What matters is that you feel and look beautiful in that dress.  No one will know what number is inside your dress.  All they will know is that you look amazing. 

    And deanozzi, that's ridiculous.  You would walk away from a dress you  loved just because the number isn't what you'd like?
  • My dress was a size 24. I guess I should go cry or something now, huh?
  • I don't get it.. I mean... I understand that size isn't lovely to hear for anyone really... but It's not like people can read the label while you're walking down the aisle? It's about the fit, not the random arbitrary number some place decided to call it. 
  • I guess my problem is more about sizing for women being SO inconsistant. Really, the number isn't THAT big of a deal, just the principal around it. Wear a size 18 in normal clothes, 28 in a wedding dress? Geez. But yeah, cutting the tag usually helps me forget. And BTW, I haven't found a dress in said size 28 I love, just happened to be one I found and kinda liked
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  • "28" could be a European size.. often related to the in/cm around your waist or hips. American sizes are just as arbitrary.. I mean.. what does a size "18" mean anyway? Nothing.. that number is just made up to mean larger than a 16 and smaller than a 20? We have no consistant size measurements, and the fact that most of the clothing sold in the US are imported makes its even moreso. Wearing something taht is 10 "sizes" larger than what you normally wear doesn't indicate that you just GREW 10 sizes. 

    I get that it's stressful when looking online because you can't try it on... but ... Idk.. maybe I'm not being very sympathetic, I just don't get it.. Whether you're a size 6 or a size 16, you have to experience the wonky sizings.. Everyone is in the same boat as you. Float on. :P
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    [QUOTE]Bridal sizing can be odd.    It's not vanity sizing like a lot of street-clothes manufacturers use. I am a 4/6 and my wedding gown was a 10.  I don't know many girls who have ordered their street size in their wedding gown unless they went to a place like David's Bridal or a department store b/c those are closer to street size since they sell so much off the rack.
    Posted by ILoveMilkDuds[/QUOTE]

    <div>hah yeah my gown was my normal size 6, but I think the store I went to added tags to all their gowns with street sizes so it made things easier for them and for the brides. Smooth move bridal store... </div>
  • I was in a wedding once wear my BM dress was a size 14 and I was a street size 6/8.  I was upset for about a second but realized that designers tend to cut everything smaller...not sure why but they do...and not to take it as a personal insult or that I was "fat".

    Like a PP said, a size is just a number...as long as you love your dress and feel beautiful in it who cares if you have to get a size 100...you know what size you actually are so don't worry about it.

  • My friend who is a fashion designer told me that the sizing is what all clothes used to be sized at.  Typically you are 2 to 3 sizes bigger in wedding gowns because they go by what is actually "real measurements."

    I wouldn't worry about it.
  • My dress was a size 18.  I'm not that in real life.  It kind of gets you down, but remember, like you said, formal wear is a lot different than regular clothes.
  • I read an article once that said the same sized girl would wear a size triple zero at Chicos and a size 10 at Marc Jacobs (the higher end line, not the "Marc by Marc Jacobs"

    It's all arbitrary.

    I'd wear a dress that said 28 and not think twice about it.
  • Okay maybe I should rephrase myself. Yes, size is just a number, I do understand that. But any dress designer that tell's me that I need to buy a dress 10 sizes larger than I really am is ridiculous.

    To any of you who were upset about my comment, I am sorry. I in no way meant to attack anyone about their personal weight, I was more attacking the dress designer's sizing issues.

    I was a larger girl at one time (a size 18-20) and then and to this day size does not matter to me. I only buy clothes that fit me perfectlt even if that means buying a sze or two larger than normal. But 10 sizes? No!
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    [QUOTE]I guess my <strong>problem is more about sizing for women being SO inconsistant.</strong> Really, the <strong>number isn't THAT big of a deal, just the principal around it.</strong> Wear a size 18 in normal clothes, 28 in a wedding dress? Geez. But yeah, cutting the tag usually helps me forget. And BTW, I haven't found a dress in said size 28 I love, just happened to be one I found and kinda liked
    Posted by HoonahGrace[/QUOTE]

    You said it perfectly!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Size drama : hah yeah my gown was my normal size 6, but I think the store I went to added tags to all their gowns with<strong> street sizes</strong> so it made things easier for them and for the brides. Smooth move bridal store... 
    Posted by firsttimersluck[/QUOTE]

    LOL, all bridal stores should do this!
  • Bridal sizing can be VERY odd.  I'm a street size 4 petite.  The label on my wedding gown says it's a 12.  Go figure.  It's best to get a gown that you feel great in and remember that the size is just something arbitrary from that particular designer.
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  • I have to agree - if there's one time in my life I'd expect to get some 'vanity sizing' I'd think it's when I"m spending hundreds of dollars on a single item!  I know it's just a number but it is aggrivating - particularly because I used to be heavier and actually wear the size my dress label says.
  • I got a new pair of jeans this weekend......size 10,  I went and tried on dresses on Friday, the size 12's and 14's came a good 6 inches from zipping.  I don't care what "size" they say I am as long as my dress fits and I'm not uncomfortable in it.  Who knows how anybody "sizes" things anymore.
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  • I lost 50 lbs before going dress shopping.  The sales clerk told me that my measurements meant that I was a size 18 in bridal.   I was depressed and practically in tears.  I left the store and went shopping for a dress to wear to someone else's wedding.  That dress was a size 12.  The measurements did not change in the two minutes between stores.  Bridal sizing is ridiculous and don't trust those size numbers because they mean diddly.  After all, you will be spending money to alter your dress to customize it to your curves anyhow.  
  • I guess I got lucky with my dress I was told to order a size 16 or 18 based off of my largest measurements and instead I ordered off of my smallest measurement and my dress fits perfectly and is almost to big and I didn't lose weight I actually gained before it came in and I almost wish I had ordered the size 12 I originally tried on and looked to tight because I still plan on trying to lose weight. I think it depends on the designer. I got a Sophia Tolli dress but my second choice was a Maggie Sottero and I would have ordered the same size or a 12 as well because a size 14 in store was to big.
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  • I hate clothes shopping in general. All sizing is wonky. I bought a real (vintage I guess?) 1970's sun dress from a thrift store (in awesome condition) and it was labeled size 14. I'm maybe a 12, and that dress is NO WHERE near zipping. I used to be a size 5 my freshman year in high school and tried to borrow one of my mom's old (maybe from the 70s or 80s) skirt suits in a size 6 and that thing barely zipped. It hurt.

    What I'm saying is the sizes in stores right now are vanity sizes anyway. What used to be a 10 is now an 8 (or so) so we feel more compelled to buy it. As much as I hate the number on the tag, I would rather look awesome in a pair of size 14 pants (who the hell is gonna know anyway?) than look weird because I squeezed into a size 10 juse because the number is smaller, ya know?
  • My dress is a 14 and I wear an 8.  Don't worry about it.
     
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  • Over the years, clothing designers have been changing sizing incrementally as a marketing tool. Women will buy a particular brand if they wear a smaller size in that brand. So, the measurements are getting larger in a particular size and designers are being forced to add nonsense sizes like 0 and 00. Bridal sizing however, not having to rely on brand loyalty, has stayed more consistent in their measurement to size aspect. It's an unfortunate reality, but your post is evidence of why it works and why brands will continue to use this tactic to sell clothing.
  • Bridal lines run small. One clerk indicated to me it was to make more money as there is a sur-charge on plus sized gowns
  • On a slightly different note, try on the dress you want to the best of your ablilty. I know most bridal places have limited selection of larger sized dresses, but some of those sizing charts are ridiculous. My BMs are wearing Bill Levkoff dresses. One is a street size 4 and the chart said she needed a 14! She ordered a 6 and it's too big! Try and get an idea of how the designers dresses fit if you can't try on the exact dress you want. Also, corset dresses are a life saver and can save tons of money on alterations. Good luck!
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