FYI - be careful what you write (sensitive)

DramaGeek · December 2010

A long ago Knottie was sentenced to 9 years in prison on Dec 2 for stabbing her husband.

In reality, he attacked her, then gave himself superficial wounds to make it look like it was the other way around. The prosecution built a case against her while she was in a coma for 11 days. Part of their evidence was an email written to a friend years before saying her husband was making her "stabby." It's a word I've seen thrown around a lot on here lately, and with Mary Jane on my mind I wanted to put it out there. The things we write here are not confidential and could potentially come back to bite us. I know Mary never dreamed sending an email to another knottie that her husband was irritating her would ever do her harm, but now she's facing 9 years in prison and never seeing her children again.

aMrsin09 · December 2010

holy crap!

That was pretty far reaching on the prosecutors part.

DramaGeek · December 2010

Yeah. Obviously it wasn't the only thing they used against her, but it was part of their case. We were all shocked. Needless to say, our little board is much more careful about what we say and how we say it these days.

mica178 · December 2010

Wow. Just wow. What a crazy case.

Hm, I wonder if I've ever written down threats to hurt my H. Well, I guess I'm going to have to resist the impulse, should it ever arise.

akhensley81 · December 2010

Damn.

[Deleted User] · December 2010

I've always hated when people write that someone makes them 'stabby' or that they are going to 'cut' someone. It bothers me for some reason. But damn, that's crazy it was used against her like that.

SarahPLiz · December 2010

I'm sorry she didn't have a better defense team. It sucks that using a euphamism to vent can get you convicted of assault, especially if you are the victim. In fact, I've seen that as a defense before when someone utterred "I could kill her for that". They didn't actually mean they were contemplating taking her life, and it is a common phrase. The defense team sucessfully argued that one. I'm sorry this woman wasn't as fortunate.

mkrupar · December 2010

That's terrible. I agree with Sarah. She should have ahad a better defense team. They would have fought hard to prove that that's just a euphamism for being irritated. That sucks for this woman. I can't believe the prosectors were able to bring that to court from years ago.

redheadfsu · December 2010

I just goggled...

I agree you should be careful what you write, but sounds like prosecutors had a lot of other evidence.

Meg1979 · December 2010

Wow, I just googled the story. Amazing.

Rosie109 · December 2010

Why was she in a coma? I also googled it and the article was very very limited.

Rosie109 · December 2010

Oh shoot found a better article, nevermind!

lyndausvi · December 2010

why did she plea guilty?

kikibaby · December 2010

Rosie, linky? I haven't had my coffee, so my Google skils aren't working.

Rosie109 · December 2010

This is the most detailed one I could find

http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2010/02/06/news/doc4b6c4a95b88f4876265227.txt

kikibaby · December 2010

Thanks, rosie! This is why we keep you around

Rosie109 · December 2010

That article doesn't mention any emails though.

kikibaby · December 2010

Huh. Yeah, there's a lot more to that story than an email with the word 'stabby'.

lyndausvi · December 2010

http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2010/09/30/news/doc4ca41c7a68fe0616512422.txt

This is the one from Sept 30, 2010 where she plea guilty. They must of had a lot more evidence than just an email for her to pled guilty.

kikibaby · December 2010

Vautrin originally told police that she was the one who had been attacked, but admitted in court on Wednesday that she stabbed her husband with the intention of causing him serious harm or killing him.

I'm thinking that's why she went to jail, not so much the email...

squirrly · December 2010

Yeah, the fact that the knife only had her finger prints on it is kind of an important detail that was left out here.

Also - let's be sure that no personal information aside from what's in the news articles gets added to this post, please.

redheadfsu · December 2010

found a reference to an email:

"Another piece of evidence that would have been introduced at trial, Murphy said, is an e-mail Mary Jane Vautrin wrote to a friend stating she would soon be busy cleaning up blood from killing her husband. At the time the e-mail was written, a year or two before the stabbing, the friend dismissed it as venting, Murphy said."

Meg1979 · December 2010

I can't believe she stabbed herself 20 times. Craziness.

kikibaby · December 2010

The moral of the story is: Don't say you're stabby or that you'll be cleaning up your husband's blood if you ACTUALLY PLAN ON DOING IT.

squirrly · December 2010

Yeah. . . DramaGeek, I get it that it's hard to accept that your friend did something like this, but I'm thinking you might have a bit of denial going. Sure, people are wrongly accused, but they don't normally plead guilty. They generally mount a good defense.

tidetravel · December 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fyi-careful-write-sensitive-1?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c802965f-9528-42b9-9408-c7e12fc12dcbPost:63702b87-8b6f-4b9f-b391-5c0d0c23c73c">Re: FYI - be careful what you write (sensitive)</a>:
[QUOTE]The moral of the story is: Don't say you're stabby or that you'll be cleaning up your husband's blood if you ACTUALLY PLAN ON DOING IT.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]

Thank you, Kiki, for making me snort soda through my nose. That was a pleasant way to start off the morning.

waltzingmatilda13 · December 2010

Yeah, I have a hard time not believing when she admitted that she did it. And the email spoke of cleaning up blood, which is bit more grotesque than saying you are feeling "stabby".

kikibaby · December 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fyi-careful-write-sensitive-1?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:c802965f-9528-42b9-9408-c7e12fc12dcbPost:e1b176a2-69e3-4034-b534-87b702517360">Re: FYI - be careful what you write (sensitive)</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FYI - be careful what you write (sensitive) : Thank you, Kiki, for making me snort soda through my nose. That was a pleasant way to start off the morning.
Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE]

Ouch, sorry about that! ;)

salt78 · December 2010

My husband irritates me sometimes, but I would never dream of emailing a friend talking about how I'm going to be killing him and cleaning up his blood later. That's crazy talk.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · December 2010

Uhh... the article says she also set up her house to look like a burglary had taken place. That, the cash-out life insurance policy, and the email were used to show it was a pre-meditated crime.

I'm not saying her husband WASN'T a bad guy, but there's a huge difference between divorce and stabbing him and making it look like someone else did it. I mean, the second option wouldn't even cross my mind.

LDYGTR13 · December 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fyi-careful-write-sensitive-1?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:c802965f-9528-42b9-9408-c7e12fc12dcbPost:97ac84ad-ad6d-43de-bfd7-500c86b641e1">Re: FYI - be careful what you write (sensitive)</a>:
[QUOTE]Yeah. . . <strong>DramaGeek, I get it that it's hard to accept that your friend did something like this, but I'm thinking you might have a bit of denial going. </strong> Sure, people are wrongly accused, but they don't normally plead guilty. They generally mount a good defense.
Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]

Yup. I'm gonna have to agree with Squirrlz on this one.

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