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Groomzilla?!?! (long ranting vent)

My FI is a BM in an upcoming wedding (June). I seriously, want to call the Groom up and be like, "Y'all should read the wedding party section on TK...cause, you're a Groomzilla." Let me start off by saying the wedding is in Central PA and we live in Brooklyn, all other GM live in PA.

Last week, he called FI to complain that the other guys haven't gotten their tuxes fitted yet, and it was FI's responsibility to make sure they all did it. FI did email all of the guys telling them where the location of the rental place was and what the deadline was for getting measured. He even gave them explicit instructions for submitting their own measurements online if they wanted. The deadline? Is 3 weeks away, but clearly, it's time to call your BM and yell at him for the other groomsmens' behavior.

...fine...fine...he is questioning the reliability of his other GMs and doesn't trust them, let's give him that.

THIS WEEK, he called to ask the status of HIS BACHELOR PARTY! "Have you planned it? What are we doing? Where are we going? Do you have reservations yet? You need to make sure everyone can come! I'm going to be so pissed if it sucks. I want to go to this (five star) restaurant and I don't want to pay for it, it's my bachelor party. I want a hotel room in AC or I want to go to one of the nice Philly strip clubs. You should just tell B that you're coming down for a long weekend."  .... I could care less  if FI goes to PA for a long weekend and I could care less about what strip clubs he is going to. So, thanks for bringing me into that one, Groom. But...really? He stressed my FI soooo much. FI was trying to get opening game day tickets to the Philly's for him and all of his GMs and then go out to dinner and stay in Philadelphia and go to a strip club or whatever. A plan that, IMHO, is very thoughtful. FI was crushed because this d-bag basically destroyed all of his plans with 'that's not good enough, i want the world, and this is how it better be done'

....jerk. Fine, whatever. He's getting what he wants. FI just doesn't care anymore. but THEN! THIS MORNING!

FI forwards me this email (and please tell me if you ever heard of this "tradition")

Hey Sl*t (yes, that's how he addresses his BM, really flippin' mature right?)

I wanted to give you a heads up about the $200 you have to pay for the officiant. It's tradition that the best man pays. We need to pay it now, so I'll just spot you and you can pay me back.

I'm out.
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WHAT?! WHAT? WHAT!?!

Ok, I'm done. No...I'm not, this guy assumeshe is going to be FI's BM. Ugh. He has another thing coming.

OK. I'm done. Now, the question I pose to you Knotties is: is this a real "tradition" is my FI supposed to pay for the pastor?I googled it and I saw that the BM is traditionally supposed to go to the church after the ceremony and drop it off for the couple so that they can get to their guests, but...since they apparently have to pay 2 months in advance, I guess that tradition isn't applicable.

Re: Groomzilla?!?! (long ranting vent)

  • Are you sure that wasn't an April Fool's joke?

    No, it's not "traditional" for the Best Man to pay the officiant out of his own pocket. Some "traditions" state that the groom will give the Best Man the tip envelopes and be like, "Hey, I have to go greet Great Aunt Edna, could you do me a favor and give this to the officiant?"

    My advice:

    * since your FI already contacted the groomsmen about their tuxes, just let that one go and help the groom out

    * your FI should plan the kind of bachelor party he wants to plan and can afford. If he doesn't want to do AC or whatever, it's fine to say, "I'm already planning something really cool for you. Don't worry, you've love it." If the groom doesn't like it, then he can just turn it down and get nothing.

    * Call the groom and say, "It's not my wedding, so it's not my job to pay your vendors. If you want to put the payment money into envelopes and then have me hand it to your vendors, I'm happy to do that for you, but their payment is not coming from my own wallet."
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  • I have never heard of a "tradition" that states that the BM has to pay for the officiant...what do people do when they have no WP or are getting married at court? That's ridiculous...

    The only thing the BM needs to pay for is to buy/rent his tux...and pay for whatever plans they have made for the bachelor party...but that's their choice, collectively, as the groom's "guys".

    This guy not only sounds like a "groomzilla", he sounds like a total douchebag.  Is he like this normally? If so, I'd question the friendship...
  • Exactly what mcdefg said.

    But might I add:

    Point #1: His groomsmen are adult (I assume) and they are completely capable of attending a tux fitting without being reminded of it 20 times a week. Your FI should point this out to him if he calls again. He's BM, not a babysitter.

    Point #2: Seriously? If he's going to be such a jerk about things, I wouldn't even plan anything for him. It sounds like that's what he deserves.

    Point #3: WHAT?! No no no no no, the BM does not PAY the officiant. He can take the grooms money and give that to the officiant so groom doesn't have to worry about it, but it does not come out of his own pocket.

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  • xoxobxoxob member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_groomzilla-long-ranting-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:37Discussion:9dfb9a3d-011e-46ef-a74f-61038e59683dPost:b8d3ae12-e764-4155-bd1f-b122ec5fc745">Re: Groomzilla?!?! (long ranting vent)</a>:
    [QUOTE]This guy not only sounds like a "groomzilla", he sounds like a total douchebag.  Is he like this normally? If so, I'd question the friendship...
    Posted by jaimed99[/QUOTE]

    Oh, believe me, I have. None of FI's other friends from home like him (nor do the friends up here whom have met him). I don't like him. His future wife called me fat. He called me a "privileged new englander" because I told him to stop making racist jokes in my presence. Can you tell I'm really looking forward to this unholy union?

    I tried to tell my FI that all he has to do is show up and be there the day of. He doesn't even have to throw him a party or get the other guys to their fittings or ANY of this. This guy...just...he's so bossy.

    I'm telling FI there is no way we are paying for his officiant. We have our OWN officiant to pay for.

    We've been to so many weddings and Steve has been a BM and a GM and this has never happened. I'm just...I'm so angry right now. Mostly because all of this his hurting Steve's feelings. I want to call him and choke him through the phone.
  • I'm sorry that your FI is getting stressed out by a wedding that isn't even his...from the pic in your sig, he looks like a really nice guy...and I assume he is, otherwise you wouldn't be marrying him, right? :)

    Maybe have your FI talk to his friend and ask him where he heard about this "tradition"? It's possible he could just be making it up to get out of paying for the officiant...hell, have FI google wedding traditions and have him show it to the groom! LOL

    As for you saying he thinks he'll be a GM in your wedding, right on! I wouldn't want a person like that in my WP either...
  • Ok...I'm mad with yah. This guy sounds like a jerk... and a moucher.

    1) I would just suck it up and stay on the other GM until it gets done.

    2) I would continue with my orginal plans but incorporate some of the Groomszilla plans to calm him.

    3) In no way would I ever consider paying for the minister. Your FI needs to tell him that it is tradition for the GM to deliver the couple's final payments to vendor on the night of the wedding but that it is not tradition for him to pay. Stay firm on not paying. This is not tradition.
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  • ps...as far as him thinking he is the BM. You and your FI should not share tid bits of info with him on the wedding. Only what he needs to know in the case that he is a GM.
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  • mixtapeheartsmixtapehearts member
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    edited April 2010
    I am so outraged for you that his cow of a future wife called you fat!!!! That's awful!! You're super gorgeous in your picture! Clearly that b!tch has some self-esteem issues.

    This guy sounds like a huge d-bag. It is absolutely NOT a tradition for the BM to pay the officiant's fee. I agree with skippylouwho, pass his e-mail off as a bad April Fools joke. That should be nice and embarassing for him :)

    Good luck with all this! That jerk doesn't deserve a nice guy like your FI as his BM :)
  • GL with that crazytrain.  I feel bad for your FI.

    Is this guy going to be one of his GM?
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  • xoxobxoxob member
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    Thanks everyone!

    ...ugh. I have no idea. He has proved to be the type of guy that doesn't care if he's a GM or he isn't. He'll just crash the wedding party!

  • WHAAAAA?  No, the GM don't pay the pastor.  WTF is that about???

    Your FI's buddy sounds like a real gem of a friend.  So does his wife.  Your FI must be a saint to put up with that crap.
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  • What a nightmare. I'm interested to hear what your FI thinks of the friendship overall now - is he going to phase this guy out after the wedding, or will he end up forgiving him because they've been friends for so long?

    Oh, and I too think the failed April Fool's approach sounds like a good one!
  • xoxobxoxob member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_groomzilla-long-ranting-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:37Discussion:9dfb9a3d-011e-46ef-a74f-61038e59683dPost:ea2bd17f-2647-4c13-ba9f-8df09962b9c1">Re: Groomzilla?!?! (long ranting vent)</a>:
    [QUOTE]What a nightmare.<strong> I'm interested to hear what your FI thinks of the friendship overall now</strong> - is he going to phase this guy out after the wedding, or will he end up forgiving him because they've been friends for so long? Oh, and I too think the failed April Fool's approach sounds like a good one!
    Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

    He really doesn't know what he is going to do. This guy isn't going to be his BM. FI isn't sure if he should even have him be a GM. He says at this point, maybe it's some outside stress combined with the wedding and if the guy calms down and gives an earnest thanks, then maybe they can just go back to normal (guys are so much different than ladies he was like "I am not going to 'discuss where this friendship is going'" hehehe).

    He pulled the failed April Fool's joke and hasn't gotten a response. He says that if this guy really fights him hard on this paying for the officiant he is going to drop the wedding altogether and forsake the friendship, because he's just not willing to be taken advantage of. I fully support him no matter what he decides.
  • It sounds like your FI is a pretty solid guy.  I like his approach to the situation.  Hope it works out!
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  • Seriously. What an ungrateful (and INSANE dude).

    Keep us posted, though - I'm curious to hear what happens!

    Good luck!
  • Good for your FI to stand up!

    I think people get confused with that tradition.  The BM doesn't traditionally pay for the officiant out of HIS pocket but he might take care of it with an envelope the groom gives him so the groom can do things like focus on his bride.

    Keep us posted!
  • xoxobxoxob member
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    I have an update!

    FI emailed with: "Hahaha. Nice try, April Fool's day was yesterday, fool! Of course, if you give me the money on the day of your wedding, I will be happy to hand it over for you. Since we set the date B has schooled me on the rules of engagement and you're not getting that one over on me, buddy. lol. Have fun in NC this weekend with the fam."

    I think it was totally jocular and appropriate, right?!

    Today he got a phone call from this d-bag. Who goes on and on about how FI is trying "take advantage of their friendship" and "short-change him" and how, FI has been a horrible BM because he hasn't heard anything from the other GM about his bachelor party!! FI was totally calm, I was super proud, and said something along the lines of, it's great if you want to ruin your surprises, I'm really sorry that you feel short changed but you have unreasonable expectations and I think that you should just have Frank be your BM. I'm really sorry, this is just too much. Obviously, if you still want me to stand next to you, I will, and B and I will be happy to attend your wedding. etc. etc. etc.

    ...after a bunch more whining, we now don't have to go to the wedding! This makes me happy, but FI is really bummed. So, I'm going to take him out to dinner and a movie.

    Hopefully they will be able to reclaim some semblance of friendship.  This guy is just bananas.
  • So the dude called your FI basically telling him what he HAD to do?

    With friends like that...


  • Wow, yuck.  I think your FI handled that really well--hopefully a night out will cheer him up a bit, at least take his mind off of his crappy "friend" for the time being.
  • Aw, your FI sounds like an amazing sweetheart!  Glad you don't have to deal with that crazy "friend" anymore.  Dinner and a movie sounds like a great plan! :))))
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  • That's so ridiculous!  infuriating really, I mean, how dare he demand that your FI pay for his vendor?  I've never heard of such a thing and I wouldn't think of asking my bridesmaids or my FI's groomsmen to pay for anything other than what they're wearing!  (In fact, we're actually paying for suit rental).   I think your FI did the right thing.  Stepping down and losing that friendship is definitely in his best interests.  What a jerk!!   I wonder how the new best man will deal with this guy...
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_groomzilla-long-ranting-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:37Discussion:9dfb9a3d-011e-46ef-a74f-61038e59683dPost:de3e39ef-694d-465d-9ddd-c6d3865ff053">Re: Groomzilla?!?! (long ranting vent)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I have an update! FI emailed with: "Hahaha. Nice try, April Fool's day was yesterday, fool! Of course, if you give me the money on the day of your wedding, I will be happy to hand it over for you. Since we set the date B has schooled me on the rules of engagement and you're not getting that one over on me, buddy. lol. Have fun in NC this weekend with the fam." I think it was totally jocular and appropriate, right?! Today he got a phone call from this d-bag. Who goes on and on about how FI is trying "take advantage of their friendship" and "short-change him" and how, FI has been a horrible BM because he hasn't heard anything from the other GM about his bachelor party!! FI was totally calm, I was super proud, and said something along the lines of, it's great if you want to ruin your surprises, I'm really sorry that you feel short changed but you have unreasonable expectations and I think that you should just have Frank be your BM. I'm really sorry, this is just too much. Obviously, if you still want me to stand next to you, I will, and B and I will be happy to attend your wedding. etc. etc. etc. ...after a bunch more whining, we now don't have to go to the wedding! This makes me happy, but FI is really bummed. So, I'm going to take him out to dinner and a movie. Hopefully they will be able to reclaim some semblance of friendship.  This guy is just bananas.
    Posted by xoxob[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm sorry your FI had to resort to stepping down, but he'll probably feel better now that he's not dealing with "groomzilla"...just be the supportive and awesome woman you are and he'll realize he doesn't need to be unnecessarily stressed over his friend's wedding when you guys have one of your own to plan! :) And high-fives to him for standing up for himself!</div>
  • xoxobxoxob member
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    :) Thanks everyone! He's fine. They just had known eachother since grade school. Last night he was like "Why do weddings bring out the worst in people when they are supposed to be the best?" IMHO, he is the cutest.
  • Your Steve handled it with a classiness that this jerk did not deserve.  Kudos!
  • Aww, poor FI! That really sucks, and I'm sure that he must be upset about the way his friend (ex-friend?) is acting lately. But it sounds like he handled it amazingly well, and if this is an example of the person this guy has become, your FI's not really missing much by losing him as a friend.
  • Your FI sounds like a real sweetheart.  I'm sorry his (ex)friend was an ass, but it sounds like it's really for the best.  Hope you managed to cheer him up!!
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