Let's Talk About Something Real

emarston1 · May 2011

So what are your thoughts on bin Laden's death? Do you feel more safe? Less safe? Not any different?

rcj2rcd · May 2011

I used to think about how I would feel on this day, sometimes thinking it would never happen. I'm in shock. The fight against terrorism isn't over, but I will sleep better tonight. God bless our troops!!!!

missmelanie81 · May 2011

Im sceptic. They have already "buried" him at sea..which I find odd. If he really is dead..awsome! But he has millions of followers and Im sure someone else will take his place. I dont feel any safer then I did yesturday.

lovetruly06 · May 2011

I don't really feel know how I feel. To many mixed emotions.

lovetruly06 · May 2011

ditto missmelaine. when one falls another rises to take his place. Im waiting for the other shoe to drop yet hoping it doesn't.

But I am so glad all our Navvy SEAL team came out of the mission alive and unharmed. God bless all of our troops and may they al come home soon.

lisa89760 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]Im sceptic. They have already "buried" him at sea..which I find odd. If he really is dead..awsome! But he has millions of followers and Im sure someone else will take his place. I dont feel any safer then I did yesturday.
Posted by missmelanie81[/QUOTE]

According to Islamic law, the body must be buried within 24 hours. Apparently they are deciding on how they are going to release pictures/videos for proof.

In the short term, I'm actually a little nervous about retaliation but this is an important first step in the fight on terrorism. Even if he wasn't actually in charge anymore, this shoes terrorists that we will not give up in the fight against terrorism.

missmelanie81 · May 2011

I also think its odd that we cared about his "religiouse beliefs" Did he care about any of our people on 9-11? I have no respect for the man. I lost a good friend in Iraq.

BnGCookies820 · May 2011

I'm with most of the PPs. I think it's great that he's gone. But we all know that he had a growing number of followers.

It would probably br good for the US to stay on guard. There's already someone ready to take his place as leader.

matuofm · May 2011

I don't think that I really feel any safer - just as lovetruly and missmelanie pointed out, I'm sure that someone else will rise and take his place, and use his death to inspire further atrocities. But I DO think that this is a momentous occasion anyway, because it will hopefully allow for a greater sense of closure for those who lost loved ones.

But truthfully? My main feeling is one of apprehension. Like Lisa said, there's always the possibility of reprisals. But more than that, I'm worried about us as a people. I remember being truly uneasy for a year or so after 9-11, not because of the threat of terrorism, but because the people of this country became (to my mind) alarmingly nationalistic. We pulled together as a nation in the wake of a tragedy, and that was beautiful to see. But for a long time afterwards, I felt like we had developed an "us vs. everyone else" mentality that fostered a lot of frighteningly racist talk and behaviors.

This morning, I woke up, opened my FB account, and the first thing I saw was a comment about "thank God that Osama's dead - he should have hung himself by his towel a long time ago." While I can't disagree with the sentiment, I feel like there's an underlying strand of racism there that makes me uncomfortable. My wish here is that we rejoice in our opportunity to find closure, but make sure that we don't use this sudden media storm or our own jubiliation as an excuse to renew antagonisms against broad and innocent groups of people - whether within our borders or without.

emarston1 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]I also think its odd that we cared about his "religiouse beliefs" Did he care about any of our people on 9-11? I have no respect for the man. I lost a good friend in Iraq.
Posted by missmelanie81[/QUOTE]
I don't think they gave a rat's ass about <em>his</em> religious beliefs but in order not to look insensitive to the religion as a whole, they respected the custom to be buried within 24 hours. I think it was a very smart move on their behalf actually. No need to give the opposition more reasons to hate us.

As for burying him at sea, it was so that people didn't make a shrine out of his grave. Another smart move because you know that would have happened.

I agree with PPs that I don't feel any safer than I did yesterday but I do see it as a small victory. Although I am worried about retaliation especially with all the "USA USA USA" stuff going on. You know how we get pissed off when we see other countries burning our flag? Just like that.

Allycat11 · May 2011

I am skeptical, as I am for other information released by the government, because how do we really know what is going on? I've heard people mention he may have been dead for years, others saying he may still be out there...and honestly I have no idea what to believe. Even if proof surfaces, I don't know what to think...especially if it takes awhile for proof to arise.

I will be honest, I did not regularly think of Osama personally until last night (At least not for the last 10 years). That does not mean I do not think of the people fighting for our country...just not neccessarily thinking of Osama personally. Now that I think about it, I feel less safe for our country....not neccessarily for myself. If everything on the news is true, and he has been in hiding for all of these years, he probably had some assistance. And if he really is that much of a mastermind that he did not have anyone directly helping him, there are still loyal followers out there. I am worried for the retaliation we will see.

sammichele · May 2011

I don't really know what to think. Although I'm glad that we finally have reached this point and that he is now gone, I'm curious to what is going to happen next. It makes me pretty uncomfortable. Like PP said, someone will be ready to take his place now - and then what will happen? I just don't really forsee peace anytime in the near future and it takes away from the happiness I should be feeling about this victory.

MrsBarstool2011 · May 2011

I think it is awesome but do I think that al-queda has been taken down? No, this is a huge organization that I'm sure has systems in place for when this happens. Taking out Osama does send the message that we can and will track anyone down though.

Meg1036 · May 2011

The current, 26-year-old me is skeptical of the impact of this.

Somewhere inside me though is a scared 17-year-old high school student who just watched a plane hit a tower. And that person feels really relieved and proud.

bltata · May 2011

I also feel like it was a smart move to bury Bin Laden according to his religious beliefs. The military already took his life, and while he may not deserve dignity in our eyes, we should definitely respect the members of his religion.

I feel this will bring a lot of turmoil, and possibly divide our country between skeptics and believers in a dangerous way. The truth is that some people will never believe, even if "evidence" is released. That beauty and tragedy of technology is that conspiracy theorists, whether they be right or wrong, have that much more reason to believe that information is fraudulent since it is possible to recreate such images with a computer.

This may also increase our susceptibility to more terrorist attacks as a backlack from his organization.

Sue-n-Kevin · May 2011

The first text I got from my son was "I won't believe it until I see the long form, detailed death certificate" (a comment related to the Obama birth certificate). But then he is graduating from GWU with a masters in Public Policy and very political, LOL.

I did not rejoice. I guess I felt rather ambivalent, as an older person. I've seen so many things that on the scale of 1-10, this is about a 4. There are already stories saying he did not have that much control over al Quaeda, he was more a figurehead. According to the reports, there was no tv or internet at the compound where he was living, so he was not in touch with anyone other than his couriers.

But, I do understand why some people rejoice in this news. This is not a war that will be "won", like WWI or WWII, where someone signed papers and surrendered. As a figurehead many people hated him, but not because of his direct involvement in any activities: he does have a lot of followers, and for that I am very apprehensive. This is exactly why we did not plan to have a honeymoon in Europe, as our wedding is only a couple of weeks before the 10th anniversary of 9/11. There are nutjobs everywhere, and not all are foreign (ie Timothy McVeigh).

I think our world changed more than 10 years ago, many around the world hate us, and I suspect our national security and armed services will be especially vigilant in the months and years to come. I do applaud the decisive action with which this was undertaken, as we had Bin Laden's whereabouts years before 9/11, and did nothing in spite of the fact we knew he was dangerous and plotting demise of Americans.

The "good news" I take from this is that I believe it will shorten any military activity we have in Afghanistan and Pakistan, as their initial targeted departure date was somewhere in 2013. I think they will try to mop that up quicker and get our brave service people home. My future son-in-law is in the Marines, he's had one tour in Iraq already, and while he hasn't gone back, I think his chances of returning are even less now.

pbinghamsgirl · May 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's Talk About Something Real : I don't think they gave a rat's ass about his religious beliefs but in order not to look insensitive to the religion as a whole, they respected the custom to be buried within 24 hours. I think it was a very smart move on their behalf actually. No need to give the opposition more reasons to hate us. As for burying him at sea, it was so that people didn't make a shrine out of his grave. Another smart move because you know that would have happened. I agree with PPs that I don't feel any safer than I did yesterday but I do see it as a small victory. Although I am worried about retaliation especially with all the "USA USA USA" stuff going on. You know how we get pissed off when we see other countries burning our flag? Just like that.
Posted by emarston1[/QUOTE]

This whole message is how I feel! LOL
They stated that they didn't do EVERYTHING that they normally do for a person buried at sea. But they did do everything that they were supposed to do according to his religion.

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