Secret marriage, planning wedding... complicated

FiancLaCrosse · July 2011

I think some of you misread or didn't understand what I was saying. We are in no way trying to pull one over on anyone. We are just doing what is best for everyone to make everyone happy, including ourselves. No more ignorant "opinions" needed. I didn't read any further responses, and I won't....

KendallR10 · July 2011

Yeah. No. Hiding it= bad idea. You already had a wedding this is a vow renewal. The military did not force you to do anything. You chose to.

Take the money you would have spent on this and take a nice vaca less stress

lyonstm · July 2011

LaCrosse--

I totally understnad where youre coming from but you're about to read a few things that is going to disappoint you:

1) Having a "wedding" is a no-no. You absolutely cannot go through all the bells and whistles, have people take time to come out and even possibly spending money on you and your husband without them at LEAST knowing that you and your husband are already married. Put yourself in their shoes if you went to a wedding, bought a bridal gift, made a donation etc only to find out they had been married for quite a while and decieved everyone that participated. YOU WOULD BE PISSED. I know I would.

2) You've already had your wedding boo.. You had your wedding with the JOP. If you were to have a ceremony at this point it would be called a "vow renewal". Disappointing, right? I was thinking through something similar when the knottie ladies set me right and I am so thankful for them. But because of what you and your husband chose to do, you can have your ceremony, but bachelorette parties, bridal showers, etc is out the window.

I really wish the best of luck to you. If you are okay with still having your ceremony it would need to be a vow renewal. Decieving everyone that went would be absolutely wrong. Good Luck Hun!

kyrgyzstan · July 2011

Um, we're not going to help you figure out how to lie even more. We're not going to help you figure out how to fake a wedding license or find an officiant who will help you lie.

I'm offended that you think military brides are somehow more likely to understand lying to the people who love you. I take honor and honesty very seriously BECAUSE I'm associated with the military.

Try WeddingBee boards, or Brides boards, or CinChouse. They tend to be more down for that sort of thing.

ETA: And don't you blame the Marine Corps. YOU TWO made this decision, you CHOSE to get married. The Marine Corps didn't force you to do anything.

kyrgyzstan · July 2011

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[QUOTE]Ok so hopefully you other military brides will somewhat understand where I'm coming from. Scott and I got engaged back in March. At the time he was only 3 months home from a deployment and they were already talking about sending him out again cause of the stuff that was going on in Egypt and some other things. So April 1st we ran to the courthouse and got married, in secret. Not just because of that, but also because when we started telling our families we got engaged, well let's just say we didn't get the reactions we expected. My mom, dad, and step-mom were all happy. His mom was happy... pretty much everyone else, my sister, his dad, grandparents, etc were less than enthused and just kinda crappy about it. (My own sister still has not asked to see my ring or anything, and in the last week or so we finally got a letter from his grandparents saying "we didn't know what to say, so I guess congratulations", just CRAPPY!) So we went out and got married quick, it made us happy, it's what we wanted, and we just kinda said screw the world and their reactions. Well we didn't tell anyone. His family is in WI (we are in VA, my family is in VA) and they would have been mad they weren't there (even though nobody was) and my family would look down on us for not doing things "the right way". Well, with the military sometimes you also just have to do things when the big USMC gives you time to do it. So now we're planning our wedding for May 2012, where everyone just thinks that is it for us and when we get married. Not that I want to live out a lie but we are just happy with what we did and basically don't want to hear anybody's opinions so we just want to go along with it. And we aren't having the wedding for the family by the way, we're doing it for us, for the memory, and to have something for us to always remember and cherish. How do we go about keeping people out of asking questions about things like a marriage license we don't need, or finding someone to marry us who will do it like a regular ceremony? Basically, any suggestions on how to keep people in the dark that we are already married on paper and just go about having a regular wedding???
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]

<div>JIC</div>

KendallR10 · July 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_military-brides_secret-marriage-planning-wedding-complicated?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:13Discussion:31ba0683-2bd9-4473-b286-d5238aefe426Post:f91757c5-dd53-4f80-b126-034556375dfb">Re: Secret marriage, planning wedding... complicated</a>:
[QUOTE]No, the military didn't force us to, we did choose, but the family, and other circumstances certainly didn't make us feel warm and fuzzy about waiting or anything else. And I understand what y'all are saying about a "vow renewal" ok fine. But why not have all the bells and whistles? Majority of the military couples I know did exactly that, got married at the JOP and then had the full blown ceremony and reception and the whole 9 later. We are not asking for gifts, donations, etc. We don't need anything, we don't expect anything. We just want the day and plan on making that clear. Dont' want a bachelorette party, my MOH wants to throw me a bridal shower which would end up being nothing but my military girl friends anyway who all already know the real deal. And ok then next question, so if we tell everyone how do we politely tell them to keep their mouths shut and opinions to themselves because my husband have no desire or patience to hear it from anyone?
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>You just flat out tell them we're married this is a vow renewal. You put it on the invites. If people say something ignore them

</div>

kyrgyzstan · July 2011

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[QUOTE] And ok then next question, so if we tell everyone how do we politely tell them to keep their mouths shut and opinions to themselves because my husband have no desire or patience to hear it from anyone?
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]

<div>"Scott and I got married last year, just the two of us. We were very excited to do it, and we hope you'll celebrate with us next year at our vow renewal!"</div><div>
</div><div>And ignore the rest. We all choose what we do, and people are entitled to their opinions, especially the people you love. You can ignore them or listen to them, but you can't make people not have opinions.</div>

SamiJoeB · July 2011

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[QUOTE]Ok so hopefully you other military brides will somewhat understand where I'm coming from. Scott and I got engaged back in March. At the time he was only 3 months home from a deployment and they were already talking about sending him out again cause of the stuff that was going on in Egypt and some other things. So April 1st we ran to the courthouse and got married, in secret. Not just because of that, but also because when we started telling our families we got engaged, well let's just say we didn't get the reactions we expected. My mom, dad, and step-mom were all happy. His mom was happy... pretty much everyone else, my sister, his dad, grandparents, etc were less than enthused and just kinda crappy about it. (My own sister still has not asked to see my ring or anything, and in the last week or so we finally got a letter from his grandparents saying "we didn't know what to say, so I guess congratulations", just CRAPPY!) So we went out and got married quick, it made us happy, it's what we wanted, and we just kinda said screw the world and their reactions. Well we didn't tell anyone. His family is in WI (we are in VA, my family is in VA) and they would have been mad they weren't there (even though nobody was) and my family would look down on us for not doing things "the right way". Well, with the military sometimes you also just have to do things when the big USMC gives you time to do it. So now we're planning our wedding for May 2012, where everyone just thinks that is it for us and when we get married. Not that I want to live out a lie but we are just happy with what we did and basically don't want to hear anybody's opinions so we just want to go along with it. And we aren't having the wedding for the family by the way, we're doing it for us, for the memory, and to have something for us to always remember and cherish. How do we go about keeping people out of asking questions about things like a marriage license we don't need, or finding someone to marry us who will do it like a regular ceremony? Basically, any suggestions on how to keep people in the dark that we are already married on paper and just go about having a regular wedding???
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]

I'm fairly certain that no one will have any suggestions on how to keep your secret marriage a secret. No one on here condones lying to loved ones, or lying about your marriage. I personally think that's a really shiitty thing to do. The Marine Corps didn't force you to get married, you and your H rather selfishly decided to go and get married in a haste, and now you regret it and you feel cheated because you didn't get to wear the big white poufy dress. I don't think anyone in your family reacted badly. Did you want them to throw you a party or sing from the rooftops? You got engaged. Congrats. Now you're married. Congrats again. No one is ever as excited about your engagement, and your wedding as you and your SO are, thats just a fact. If you're so happy with what you did, why don't you just live with it, instead of lying to your family for over a year to spend a disgusting amount of money on a party that's completely unnecessary. There is no good reason, or excuse for lying like that. I would never, nor could I ever, deny that my Husband is my Husband. Get a grip. You thought just because we're all military wives, FI, GF, and SO that we would applaud your secret marriage and your lies? No. We all planned our weddings out, we didn't cry if people didn't jump up and down for us, didn't whine when someone didn't ask to see our rings. The girls that come to this board asking for advice on the exact same thing that you're asking, don't stick around very long, because we call them on their crap and they go cry to someone else (try weddingbee.com if you want validation for your terrible, stupid, and juvenile ideas.. they would love to blow rainbows and sunshine up your ass) Will lying for a year, and planning a "wedding" (technically it should be called a VR) make you any more married? are you any less married than say, I am? I who got engaged, planned and had a wedding with my family and friends present? Clearly someone's moral compass is a little off.. and it's not mine. Good Luck with your Lies. Clearly you started your marriage out on the right foot.

ETA: I quoted just in case too.. Great minds Stan..

calindi · July 2011

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[QUOTE]No, the military didn't force us to, we did choose, but the family, and other circumstances certainly didn't make us feel warm and fuzzy about waiting or anything else. And I understand what y'all are saying about a "vow renewal" ok fine. But why not have all the bells and whistles? Majority of the military couples I know did exactly that, got married at the JOP and then had the full blown ceremony and reception and the whole 9 later. We are not asking for gifts, donations, etc. We don't need anything, we don't expect anything. We just want the day and plan on making that clear. Dont' want a bachelorette party, my MOH wants to throw me a bridal shower which would end up being nothing but my military girl friends anyway who all already know the real deal. And ok then next question, so if we tell everyone how do we politely tell them to keep their mouths shut and opinions to themselves because my husband have no desire or patience to hear it from anyone?
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]

I think with all the drama and everything, I can understand why you eloped. But why would you then want to have the big "wedding"? It's going to cause even more drama than it would have before you deceived everyone! These secrets come out eventually - like you said, no marriage license, the officiant has to know, etc.

There's no way to tell everyone to keep their opinions to themselves. I think they have a right to be pissed that you didn't tell them you got married. But now's the time to say to all of them, "Hey, guess what? We eloped!" If there's interest from your families to have a religious ceremony or a vow renewal for everyone to participate in, then great - do it. A vow renewal can be just about anything you want, including looking like a traditional white wedding. There's a few things you should consider, though - it's often considered not in good taste to register for gifts, have bridesmaids, have pre-wedding parties (bachelorette & showers), first dance, etc. Some people won't care, some will judge you. That's all up to you.

Do know that by deceiving your families while you collect military benefits is fraud, and he can be prosecuted under military justice, demoted and even kicked out. If you're collecting real financial benefits from the government for being married, then you should act like you're married. If you want to keep it a secret, keep it a secret from the Marines, too, and don't collect a penny of dependent support, Tricare, etc.

lyonstm · July 2011

Crosse-- ditto to what all the ladies said minus the little bit of kittiness involved.

I understand where you're coming from and I was thinking through a complicated situation like yours and they set me straight.

Bottom Line Up Front: Everyone talks sh!t about everyone's wedding. "Mine was bettter" "This was tacky" "I hate her hair" "Her dress doesn't complement her body" "I heard shes pregnant... Its the nature of the beast boo.. But its your day so FCUK them! And just like someone mentioned with all that garbage going on, perhaps you did make a right decision in the JOP.

Have your vow renewal. And hey, if they're talking smack and it bothers you that much... simply don't invite them. Let no person rain on your parage. Besides, you and he are paying for that sh!t.

heather0711 · July 2011

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[QUOTE] ok then next question, so if we tell everyone how do we politely tell them to keep their mouths shut and opinions to themselves because my husband have no desire or patience to hear it from anyone?
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]

If you weren't prepared for the comments, then it probably wasn't a good idea to do. Keeping it a secret wasn't a good idea either. If people have something to say, ignore them.
And there's nothing wrong with the bells and whistles, go for it - just make sure it's referred to as a vow renewal so that people don't think otherwise. Just because it's a vow renewal doesn't mean you can't have everything that comes along with a traditional wedding....just can't be called one.

calindi · July 2011

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[QUOTE]Wow... guess I should just go to the people I trust for advice. The ones who got married at the JOP and had the whole big wedding later. I NEVER thought that I'd get such shitty reactions! I don't expect anyone to condone lying, and while at the end of the day yes it is lying, we had many reasons for doing what we did. As I said, we want to have the "wedding" later, for us, for us to have the memories and what not. WE would be paying for it, not expecting anyone else to. And it wouldn't be some big to-do. No more than our closest family and friends at our expense. I don't regret my decision at all to marry my husband, to not have the wedding right away. I don't regret that for a second to whoever said that. And you all can think I'm getting "upset" because I'm not hearing what I want to, not the case, I just never thought people would be so bitchy about it. I never once blamed the MC for our reason for getting married. Was it a slight factor, yes. Only because we could have not gotten engaged, plan this thing for over a year and they yank him away after everything is paid for and before the day can even come... because they were about to yank him away again and we knew what we wanted for our lives. I never blamed the MC, maybe some of you live in some glamorous military world where you don't have to worry about if your man is going to get taken on a moment's notice... sorry, I'm not familiar with that world. And as far as "fraud" goes, um no... it's not a contract marriage, it's a real true marriage, where we love each other, we're crazy about each other, and we're in it for the long haul, certainly not for the money, especially considering I make more than twice what he does and have my own benefits, thanks. Forget I asked, like I said, I'll just wait and stick with the people I know and trust who have done what I've known MANY military couples to do, JOP quick, wedding later. I WON'T be back on here to hear a bunch of bitching and rude comments, this was more drama than our family was. Thanks.
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]

Yep, that's about what I expected.

1. It is fraud if you are not presenting yourself as a married couple. My FI is a Marine JAG Officer and has been working on a case this summer regarding a couple who got married but told no one and collected benefits. They were using the money to pay for their "wedding" a year later. He's not going to jail, but he's probably going to get demoted. It's fraud, yes. If you aren't presenting yourself as a married couple, you shouldn't be accepting real tangible benefits that are meant for married couples. If it's not a big deal, then just don't tell the Marines you're married either.

2. Did the girls who JOP'd and then had a wedding lie about it? Keep the fact that they were married a secret? That's the big difference. If someone wants to get married by JOP but then have a big party that looks and feels a lot like a wedding but the invitations say, "Jane Doe and Jack Smith together with their families invite you to celebrate with them as they <strong>renew their vows</strong>..." then whatever, cool, good luck. But if your families will be pissed you got married in secret, I don't see them being super happy to attend what is essentially a theatrical production since you will already be married. All that is taken from what you have said - we don't have any more information to go on.

3. Your man will still be deployed if you're married. You won't miss him less, he won't come home sooner, and he won't be any safer. That's not a good reason to get married in a hurry, because he *might* be deploying soon. It's certainly not a good reason to lie to your families. It's nothing special, sweetheart - it's what we all deal with every day. And it doesn't give you a free ticket to be a self-involved selfish brat and lie to your families and yet still expect them to be super excited for your pretty princess day.

heather0711 · July 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Secret marriage, planning wedding... complicated : <strong>Yep, that's about what I expected</strong>.

3. <strong>Your man will still be deployed if you're married. You won't miss him less, he won't come home sooner, and he won't be any safer.</strong> That's not a good reason to get married in a hurry, because he *might* be deploying soon. It's certainly not a good reason to lie to your families. It's nothing special, sweetheart - it's what we all deal with every day. And <strong>it doesn't give you a free ticket to be a self-involved selfish brat and lie to your families and yet still expect them to be super excited for your pretty princess day.
</strong>Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]

Nicely said, calindi

LetsHikeToday · July 2011

You said you aren't coming back but I have a question. How will going to the JOP, being secret for a year, and then have a wedding change your families' opinions? You go on and on about doing it VA use your family didn't react as you wish. This will not change with a big "wedding" next year. So I don't get it?

lyonstm · July 2011

Calindi-- Just a couple of days ago you explained to me some of the reactions from people that come on the boards you couldn't be more correct.

CROSSE--I was honeslty offended when you talked about a Glamorus military life. Ive spent 90% of mine away from mine because WE BOTH WEAR THE UNIFORM. I took pity on you because I understood where you came from and spoke to you politely but then you go and offend the very institution that I serve....\instead of growing some thick skin, you decide to boo hoo because you didn't hear what you wanted to and now you want to run back and listen to what you heard in the first place. Its a good think its your husband wearing the uniform and not you because you are apparently SPINELESS. You don't have an iota of what we do or what your husband does for that matter so if you're going to talk garbage about the military service on a MILITARY Brides forum with an audience of seasoned military wives and Soliders you better be ready for a verbal beat down. Come back when you grow some skin.

good luck to you.

greeneke2 · July 2011

Really, do these people not read previous threads....of course not. That would involve common sense.

kara811 · July 2011

Saw the title and my mind went: Another day, another lying newb about her JOP and PPD.

shan87 · July 2011

Well... since she isn't coming back, I don't have to waste my time. YAY!

SamiJoeB · July 2011

If she wasn't coming back anyway.. why pull a dd? what does it matter what we said to her goodbye note? Children...

calindi · July 2011

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[QUOTE]I think some of you misread or didn't understand what I was saying. We are in no way trying to pull one over on anyone. We are just doing what is best for everyone to make everyone happy, including ourselves. No more ignorant "opinions" needed. I didn't read any further responses, and I won't....
Posted by FiancLaCrosse[/QUOTE]

We didn't "misread" anything, sweetums. And I don't believe you won't read the rest of the responses. Regardless, someone else might and may actually learn something rather than burying their head deeper into the sand.

What we read: you got married in secret and want to know how to keep it secret for your "wedding" next year. That's what we gave advice on - exactly what you told us! Just because you don't like our responses, which were mostly very kind and helpful, you throw a temper tantrum. Based on how your families have responded and your question, I'll guess you're 18 or 19 years old and they probably think you have some growing up to do. Based on how you've responded here, I'd say you <u>definitely</u> have some growing up to do!

lyonstm · July 2011

Uhm... since Im a newbie with some common sense could someone please direct me to the page that tells me what in the world all these acronyms mean? Whats a DD? LOL help!

firsttimersluck · July 2011

bahahaha...
I'm so glad I was in class while this was going on. And Of course it's deleted (thanks Stan for quoting).

Why do people think we are going to be super-duper understanding?!!? Just because we're military?!!? Ack.

calindi · July 2011

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[QUOTE]Uhm... since Im a newbie with some common sense could someone please direct me to the page that tells me what in the world all these acronyms mean? Whats a DD? LOL help!
Posted by lyonstm[/QUOTE]

DD means "Dirty Delete" - it's just considered rude. And since she was already quoted, what she said still exists, so it's pointless. It's sort of juvenile, like, "I don't like what you say, so I'm going to take my toys and play in a different sandbox!"

OP means "Original Poster" - it's used to tell the original poster the comment is to them rather than the people who have commented since (as we tend to go off on side conversations).

BSC means "Bat Sh*t Crazy" - for people who are a bit nutty, especially when they've got all their wedding details planned before they're even engaged.

PIP means "Picture in Post" - self explanatory, right?

I think those are the most common... there's more, but pretty common (IMO means "In my opinion", for example).

lyonstm · July 2011

Awesome, thanks!

divinemsbee · July 2011

Awww. Why you gotta go and make the newbs look bad?

Also, if you had read anything on this board before you would know that a) this is talked about at least once a week (not that anyone wants it to keep happening) and b) Do not blame the Marines for your selfish decision. Stan will have your @ss for breakfast.

iluvmytxrgr · July 2011

So, people who tell her lying to her family is wrong are ignorant? Got it!

kara811 · July 2011

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[QUOTE]Uhm... since Im a newbie with some common sense could someone please direct me to the page that tells me what in the world all these acronyms mean? Whats a DD? LOL help!
Posted by lyonstm[/QUOTE]

<div>Here's a list of the acronyms, most of them should be on there. Just go down to the bottom of the page. </div><div>
</div><div><a href="http://wedding.theknot.com/wedding-tools-help-center/the-knot-about-us/articles/community-frequently-asked-questions.aspx">http://wedding.theknot.com/wedding-tools-help-center/the-knot-about-us/articles/community-frequently-asked-questions.aspx</a></div>

shan87 · July 2011

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[QUOTE]Awww. Why you gotta go and make the newbs look bad? :) Also, if you had read anything on this board before you would know that a) this is talked about at least once a week (not that anyone wants it to keep happening) and <strong>b) Do not blame the Marines for your selfish decision. Stan will have your @ss for breakfast.</strong>
Posted by divinemsbee[/QUOTE]

Literally almost fell of my chair. She gets you Stan ;)

Sammy0709 · July 2011

I sit down for the first time all day, go on my phone at the baseball game DH is umping, and find this. Unfortunately I don't think my personal experience would have helped on this one. Good thing I missed it.

kyrgyzstan · July 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Secret marriage, planning wedding... complicated : Literally almost fell of my chair. She gets you Stan ;)
Posted by shan87[/QUOTE]

<div>She does! Whenever people blame the Marine Corps, I envision them with a voodoo doll of General Amos, which really makes me angry because I adore him. <img style="-webkit-user-select:none;" src="http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/05/1/6/3/76839973885691762.jpg" alt="" /></div><div>Then I imagine diving in front of the pins like a secret service agent.</div>

SamiJoeB · July 2011

I'm le confused.. How did we misread anything? She flat out said "How do we keep it a secret" ie.. how do we continue the lies? Am I wrong?

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