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andy71781 · June 2010

Please read this enlightening article on the Emancipation Proclamation for more information so you can (maybe) stop making such incorrect statements.

Thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation

gottahavashorti · June 2010

Yeah, that didn't decrease my horrific disgust by a single bit. In fact, I think it's worse.

kikibaby · June 2010

Interesting that you appreciate the right to speak your mind, when you don't appreciate the flag of the country that gives you that right while you're here.

tldh · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:1a4f6d6b-b7c4-4114-bb40-6827ada20565">Re: plantation wedding theme</a>:
[QUOTE]Again I say - thank goodness for tldh. Who is like a walking encyclopedia and expresses so nicely the truth. The point is OP that regardless of whether or not YOU think it's offensive this thread has clearly shown that your guests will. I would walk out. How you can not see that is astonishing.
Posted by pixiedust84[/QUOTE]

Thanks Pixiedust. I've been trying to figure out a new area of law to go into. I wonder if the Southern Poverty Law Center would have any reason to have a field office in Philadelphia.

pixiedust84 · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:c7ef31ad-7442-4ae6-a420-b8326bbda0cc">Re: plantation wedding theme</a>:
[QUOTE]THE BIGGEST SLAVE PLANTATION IN AMERICA WAS OWNED BY A BLACK PERSON WHO HAD A TOTAL OF 152 SLAVES! most plantations only had up to ten slaves, and they were treated WAY better than what we are lead to believe. and there is proof of this by several historians including black ones. [/QUOTE]

Oh so that makes slavery okay?? You're the type of person who doesn't believe the holacaust actually happened aren't you. You just made it sound like you were justifying slavery. Not okay.

Again you miss the point. People at your wedding will find the flag offensive. Don't use it as decor.

Oh and no problem tldh - I got your back.

bablingbrooke · June 2010

I suggest you get outside the south more often. There's a big bad world out there and some exposure to it would do you some good.

I don't like the truth about southern history, which is that it fought to the death to retain their rights to slavery. Like it or not, it's part of American history, which also makes it part of my history.

You seriously think you guys had the moral upper hand here? Let me point out some "highlights" for you: One of your congressmen beat the sh!t out of a northern congressman over slavery with a cane. On the floor of congress. Then you seceded because an abolitionist president was elected. Then you started the civil war over "states rights" which was a polite euphemism for slavery (if there were other, secret states' rights that you fought for, please enlighten us). Then you lost the civil war decisively; it didn't have to get as ugly as it did but y'all kept fighting even though the war was a lost cause from the beginning (even Rhett Butler had to acknowledge that). Then you didn't want to ratify the Reconstruction Amendments (13th, 14th and 15th amendments). Then you spent the next 100 years trying to reclaim the past by imposing Jim Crow laws and filibustering the civil rights acts. These are all objective facts, dear.

I would believe you more if you didn't cite southern sites to support your point. If you used a more mainstream site, like wikipedia, you'd get a lot more respect. I really feel sorry for you because you've never questioned the "truth" that you were taught and you're clinging to this narrative without realizing that if people from other states are all saying the same thing, maybe the "truth" you were taught isn't the whole truth. You need to get the other perspective, because you aren't getting it in the south. I used to live in the UK and let me tell you, they have a very different retelling of WWII than we do and we were on the same side. Do you honestly think that your version of events is the only one (or true one)?

bablingbrooke · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:05bc8ad9-9b90-4bcd-862a-949a92cec6ed">Re: plantation wedding theme</a>:
[QUOTE]its not the flag that give you the right its the people who do...............and the people who gave that right werent just northern politians. the flag is a peice of cloth that we let people burn in protest and wear as underwear. it has no special powers and the people who weild it also have no special powers they will use it for good or bad more ofeten then not they use it for both. thats what I'm trying to explain bout the flags. there not differnt but there viewed that way. and its interesting how everyone has a problem with the confederate flag because of slavery but no one has a problem with the american flag even tho that was used to enslave, torture, rape, and massacre THOUSANDS of native americans............all in the name of peace............maybe you need a history lesson about your own flag you take so much pride in before you go disrespect someone elses flag
Posted by smithca88[/QUOTE]
You DO know that the confederate states of america (which don't deserve capitalization) don't exist anymore, right? And that they only existed for about five years? And that your flag is my flag because this is all one country? You DO know all that...right?

bablingbrooke · June 2010

If that's the best retort you've got that's pretty pathetic. I'm guessing you're very young, very impressionable, and not at all worldly. When you get more than a HS education you can start lecturing on history.

I'm going to leave you with some advice: Stay off the national boards. You are just going to continue to make an @ss of yourself. No one on here will ever take you seriously or help you plan a wedding. Find some confederate wedding planning site, because frankly I think just about everyone here is repulsed by your plans.

You make me sad and are not worth another moment of my time.

tldh · June 2010

New history? You mean revisionist history and there is a difference. Before you believe something, critical analysis and contextual thinking should come into play. Again, you are not saying anything I haven't heard before. Anyone can take any little bit and piece from history and concoct their owned skewed version. I could take pieces of history from 2001 - 2009 to "prove" GW Bush was an ultra left wing liberal but Lord knows it wouldn't be true history.

And for future reference, do not malign the Irish people by claiming to be one of them. I was asking the questions because I didn't believe for a minute that you were really Irish but I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in the absence of proof. Unlike you, I am sure, I actually know citizens of Ireland and am angry.

I don't know what disgusts me more. That you and I are both southerners or that you and I are both (so you claim) Irish-American.

And the posts here should clearly tell you that no one thinks all of the south is full of bigots - only those who hold certain beliefs like separating children from mothers, rape, cutting off body part when recaptured, forced labor, whipping, etc. wasn't really all that bad and it was ok because one or two blacks and Cherokee owned slaves. WRONG IS WRONG.

tldh · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:478017d4-7b6b-4060-a4bb-be910dfb87e2">Re: plantation wedding theme</a>:
[QUOTE]If that's the best retort you've got that's pretty pathetic. I'm guessing you're very young, very impressionable, and not at all worldly. When you get more than a HS education you can start lecturing on history. I'm going to leave you with some advice: Stay off the national boards. You are just going to continue to make an @ss of yourself. No one on here will ever take you seriously or help you plan a wedding. Find some confederate wedding planning site, because frankly I think just about everyone here is repulsed by your plans. You make me sad and are not worth another moment of my time.
Posted by bablingbrooke[/QUOTE]

Amen Brooke. I'm going to bed.

Rhoyal_1 · June 2010

Wow!! Yes, it is tacky. Your responses have also been tacky. Again, like PPs, youplaced it on a public forum...you should expect various responses. And yes, you should refer to it as a southern wedding. Even if calling it a plantation wedding and hanging the flag that causes many to cringe does not offend you and your guests...what about staff at the location? Did you stop to think about the people preparing and serving your food? What about everyone who will work very hard to make "your day" special for you?!? What if they are offended by the entire shinding?!? Do you have a backup plan if staff walkout?

abbiewebster · June 2010

i just dont know howyou dare to talk like that about american history to (the majority) of americans on this board, when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.,you say your irish and that your ashamed of the american flag, well if thats the case f*ck of back to your own country. i can't believe there are still people like you in this world. The joy of this country is you have the right to speak your mind, so go ahead but you will get you arse handed to you for it, and having the flag at ur wedding might not offend you but can you guarentee that all of your guests are as small minded as you are?

emarston1 · June 2010

I have a question for the OP (and this is an honest question, I'm not trying to start something.)

While you and your FI view the flag as a symbol of history, his family heritage, etc., you've also seen that it creates an extremely heated debate and is horribly offensive to others. Why would you want to include something in your wedding that could potentially (and most likely) horribly offend some of your guests? Would it not be easier just to exclude this detail?

I think you have gotten some wonderful advice on how to include some southern traditions (mint julips, sweet tea, parasols, etc.) without the controversy.

Part of being a good host is insuring that your guests are comfortable and enjoying themselves. I implore you to at least consider excluding this detail from your wedding. I would be horrified to think that I (as a host) did something that made any of my guests feel uncomfortable.

Ultimately, you are going to do what you want to do but the least we can do is try to convince you to reconsider. Best of luck to you.

Edit: And please don't come back to say that you "know" none of your guests will be offended, because you don't. Just because someone doesn't voice an opinion against something, doesn't mean they aren't offended. They may be scared to say something to you.

Plus I'm sure you don't know all the "plus ones" of all of your guests. They have the same right to be comfortable and enjoy themselves as the invited guest.

ksmith67 · June 2010

Just my two cents.. As someone who displays the flag in their home, how can you say you appreciate it as your "family history" yet still refer to it as the "confederate flag" and "rebel flag"? Last I checked(and I've spent probably 10x as much time studying the Civil War as your average college graduate) it was Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia and it was designed by General Beauregardand was based on an earlier, rejected design for the Confederate National Flag. The Confederate army never used this flag as their "official" flag, rather they used a few variations on it, including the first version, which looked remarkably like the American Flag that you so despise, the second version- which included your "confederate flag" as a corner square, but was primarily white. The third version was the revese color scheme of the second, and the final product was the second with a red band. None of these were what you refer to as your FI's family history. Being that you list yourself as being from North Carolina, I'd wager that your FI's family did NOT fight for the army of Northern Virginia.

And that DIDN'T come from wikipedia, that came from my own knowledge since my ancestors did fight under the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia in order to protect their own lands, not to save slavery.

rodeo417 · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:918693d1-0d61-4f9c-ba23-5a519d75159a">Re: plantation wedding theme</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: plantation wedding theme : just to clarify I'm Irish not american and there have been more crime commited under the american flag then under the confederate thats why its offensive to me I would like to thank people for the other ideas though thats were not related to this misjudgemnt of incorporating the confederate flag. I never thought of going with a Gone With the Wind kinda feel, and I love the horse draw carriage idea! Also, since I have my big girl panties on, I will ask that if my wedding idea offends you then don't reply about it. That would be the GROWN UP thing to do atleast. I believe there was a post made by a moderator on here that specifically said, just because something isn't to you taste doesn't mean its wrong. And not to belittle people with opinions and ideas different from yours or what you would deem acceptable.
Posted by smithca88[/QUOTE] Well if our flag is soo offensive to you, then leave our country and go home.. You asked and we have responded. That flag marks a very dark time in our history. Only a flipping idiot would even think of using it in a wedding..

jenn.daniel · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:8dd2a8ac-1eed-4361-b150-cee2f30826ce">Re: plantation wedding theme</a>:
[QUOTE]Just my two cents.. As someone who displays the flag in their home, how can you say you appreciate it as your "family history" yet still refer to it as the "confederate flag" and "rebel flag"? Last I checked(and I've spent probably 10x as much time studying the Civil War as your average college graduate) it was Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia and it was designed by General Beauregardand was based on an earlier, rejected design for the Confederate National Flag. The Confederate army never used this flag as their "official" flag, rather they used a few variations on it, including the first version, which looked remarkably like the American Flag that you so despise, the second version- which included your "confederate flag" as a corner square, but was primarily white. The third version was the revese color scheme of the second, and the final product was the second with a red band. None of these were what you refer to as your FI's family history. Being that you list yourself as being from North Carolina, I'd wager that your FI's family did NOT fight for the army of Northern Virginia. And that DIDN'T come from wikipedia, that came from my own knowledge since my ancestors did fight under the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia in order to protect their own lands, not to save slavery.
Posted by ksmith67[/QUOTE]

ksmith, I appreciate your post, especially because it didn't come from wikipedia. Fi's ancestor also fought for VA to protect family lands. That's why I don't see the flag to be about slavery etc. That and because I read more than just wikipedia - Dad's a Civil War buff, so we had books, lots of trips to battlefields etc, spending most of our time where NY regiments fought.

tldh, I like Strom Thurmond, and I don't see your point of bring up that he also used the phrase "states' rights".

Yes, the Republican party wanted to abolish slavery and Lincoln had wanted to abolish slavery for some time, but he really wanted to keep the Union together and even said that if it took keeping slavery to get the Union together again, he'd do that. I don't think he was our greatest President, though I am glad he kept the Union together. Putting McClellan in charge of the Army for the first part of the War wasn't a good idea. IMO McClellan wasn't a good leader, but Lincoln didn't want to choose someone who might run against him in 1864. I feel like he put his political interests about the interests of the nation, not that he was the last President to do that.

arthomas82 · June 2010

This is an old post but WHOA, really??! My FI is hispanic and if I walked into a wedding with him and saw that...oh it would be ON.

aerinpegadrak · June 2010

Yeah, deleting didn't help your cause. People remember screennames and now everyone knows that not only are you white trash severely lacking in education, you're also a baby who can't take criticism. Good luck getting answers if you ever have any other wedding-related questions.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:5c43fc1c-fdde-4dc6-b5a8-6ce1c29caacc">Re: plantation wedding theme</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: plantation wedding theme : You DO know that the confederate states of america (which don't deserve capitalization) don't exist anymore, right? And that they only existed for about five years? And that your flag is my flag because this is all one country? You DO know all that...right?
Posted by bablingbrooke[/QUOTE]

Yup! The Confederate States of America exsisted as a "nation" for less than 5 years. No one is alive today who lived in the CSA. Prior to and after the existance of the CSA, its citizens lived under the flag of the United States.

No one is denying that basically EVERY country in the world has good and bad things that have been enacted under its flag. The US is certainly no exception. Neither is Great Britain, France, Russia, Australia, etc, etc. However, these are all diverse countries that have existed for decades and centuries, with living citizens and large populations. The current population of the CSA? Um, 0. Because there IS no CSA.

Not to beat a dead horse, but it would be like displaying the flag of the Third Reich. It does not exist as a nation anymore. It existed for a short period of time. (Though there are living people who lived under that flag.) Today, the flag, and that nation itself, is a symbol of hatred - not diversity. Not "some good things, some bad things." Mainly they're remembered for killing millions of people.

And do you honestly think treating slaves well (i.e. not beating and starving them) justifies denying human being their freedom?! Based on skin color?!

lca315girl · June 2010

If you have to ask such a question, then it's time for you to come down from the mountains for a bit and join civilization.

MyNameIsNot · June 2010

Deleting your posts doesn't make you any less misinformed. It just makes you look like a 3 year old, and totally unwilling to open her eyes and learn a little something.

People like you disgust me.

goheels05 · June 2010

There is a lot of misinformation about the Civil War in this thread. I wish every high schooler in America could read Howard Zinn's book because it is a huge eye-opener to the half-truths that you read in history class during your 12 years of compulsory education. And I'm not just talking about the Civil War--remember the Japanese prison camps the US had during WWII? Or the assault on Native American's culture and livelihood for hundreds of years? It makes me sick the bias with which American history is taught in our school systems.

To the OP: unfortunately, a few ignorant, bigoted individuals have used the Confederate flag as a symbol of racism and hatred, and thus have ruined it for everyone else who considers it to be a symbolism of pride in their ancestry--pride that southern troops made their own uniforms and carried their own guns and put their lives on the line to protect the state rights guaranteed by our constitution. Pride that they would fight for fair use of tax dollars made off of southern crops yet were used exclusively for infrastructure north of the Mason-Dixon line.

Because of this, yes, the Confederate flag is considered tacky. It is what it is. We will never be able to change it; we will never be able to restore it to a more noble meaning, and your guests will probably judge you for having it at your wedding.

FutureMrsTayPrince · June 2010

RASIST!!!!!!!

dawnmarie0627 · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:61625860-2d6c-4cd1-b23d-2f125ddcf079">Re: I've deleted this post to the best of my ability</a>:
[QUOTE]There is a lot of misinformation about the Civil War in this thread. I wish every high schooler in America could read Howard Zinn's book because it is a huge eye-opener to the half-truths that you read in history class during your 12 years of compulsory education. And I'm not just talking about the Civil War--remember the Japanese prison camps the US had during WWII? Or the assault on Native American's culture and livelihood for hundreds of years? It makes me sick the bias with which American history is taught in our school systems. To the OP: unfortunately, a few ignorant, bigoted individuals have used the Confederate flag as a symbol of racism and hatred, and thus have ruined it for everyone else who considers it to be a symbolism of pride in their ancestry--pride that southern troops made their own uniforms and carried their own guns and put their lives on the line to protect the state rights guaranteed by our constitution. Pride that they would fight for fair use of tax dollars made off of southern crops yet were used exclusively for infrastructure north of the Mason-Dixon line. Because of this, yes, the Confederate flag is considered tacky. It is what it is. We will never be able to change it; we will never be able to restore it to a more noble meaning, and your guests will probably judge you for having it at your wedding.
Posted by goheels05[/QUOTE]

That is exactly what I was thinking as I read this thread!

OP, I've read the posts in this thread three times and I honestly cannot come up with the words to explain how tacky hanging a Confederate flag at your reception is.

BTW when you posted about how so much more violence has been committed under the American Flag than the Confederate flag, I think you are showing how little you know about slavery and the Confederacy in general. I doubt you will be but if you are interested in expanding your knowledge on the subject, I would suggest that you look at one or all of these books: "Laboring Women", "Froom Slavery to Freedom", "Labor of Love, Labor of Sorrow", "African American Voices: The Life Cycle of Slavery", and countless others. They let you read accounts of slaves and the horrors and violence that they faced everyday before the start of the Confederacy and during the Confederacy.

aerinpegadrak · June 2010

In addition to People's History of the United States, I recommend Lies My Teacher Told Me. It's a fascinating look at what gets left out of our history books. For instance, did you know that Helen Keller was a rabid socialist? It's an awesome book.

lrowe70 · June 2010

This thread wasn't serious was it? Seems that smithca is a troll wanting to cause chaos.

Aside from what's been written I want to point out that it's a wedding not a political event.
We're having a slight Alaskan theme at our wedding, but we won't be giving Sarah Palin books as favors. While some may like that, others would find that offensive and rude. So we're incorporating non-offensive Alaskan things into the day such as moose, bears, mountains, salmon and a float plane.

Also I'm wondering why you don't want to have an an Irish themed wedding since heritage seems to be so important to you.

Simply Fated · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:d9067d0d-37a1-4436-9499-9588f82d0700">Re: I've deleted this post to the best of my ability</a>:
[QUOTE]In addition to People's History of the United States, I recommend Lies My Teacher Told Me. It's a fascinating look at what gets left out of our history books. For instance, did you know that Helen Keller was a rabid socialist? It's an awesome book.
Posted by aerinpegadrak[/QUOTE]
That isn't a lie, considering teachers don't usually tell you what political views Helen Keller had. I mean, it's an interesting tidbit, but is it really vital information that most teachers choose to leave out of their curriculum when discussing Helen Keller?
Based on that example you gave, the book is very misleading in it's title.

My friend is from Texas and he loves the Confederate flag and can not understand why it has such a negative view. To most of us up here in the North and even places in the South, it's no different than seeing a descendant of a Nazi proudly display the Nazi flag in honor of all their grandfather fought for.
That's fine if you're proud of that, but for a lot of us, it's gross.
The Civil War was definitely not all about race relations, far from it... WWII was also not all about race relations. Both wars had a lot to do about power, money and seizing land. So comparing the Nazi flag and the Confederate flag is not far off the mark. But can you see how either can be offensive to other people, even if to you it is perfectly harmless?

That period in our history isn't something to be forgotten, it's something to be remembered and learned from. And certainly not something to be parodied at a wedding reception.

Lenore2010 · June 2010

You know, this whole thing is bad on so many levels.

First, I think in your "Plantation wedding" plans you are messing around in a history you have judging from your posts very little understanding or respect for. I will not even discuss the Confederate flag issue, just your whole tone and manner here indicates a lack of understanding and respect.

The flag of this country, the United States is "offensive" to you? Please leave us. I am so very tired of people enjoying the benefits of this nation while they berate us and see only the worst in us. You should not be in any nation whose flag "offends" you.

Piss off.

aerinpegadrak · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:5980faa9-6d24-403c-af42-a71a6695019a">Re: I've deleted this post to the best of my ability</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I've deleted this post to the best of my ability : That isn't a lie, considering teachers don't usually tell you what political views Helen Keller had. I mean, it's an interesting tidbit, but is it really vital information that most teachers choose to leave out of their curriculum when discussing Helen Keller? Based on that example you gave, the book is very misleading in it's title.
Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]
That chapter is on heroification. Basically, it says that Helen Keller lived a long, full, and very interesting life, and all anyone ever learns of her is how she learned to communicate as a child. The second edition talks about how the title probably wasn't the best choice, because it's not so much about outright lies as misinformation, oversimplification, and glaring omissions.

tldh · June 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_plantation-wedding-theme?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:10Discussion:b7667332-d9e3-45ec-ab98-6c905bcf1d82Post:215c420f-4eb0-4167-bbe2-180be9148731">Re: I've deleted this post to the best of my ability</a>:
[QUOTE]This thread wasn't serious was it? Seems that smithca is a troll wanting to cause chaos. Aside from what's been written I want to point out that it's a wedding not a political event. We're having a slight Alaskan theme at our wedding, but we won't be giving Sarah Palin books as favors. While some may like that, others would find that offensive and rude. So we're incorporating non-offensive Alaskan things into the day such as moose, bears, mountains, salmon and a float plane. Also I'm wondering why you don't want to have an an Irish themed wedding since heritage seems to be so important to you.
Posted by lrowe70[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry to say this thread was more serious than most of us would have ever preferred anything on TK to be.

That being said, your wedding plans sound fantastic. Alaska is one of the few places I haven't been. I hope you are able to keep us updated on how everything is going.

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