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musicalsunlight · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : Yeah, that's the only thing that sucks. H got called for a job on Oahu, but they were offering about 15% LESS than what he makes here, yet COL is double. Just not worth it, but man...I'd love to live there. We are settling with just visiting often.
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

My mom is super into us living there for a few years while J is in school. She's like, "You'll never get this opportunity later to live in paradise!" Yeah easy for you to say when you wouldn't be paying the $8 for a gallon of milk, haha.

Loopyseven · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : When Hawaii is an option, there are no other options. :-D
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

<div>This is what I was going to say..</div><div>
</div><div>and I don't refrigerate my lunch. I figure just about anything can handle 4 hours of not being refrigerated without going bad. I would not bring fish or seafood for lunch.</div>

adamar15 · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : I'm failing to understand the logic here. You want to get an abortion? Okay, we're going to punish you by forcing a completely unnecessary, invasive procedure on you first. Because that will completely change your mind. <strong>And the politician (I forget who it was) that said women shouldn't be complaining because they already made a decision to be "penetrated" when they got knocked up. Oh. My God.
</strong>Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

Wow. That's special.

josephwedding · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : I'm failing to understand the logic here. You want to get an abortion? Okay, we're going to punish you by forcing a completely unnecessary, invasive procedure on you first. Because that will completely change your mind. <strong>And the politician (I forget who it was) that said women shouldn't be complaining because they already made a decision to be "penetrated" when they got knocked up.</strong> Oh. My God.
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

<div>WTF is wrong with people?!? </div>

adamar15 · February 2012

Why do they need to do the trans-vag ultrasound over a regular one?

baystateapple · February 2012

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[QUOTE]RE: VA law. Blue talked about it in a thread on SB, "WDYT?" To determine the age of the fetus, one needs to do the transvaginal u/s. And before one can perform an abortion, they need to know the age of the fetus. I do agree with Blue that if the law is to force women to look at the picture, that is cruel. But the actual u/s is a medically needed thing. Blue probably said it all better than I can.
Posted by crfb87[/QUOTE]

I missed that thread, so I'm going to go read it now.

But if it's medically necessary, then why don't all states require it? Why does VA have to pass this law?

musicalsunlight · February 2012

Ok but does the bill include a provision that forces the mother to look at the U/S? Because otherwise I guess I don't see a problem to determine the age unless there is a requirement to see the picture.

baystateapple · February 2012

MuSu -- no, VA's law won't say that.

musicalsunlight · February 2012

I think Steph said the procedure is less invasive feeling than a regular pap smear. I do have a problem if it's goal is to persuade the mother to think otherwise.

AllAboutTheBenjamin · February 2012

I was attacked by bees one time. I ran over a hive with a lawn mower.

I wasn't irritated until I read this thread and you guys brought up the VA bill? Wtf? Steph posted this article in SB's gm thread and I kinda think it's genius.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/21/georgia-democrats-to-propose-limitations-on-vasectomies-for-men/?hpt=hp_bn1

ETA - Attacked, not attached by bees. Attached by bees would be pretty... weird. Although probably less painful.

adamar15 · February 2012

Well a pap smear doesn't do anything to determine the age of the fetus, so I'm still confused.

LDYGTR13 · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : It is definitely one of his top choices! :) TX has the lowest COL though, but the worst options for hunting and fishing. So we'll see. :)
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]
DUDE. MS, especially NORTH MS has great hunting and fishing! That's where a lot of deer camps are! <div>
</div><div>Plus, you're right next door to LA "Sportsman's Paradise" - just sayin'. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-sealed.gif" border="0" alt="Sealed" title="Sealed" /></div>

baystateapple · February 2012

Maybe Steph's experience with it is different from mine. I didn't get it because I was pregnant, I've had to have several because of ovarian cysts. So admittedly, it was probably more painful because of that. I have a tipped uterus, and the regular (through the belly, noninvasive) ultrasound doesn't show up well for me (so 10 to 1 if and when I get pregnant, I'm going to have to have the TV ultrasounds). But having the wand up there poking at my ovaries really hurt and I felt sick afterward. Again, I've never had one because of pregnancy, only because of cysts, so I'm sure the situation is different and probably feels different too.

The TV ultrasound is only medically necessary until the fetus is a certain number of weeks old though. Why should the mother have to have a TV ultrasound if it's not medically necessary? That's the part I disagree with. Should the doctor know exactly how old the fetus is before performing an abortion? Yes, absolutely. Should the mother have to go through an unnecessary medical procedure? No, I don't agree with that.

musicalsunlight · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : DUDE. MS, especially NORTH MS has great hunting and fishing! That's where a lot of deer camps are! Plus, you're right next door to LA "Sportsman's Paradise" - just sayin'.
Posted by LDYGTR13[/QUOTE]

Yeah I think MS and SC have our best grade in the hunting & fishing category. LA too, to some extent. (J is looking at LSU). Ole Miss will have to do a lot to sway me from Clemson though, if he gets into both, lol.

Blueyed228 · February 2012

Bay- I have not read the VA law, my response was to Rummi who said they shouldnt have to get an u/s at all. Of course they need an u/s, they have to know if the patient is in fact pregnant, where the pregnancy is (what if its in the tubes?), and how pregnant they are.

Sarahplz pointed out that the law was going to be changed to force the patient to look at the u/s and thats not something I agree with. You can determine the facts about the pregnancy without having to be cruel to the patient.

LDYGTR13 · February 2012

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[QUOTE]But if it's less than 6 weeks, why does the exact age matter? 6 weeks is well within the legal cutoff for an abortion. I don't get it.
Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]
I think it's for locating and making sure there actually IS a fetus there to remove. <div>
</div><div>But I could be crazy.</div>

Loopyseven · February 2012

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[QUOTE]My gender studies teacher just posted pictures of women protesting the law they're trying to pass in VA forcing women who want to have abortions to have unnecessary trans-vaginal ultrasounds. I don't think that irritated is the right word for how I feel about that. Disgusted? That's closer.
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

<div>I thought they just passed a "personhood" law that would make abortion illegal?</div>

musicalsunlight · February 2012

I don't agree with abortion but I don't believe that making it illegal will solve anything and will only make abortions dangerous to a woman who is going to get one anyway. I also don't think it is the government's business.

Blueyed228 · February 2012

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[QUOTE]But if it's less than 6 weeks, why does the exact age matter? 6 weeks is well within the legal cutoff for an abortion. I don't get it.
Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]

It doesnt matter, but they do need to know where the pregnancy is. It also could be an empty sac and at that point an abortion would be pointless. It could be in the tubes and the abortion again would be useless and the tubes could burst causing severe damage/death.

But like I said in that thread, im not 100% certain that a TV u/s is the only option.

musicalsunlight · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : I thought they just passed a "personhood" law that would make abortion illegal?
Posted by Loopyseven[/QUOTE]

It's been put through their legislature but wouldn't actually work unless Roe v Wade is overturned. Sup Ct decisions trump legislation.

baystateapple · February 2012

Blue, I agree with you on that count. I DO believe doctors should perform U/S on women who are going to abort, they have to protect themselves legally and they have to do what is right medically for the mother. And if the TV ultrasound is a medical necessity (pre-6 weeks, or in the case of a mother with a tipped uterus where the fetus isn't visible), yes, that is a necessity.

But making all women have TV U/S's, for no medical reason, I can't understand that.

Loopyseven · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : I'm failing to understand the logic here. You want to get an abortion? Okay, we're going to punish you by forcing a completely unnecessary, invasive procedure on you first. Because that will completely change your mind. And the politician (I forget who it was) that said women shouldn't be complaining because they already made a decision to be "penetrated" when they got knocked up. Oh. My God.
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

<div>OMG... I got nothin'... just... wow.</div>

Blueyed228 · February 2012

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[QUOTE]Blue, I agree with you on that count. I DO believe doctors should perform U/S on women who are going to abort, they have to protect themselves legally and they have to do what is right medically for the mother. And if the TV ultrasound is a medical necessity (pre-6 weeks, or in the case of a mother with a tipped uterus where the fetus isn't visible), yes, that is a necessity.<strong><u> But making all women have TV U/S's, for no medical reason, I can't understand that.
</u></strong>Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

I agree

Loopyseven · February 2012

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[QUOTE]RE: VA law. Blue talked about it in a thread on SB, "WDYT?" To determine the age of the fetus, one needs to do the transvaginal u/s. And before one can perform an abortion, they need to know the age of the fetus. I do agree with Blue that if the law is to force women to look at the picture, that is cruel. But the actual u/s is a medically needed thing. Blue probably said it all better than I can.
Posted by crfb87[/QUOTE]

<div>I really haven't done any research on the subject - but isn't a fetus visible on a REGULAR ultrasound well before it is illegal to do an abortion. So the dildo-cam seems a bit overkill to me.</div>

baystateapple · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions/Irritations/whatever : I really haven't done any research on the subject - but isn't a fetus visible on a REGULAR ultrasound well before it is illegal to do an abortion. <strong> So the dildo-cam seems a bit overkill to me.</strong>
Posted by Loopyseven[/QUOTE]

*snort*

kcscejal · February 2012

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[QUOTE]Blue, I agree with you on that count. I DO believe doctors should perform U/S on women who are going to abort, they have to protect themselves legally and they have to do what is right medically for the mother. And if the TV ultrasound is a medical necessity (pre-6 weeks, or in the case of a mother with a tipped uterus where the fetus isn't visible), yes, that is a necessity. But making all women have TV U/S's, for no medical reason, I can't understand that.
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

I completely agree with this.

Blueyed228 · February 2012

While i dont agree with this sentiment, Ill bet my house that the legislatures defend it by saying that the abortion is much more invasive than a TV u/s. And when that argument comes up, Im going to get pretty stabby about it.

baystateapple · February 2012

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[QUOTE]While i dont agree with this sentiment, Ill bet my house that the legislatures defend it by saying that the abortion is much more invasive than a TV u/s. And when that argument comes up, Im going to get pretty stabby about it.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

Oh, it definitely is. But it's the woman's CHOICE. The TV U/S is not.

And I will get insanely stabby myself.

musicalsunlight · February 2012

Re: "personhood bill" from a news article:

" sponsor of the "personhood" legislation that could outlaw all abortions and, critics claim, some forms of contraception in Virginia if the 1973 Supreme Court ruling legalizing abortion is reversed."

This is where I got the impression that it was dependent on Roe v Wade being overturned. Which hasn't happened.

Blueyed228 · February 2012

At PP, when they do the u/s, they ask you beforehand if you want to know if its twins or not.

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