South Asian Weddings

Please help a white girl!

Hi everyone! Congratulations  on your impending marriages :)

While I am very excited about ours, my partner (Gujarati) and I are running into some major snags with his family and I am really at a loss with how to deal with it. I'll try to make this as brief as possible. We tried to be respectful and book the ceremony at the temple (my parents house wasn't going to work and I'm not religious, so I was cool with it). It ended up the temple backed out for the day we had booked everything else on, so we were going to do a hybrid ceremony at the reception cite. All of the sudden the parents dug their heels in and said there would have to be a temple ceremony and that the temple could do it the day before. We said fine, but were very clear that we could not afford two days and that paying, planning, etc. would be up to them.

Fast forward closer to the date. His parents, mostly mom, have started going crazy about the fact that my parents haven't been involved in the Hindu wedding planning, namely my parents haven't gone out of their way to volunteer to help out and were busy the couple of times his parents contacted them. I should explain that his parents are both retired, while my mother works full time, is preparing to sell the house my parents have been living in for 30 years, and looks after my father, who has a brain tumour and seizures. They don't believe us that my mother is busy and think something else is behind it. They say that this is all about building a relationship with my parents when I think they just want to tell my parents how they expect them to behave. They insist that my parents develop a strong relationship with them before we get married, without realizing that by trying so hard to force a relationship, I don't think my parents are going to want one. I certainly find it hard to be around them when they start preaching everything that I should be doing (as a Gujarati girl) without looking for some compromise between our two cultures. And just trying to hang out and be fun people, as they can be on rare occasions. Frustrating!

The worst part is that his mother has been threatening not to lift a finger on the Hindu ceremony, that she wanted, until I call her and ask her for help. I'm reluctant to do so, as I know what she really wants to do is just ream me out for all the things I'm doing wrong because I have my own culture too. She's also threatened not to come to the "white dress" ceremony & reception and to not invite any of her friends or family to it. I'm tempted to say fine! but have kept quiet on it. In fact, my partner has been doing the communicating so far and I have been trying to stay out of it because I have no interest on launching myself onto that grenade, but I feel incredibly unsupportive of him at the same time.

I just don't know what to do at this point - I don't get what's really going on and my efforts to be assertive have been received but painfully so. If it helps, his parents came over in the seventies and I think have gotten stuck in 1970s India trying desperately to maintain their culture, which I respect. Also, my partner's older brother shows no interest in getting married and has a child with a white woman, though he is happy to side with my partner's parents in these fights where they remain strangely willing to overlook his faux pas. Also, the temple changed hands last month and they were able to offer the day we wanted, but we refused at this point because we had already made other arrangements. I'm hoping one of those might twig with somebody as reasons why this wedding has turned into a nightmare. I feel like I'm living in some sort of alternate universe in terms of reason and logic.

I just don't know what the f is going on and could use some help. Any tips or commiserating would be greatly appreciated, thanks Laughing

Re: Please help a white girl!

  • mkjasanimkjasani member
    10 Comments
    edited December 2011
    Wow - that is a lot and I can completely understand all the pressure you are going through - while I am not in the same position - I understand a lot of what is happening.  To give you some context, I am also Gujarati, my fiance is Jewish.  I also have an older sister who is married to a Danish guy.  So saw her go through more of the cultural 'backlash' if you will than I have had to experience.

    My sister and I were born here and grew up here - yet since my parents came here in '69 in many ways they were still living like they were in India - particularly culturally.

    Indian parents are very rooted in what they feel and believe is right - even if things have changed in India.  And they also don't necessarily realize that by raising their kids here they have made a choice to 'let in' the American culture.

    When it comes to weddings especially they are VERY firmly rooted in what they believe is right - or the appropriate way things are done.  I have had a challenging time with my parents - as in very large arguements every other week. 

    I think one thing that may help you see why there is all this drama is something my father once said to me when we started planning last summer/fall.  I no longer recall the context of the disagreement - but he said to me 'This is my last wedding'... to which I of course retorted - 'This is my ONLY wedding'

    But if you think about it - Indian parents feel that weddings are 'theirs'... it is their 'accomplishment' that their child is getting married and entereing the next stage of life - whereas we don't really see it that way.  (well at least I don't - their accomplishment was raising 2 bright, level headed and independent girls who are contributing members of society - if that makes sense)....

    As for advice, I think your fiance needs to talk to his parents.  I have tried to keep my fiance out of large disagreements with my parents simply because it can be awkward.  By keeping you out of it and talking alone with his parents he can hopefully help them see the drama that has resulted - and hopefully find a compromise. 

    It definitely won't be easy - and it is possible you won't be able to find a compromise - but he should try reaching out an olive branch.  Is there any item you feel you and your FI could compromise on as a peace offering to his parents?  That may be a good starting point.

    As for the situation between your parents - my advice is to try to stay out of it.  I think you and your FI can continue to let his parents know that your mom has a lot on her plate right now - and maybe your mom may want to give them a call or send them a note to explain.  I think given what you have said it his parents should be very understanding and supportive - and actually be offering to help them with anything - if they really want to build a good relationship. 

    Anyhow - not sure if any of this helps.  But I do hope it helps to hear that someone else's parents are coo-koo with their kids weddings....good luck!


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  • kavita85kavita85 member
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    edited December 2011
    Hi there and welcome! I'm sorry you're having so many troubles with your FMIL. It seems a lot of non-Indian folks are having trouble with their Indian future in-laws regarding culture clashes and differences in expectations. My parents (Indian) acted similarly to my FI (non-Indian). I guess one thing that helped for my parents' relationship with my FI's parents was inviting each other over for dinner to get to know one another. Once my parents figured out that his parents were very nice people and not their enemies, they calmed down. Though I'm not sure if your parents have already tried this or can't find the time.

    I completely agree that your FMIL is acting very unreasonably about demanding your mom volunteer to help with the Hindu ceremony and not compromising the two cultures. I think you're doing a very good job staying out of it and letting your FI handle his mom. It seems like you've tried everything you could, and his parents are still being ridiculous. I'm sorry I don't have better advice, but pick your battles wisely and put your foot down when you know others are in the wrong.
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  • SonaliPopSonaliPop member
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    edited December 2011
    You may have to be the party who is a bit more grown up in this situation. If you damage your relationship with your in-laws - even if they are wrong  - it will never smooth over. Yes, you should stand your ground but you should also understand...theirs (and mine - I'm Gujarati) is a culture rich with traditions that you may not be so keen on. Your fiance should speak to his parents and you should keep calm. As for your parents and his parents...it's true - Indian families seek to bridge a relationship between both families. In fact, we pride ourselves on it as Indians - it's a GOOD thing. If your parents do not want one, that is understandable, but, that's where they may stand on that. I don't know what to tell you...how was your relationship with his parents before you got engaged?
  • smordysmordy member
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    edited December 2011
    Thanks so much for your support and wisdom everyone! It really does make me feel better to hear that this experience isn't altogether uncommon. I agree that the best move at this point is to stay out of it so thanks for the confirmation.

    I should clarify that I am not unsupportive of our parents having a good relationship. Infact, they have already met and got on like a house on fire - they lived in the same area at another point in their lives. I just question his parents motivation to get together now in the context of all that's happening. Certainly when they've pushed me to visit with them in the past, it has been so they can launch into  a tirade about what horrible children we are because we don't call/visit enough (we live across the country). But I will remain cautiously optimistic as our parents are visiting each other this evening (with my partner to moderate, hopefully). 

    Our relationship has notably deteriorated since the engagement. Congratulations wasn't exactly the first words out of their mouths when my partner told them about it, even though I'd always thought our visits had gone well with them before. I am grateful that they haven't been sending Gujarati girls his way or anything, so they seem to have accepted it, although there was a comment the other day to my partner about how he could marry someone who doesn't understand their customs.

    Anyway, I think I've dumped on you guys enough, but I've really appreciated your time and kind words!!
  • edited December 2011
    Dear Smordy!
    I wish I could give you a hug you sound like my twin, I am indian so is FI but guess what my situation is word to word your situation...to the T. His parents done all those threats about not showing up and all. First I felt so awful as if I have done something wrong...a year later after so many attempts, I stopped blaming myself, I am succesful happy non-dependent woman, they have nothing to pick on me but the mere fact that FI didnt get a arrange marriage, he is born and brought up here and his parents are 10 times more conservative than mine. I have gone thru hell with them I remained polite and respectfull to them,even my parents got dragged into this mess. I digress, but my point in all  this is YOU ARE NOT ALONE, I am dealing with the same dilema, the wedding is 2 months away and I dont even know if his parents are going to show up, they havent told any of FI's extended fam about the wedding.
    SO yea take a breather, avoid his mother she will throw her tantrums, you cant do nothing, it will just make you feel miserable if you try to please them, because there is no pleasing such ppl. Continue your planning, you can always vent here, we will def. lend you a ear. Feel better, in the end you are doing all this for the one you love, screw all that dont care for your happiness. Happy planning!!
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