In my office I definitely notice a divide between the "good old boys" who dive into happy hour most nights and the rest of the office who don't even get an invite. The funny thing is these guys are 25-45, so not that old, but that is how they act. I got invited a bunch and went, but other co-workers definitely acted I was a jerk for breaking into the hated club. On the other hand there is the 'barely legal' cute girl club that every one is dying to be invited to go out with. Wtf? I have never gone out with them because I am 'old' since I am married. I am 25. None of it makes sense.
Why is work like highschool sometimes? Experiences?
Re: S/O smokers at work - drinkers?
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At my current store, everyone has each other on FB, and it's no big deal, but only the supervisors hang out together, and it creates huge rift between them and the rest of the store. They are so much more clique-y than at my last store that very few people respect them. There are a few that are awesome no matter what, but there has been some turnover recently (they are rarely in position at the same store for more than 18 months), and a lot of the newer ones have made the clique even more apparent, and are just making everyone else hate all the supervisors more. There are always pics of the parties they have all over FB.
Vacation with Alix, Andy, Mandy, and FLORENCE. AND HER MACHINE.
The Margarita Evolution
I kind of hover in between. But I'm also not a big drinker (one and I can't drive any more). I wait until the big Halloween party we go to each year and let J watch my back.
Do not mess in the affairs of dinosaurs because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
I love you Missy. Even though you are not smart enough to take online quizzes to find out really important information. ~cew
I think it totally fine for a boss to go out with every one else though. They just have to leave at some point so every one can tlak about them
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[QUOTE]It happens, Meg. IT HAPPENS. How have you been over there in S outh B each?
Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]
Non existant. I think this is first time I knotted in a longgg time. Sad, I know. But yeaaah shades on <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" />
RAWR!
Vacation with Alix, Andy, Mandy, and FLORENCE. AND HER MACHINE.
The Margarita Evolution
Vacation with Alix, Andy, Mandy, and FLORENCE. AND HER MACHINE.
The Margarita Evolution
[QUOTE]My company has strange rules about certain people hanging out, and its followed differently everywhere. My boss at my last store would go out with my team leads, but if I was there, she couldn't be. Then an intern went out with the group, and hooked up with one of the team leads, and blew it for everyone because it got very messy. None of the supervisors had anyone but each other on their facebooks or anything. At my current store, everyone has each other on FB, and it's no big deal, but only the supervisors hang out together, and it creates huge rift between them and the rest of the store. They are so much more clique-y than at my last store that very few people respect them. There are a few that are awesome no matter what, but there has been some turnover recently (they are rarely in position at the same store for more than 18 months), and a lot of the newer ones have made the clique even more apparent, and are just making everyone else hate all the supervisors more. There are always pics of the parties they have all over FB.
Posted by qwerty777[/QUOTE]
Qwerty, it sounds like you work for the same retailer I did for 6 years, based on the language you're using. :) I worked at 3 different stores, and there were all pretty cliquey, and the same thing happened. The people who went out every damn night got to be friends with the team leads, and then they got other privileges and such. Annoying.
I was very naive, I know.
ETA a few stories: I had an old co-worker who seriously was livid with me because I didn't tell him "Good Morning" (I said Hi) before I asked him to fix something he screwed up. He refused to talk to me until I said "Good Morning".
He also threw a hissy fit in my office one day in front of a bunch of our collegues, told me that I "was the single most frustrating part of his job" (5 minutes before he was telling me he was trying to work on our communication), and assorted other things.
Needless to say he no longer works with us.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: S/O smokers at work - drinkers? : Qwerty, it sounds like you work for the same retailer I did for 6 years, based on the language you're using. :) I worked at 3 different stores, and there were all pretty cliquey, and the same thing happened. The people who went out every damn night got to be friends with the team leads, and then they got other privileges and such. Annoying.
Posted by Krysti21[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it is incredibly annoying. I don't know if I used any specific language, but I will say that we don't call them supervisors, but if I use their actual title, it doesn't make as much sense (I don't think, at least). Right now I'm shooting for a position in headquarters, and the department I would be in would be so much nicer, and from what I understand, isn't cliquey at all, which is very appealing to me. They all seem to act like adults.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: S/O smokers at work - drinkers? : Yeah, it is incredibly annoying. I don't know if I used any specific language, but I will say that we don't call them supervisors, but if I use their actual title, it doesn't make as much sense (I don't think, at least). Right now I'm shooting for a position in headquarters, and the department I would be in would be so much nicer, and from what I understand, isn't cliquey at all, which is very appealing to me. Th<strong>ey all seem to act like adults.</strong>
Posted by qwerty777[/QUOTE]
More people should do that. Here's hoping!
But since the lay-offs, my office is actually way more laid-back. Of course, they laid off the HR rep...
There's one group of guys in our office who go out to lunch almost everyday, take each other out for birthdays, go to happy hour, etc. But no one else is really looking to "break in" to the club.
There are 2 people left I tag along with at lunch sometimes, but mostly I catch up on stuff. I'm really friendly with people at work, but I don't let it cross into my personal life. I've been burned like that before. Thankfully, most of my coworkers are married or have kids or houses, and therefore have their own personal lives and don't need to drag work stuff outside the office.
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[QUOTE]You can be fired for spreading a rumor?
Posted by kellyjellybelly[/QUOTE]
I was a little shocked by this too. Even if you do spread some horrific rumor, isn't it just one employee's word against another?
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[QUOTE]Oh I have co-workers on facebook, all right, but they can't see a damn thing.
Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]
I have FORMER coworkers on FB. Not current.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: S/O smokers at work - drinkers? : I was a little shocked by this too. Even if you do spread some horrific rumor, isn't it just one employee's word against another?
Posted by MeaghanandMichael[/QUOTE]
<div>No, because let's say it's about why someone got fired and management doesn't want that spread and makes it clear, anyone who spreads it is going to hear 'where did you hear that?" from a direct boss, and it will eventually lead to who is spreading it. Disharmony in the workplace + direct insubordination of manager = two fireable offenses.</div><div> My work is SUPER strict about talking about other's salary. If anyone is caught talking about it (or even allegedly), it's instant dismissal. Tips = salary, so it happens a lot, actually.</div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: S/O smokers at work - drinkers? : No, because let's say it's about why someone got fired and management doesn't want that spread and makes it clear, anyone who spreads it is going to hear 'where did you hear that?" from a direct boss, and it will eventually lead to who is spreading it. Disharmony in the workplace + direct insubordination of manager = two fireable offenses. My work is SUPER strict about talking about other's salary. If anyone is caught talking about it <strong>(or even allegedly)</strong>, it's instant dismissal. Tips = salary, so it happens a lot, actually.
Posted by reddy123[/QUOTE]
So, basically, if you really dislike someone you work with, you can easily set them up to get fired? I mean, in theory, you could go to management and tell them that Mary Jane is talking about Sally's salary and she'd be fired?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: S/O smokers at work - drinkers? : So, basically, if you really dislike someone you work with, you can easily set them up to get fired? I mean, in theory, you could go to management and tell them that Mary Jane is talking about Sally's salary and she'd be fired?
Posted by kellyjellybelly[/QUOTE]
<div>Actually we do have a "three strikes" rule, so the manager might have to hear it from three different people at three different times...</div><div>Also, another great way to get someone fired, "so-and-so said _____ to me and upset me and the whole team, causing disharmony." (key word: disharmony)</div>
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[QUOTE]Oh and "disharmony in the workplace" is a great loophole that can get anyone fired at my workfor almost any reason. Awesome.
Posted by reddy123[/QUOTE]
I am late to this, but I wanted to say that I am really surprised that you don't have at-will employment at your workplace.