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Make her go away!! Live Journal

I don't know if anyone remembers the story of my "friend" that came to Vegas and suddenly both of her friends flaked on her so she had no where to stay and asked to crash with me.  Then she realized she had no money in her bank account and no credit cards (I did not give her money...I made her have a friend wire her some).  Then she was snappy with my daughter, called my friends snotty, and used my computer to meet a guy on match.com, then went to meet him at a salad buffet and had sex with him all day after telling me he looked nothing like his picture and was boring but got better after a bottle of wine.  Oh...and she tried to bring this stranger to my house.  Oh, and she said my dog smelled like a dirty crotch, which obviously must have been her own.  Oh, and she said she wanted to be a third partner in my marriage.

At my wedding, which I felt obligated to ask her to since she asked me to be the bridesmaid in hers, she told stories to my new family about doing ecstasy and thinking her cat was telling her to kill her husband. She also insinuated to my aunt that I had a drinking problem. Her husband spent the whole time at a casino and left her shortly thereafter since he said she is needy, clingy and an embarassment to bring around his friends and doctor clients.

She called me bawling and guilt tripped me into coming to her wedding a few years ago in the Carribean since none of her other friends or family could afford to go and I was the only one that could.  (Then don't have a destination wedding dumbass) Then I had to wear a full length sequin gown in the Caribbean in August.  But I had a fun date and I like trips so I went.

Shockingly, this is not the only reason I dislike her.  I just find her completely annoying in every way, pushy, and demanding. Something about her just makes my skin crawl.  We were only friends due to mutual friends.  I haven't called her in years although she calls me and will keep calling over and over until I call back.

The obvious answer here is I need to grow a pair and cut her off.  I am allowing her to remain in my life.  I have been avoiding her calls for the last 5 months, but she is not getting the hint.  It is very easy for me to cut a person out of my life by never speaking to them again.  But I struggle a lot with having to TELL someone I do not want to be their friend or talk to them.  Her messages are getting desperate, like she NEEDS to talk to me. 

I hate to kick someone while they are down (husband left her, she is broke, no money because she quit her job while married even though husband told her not too) but I do not enjoy speaking to her and I do not enjoy her company.  I don't think she is going to get the hint and stop calling me.  I don't want an apology because I don't want to be her friend.

So how do I do this?  Do I just have to tell her that I don't think she has any redeeming qualities and she makes my skin crawl?  Do I soften the blow and say she gives me anxiety and I find her friendship to be stressful and full of pressure, but I have just been too nice to confront her until now, and I feel we have gone in different directions?  How do I get rid of her??
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  • I am passive aggressive.  I'd ignore her until she went away.
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  • Use the classic "I just feel we're in two different places in our lives" and that you've grown apart and there's no going back to the way it used to be. That's probably what I would do.
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  • Oy. Umm, I hate confrontation, and I'm not sure I could ever tell someone I didn't want to talk to them every again without taking it back two seconds later for fear of being mean---so, I'd call your phone company and have them block her number. Win-Win!!

    (this chick sounds like such a peach)
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  • Change your number...and move if necessary.
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  • Man, your crummy friends are way more excitingly crummy than my crummy friends.

    I'd be tempted to just keep ignoring her calls, but if she's harassing you and you really want her to stop, then you probably should just pick up the phone at some point and tell her how you feel. It's probably better to be polite but firm, and tell her that you feel that the two of you have grown apart, and this friendship really isn't working for you anymore, and you'd prefer it if she didn't call you.
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  • If it gets bad, change your phone number and don't give her the new one.
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  • Yes, I am very passive aggressive.  And nonconfrontional.  I get anxiety every time she calls.  I already live on the other side of the country but I refuse to change my number. 

    I think my hangup about the "different people now" thing is I don't want to come across like a snobby judgemental person now that I am married.  I have plenty of slutty friends that I adore and my husband adores.  I just don't like her personality in any way.  And pushy persistent people bug me more than anything in the world.
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  • I'd probably wuss out and email her.
    I'd tell her that we're too different and the friendship doesn't have anything to offer me.  It's not a real frienship if it's only one sided - and that I wanted to be honest about the situation. 
    I'd also probably throw in there that her frienship isn't healthy for you or your DH and you feel it best to have more space and end the friendship. 

    Nice, but clear... People like that generally have a hard time accepting things like this unless it's spelled out and very clear. 

    Sorry you're having to end the friendship - but it does sound like it's for the best.
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    [QUOTE]Yes, I am very passive aggressive.  And nonconfrontional.  I get anxiety every time she calls.  I already live on the other side of the country but I refuse to change my number.  I think my hangup about the "different people now" thing is I don't want to come across like a snobby judgemental person now that I am married.  I have plenty of slutty friends that I adore and my husband adores.  I just don't like her personality in any way.  And pushy persistent people bug me more than anything in the world.
    Posted by saschaduran[/QUOTE]

    <div>Then yeah, I'd go the blocking her number route. </div>
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  • Block her number then...that way you don't have to change your number, or say anything to her.
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  • I'd do the e-mail route as well. I would use the "asking to be a third" in your relationship as the catalyst. Explain that her behavior the last time you saw her was completely out of line. You no longer feel comfortable around her, and that the friendship has broken beyond repair. Wish her all the best, but request that she not try to contact you again.
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  • I have thought of the email shanwalk.  It is easier for me to put my feelings out there without having to hear someone cry or be upset about what I am telling them.  I have trouble saying mean things to people personally.

    And yes, the DH HATES her.  I have never heard him dislike anyone more in my life.  He is a really positive nonjudgemental person.  But he felt she takes advantage of my inability to stand up for myself and put my foot down. 

    And the way she laughs....UGGGHHHHHHHHHH....it is a high pitch cackle.  It is just horrible.
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  • Can you block a number on your cell phone?
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  • I do remember that story. I'd kick her in the junk. I know, not very helpful advice. Honestly I'd probably just ignore her until she went away.
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    [QUOTE]Can you block a number on your cell phone?
    Posted by saschaduran[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm almost positive you can.</div>
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    [QUOTE]I'd probably wuss out and email her. I'd tell her that we're too different and the friendship doesn't have anything to offer me.  It's not a real frienship if it's only one sided - and that I wanted to be honest about the situation.  I'd also probably throw in there that her frienship isn't healthy for you or your DH and you feel it best to have more space and end the friendship.  Nice, but clear... People like that generally have a hard time accepting things like this unless it's spelled out and very clear.  Sorry you're having to end the friendship - but it does sound like it's for the best.
    Posted by shanwalk2[/QUOTE]

    This, although I wouldn't say emailing is "wussing out." If you call her, whatever is said is said, and it puts you on the spot if she reacts badly. You can write and edit and re-edit an email before you send it to make sure you get your point across exactly the way you want it. Good luck with whatever you decide. You're a saint for putting up with it for this long.
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  • Ugh, I hate confronting people too.  It just sucks.  Even when they are delightfully sucky.

    I'd probably go the email route too.  Same as Jasmine, say that the last time you saw here, there were things that happened that were unacceptable.  Pretty much everything you've explained here, but probably not verbatim!
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    [QUOTE]I have thought of the email shanwalk.  It is easier for me to put my feelings out there without having to hear someone cry or be upset about what I am telling them.  I have trouble saying mean things to people personally. And yes, the DH HATES her.  I have never heard him dislike anyone more in my life.  He is a really positive nonjudgemental person.  But he felt she takes advantage of my inability to stand up for myself and put my foot down.  And the way she laughs....UGGGHHHHHHHHHH....it is a high pitch cackle.  It is just horrible.
    Posted by saschaduran[/QUOTE]

    yep.. then I'd just play up the "I need to do what is best for me, and my relationships.  My priorities are maintaining a healthy relationship with my husband... and I think that it would best for me to end this friendship with you for a variety of differing examples".

    Block her number
    Then email her
    You'll never know if she tries to contact you about the email ... unless she emails you back - and that would give you time to put together your response.
  • I'm fairly sure you can block a number on your cell phone.  Given what a crackpot she is, it would be hard for me to NOT confront her, but I'm like that. 
  • Hey...here is a side note to the story...

    One of my very best friends has been changing into a huge snotty flaky celebrity money obsessed pathological liar after living in Beverly Hills the last several years.  Although she drives me crazy, she is one of the funniest people I have ever known and I miss her.  She never ever returns my calls and constantly flakes on every plan she makes with me.  So I won't call her anymore either.

    IS SHE TRYING TO GET RID OF ME THE WAY I AM TRYING TO GET RID OF THIS OTHER GIRL??  Have I become the annoying friend that won't go away??  Hahaha...
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    [QUOTE]Hey...here is a side note to the story... One of my very best friends has been changing into a huge snotty flaky celebrity money obsessed pathological liar after living in Beverly Hills the last several years.  Although she drives me crazy, she is one of the funniest people I have ever known and I miss her.  She never ever returns my calls and constantly flakes on every plan she makes with me.  So I won't call her anymore either. IS SHE TRYING TO GET RID OF ME THE WAY I AM TRYING TO GET RID OF THIS OTHER GIRL??  Have I become the annoying friend that won't go away??  Hahaha...
    Posted by saschaduran[/QUOTE]

    surely not if she's making plans.  Now if you could never reach her and she never set 'dates' with you... I'd say you were lookin' in the mirror.  But it seems like you're in the clear and have bizzare taste in "friends".
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    [QUOTE]Ugh, I hate confronting people too.  It just sucks.  Even when they are delightfully sucky. I'd probably go the email route too.  Same as Jasmine, say that the last time you saw here, there were things that happened that were unacceptable.  Pretty much everything you've explained here, but probably not verbatim!
    Posted by mocha beans[/QUOTE]

    Omg...can you imagine if I just forwarded her this thread?  Wow, I must be 2 faced because I could never say these kind of things to her face.  That would just be cruel:) 
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  • Dear Sacha's Friend,
     The last time you visited, several things happened that made me and my family extremely uncomfortable. Considering you had no place to stay, I allowed you to stay in my home. During your visit, you requested that I let you bring a random man into my home. That is completely unnacceptable and shows a complete disregard for the safety of my daughter and my family.You also made inapporpriate sexual remarks to myself and my husband. At this point, I cannot maintain a friendship with you. The damage to our friendship during you last visit is irreprabable.I have overlooked many inapprpriate behaviors in the past, but I am at a point in my life where I cannot deal with the stress and anxiety caused by these incidents. Although I cannot continue this relationship, I wish you all the best in life.
     -Sacha

    Or something to that effect.
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  • Sascha, I'd just continue to ignore her.  Telling her it's over isn't necessary, and will likely result in her crying and begging and you on the phone with her for hours because you don't want to hang up on her.  Block her number.  If you can't, fix it so your phone has a special ringer for her - silence. 
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    [QUOTE]Dear Sacha's Friend,  The last time you visited, several things happened that made me and my family extremely uncomfortable. Considering you had no place to stay, I allowed you to stay in my home. During your visit, you requested that I let you bring a random man into my home. That is completely unnacceptable and shows a complete disregard for the safety of my daughter and my family.You also made inapporpriate sexual remarks to myself and my husband. At this point, I cannot maintain a friendship with you. The damage to our friendship during you last visit is irreprabable.I have overlooked many inapprpriate behaviors in the past, but I am at a point in my life where I cannot deal with the stress and anxiety caused by these incidents. Although I cannot continue this relationship, I wish you all the best in life.  -Sacha Or something to that effect.
    Posted by jasmineh7777[/QUOTE]

    Copy and paste that.  Very diplomatic!
  • I did have bizarre taste in friends shan.  I have always been drawn to very colorful, dramatic, high maintainence people, which is exhausting.  These are all the friends I have had over 10 years.  My recent friends are very grounded and normal and probably more reflective of what I want in life now, as opposed to 10 years ago.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Make her go away!! Live Journal : Copy and paste that.  Very diplomatic!
    Posted by mocha beans[/QUOTE]

    yeahhhh. this is good stuff, right here. copy, paste, and send!
  • Jasmine...you rock!

    You hit the nail on the head without saying mean the hurtful things that I have a desire to say.

    By the way..while she was here she complained about another friend that had gotten married and thought she was too good for her and dumped her.  All I could think was that she was probably relieved to have an excuse.
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    [QUOTE]I did have bizarre taste in friends shan.  I have always been drawn to very colorful, dramatic, high maintainence people, which is exhausting.  These are all the friends I have had over 10 years.  My recent friends are very grounded and normal and probably more reflective of what I want in life now, as opposed to 10 years ago.
    Posted by saschaduran[/QUOTE]

    I get it.  My very best friend (and MOH) is one of those bright, colorful people that I love dearly but no longer have anything in common with.  Maintining our relationship is something we both want to do - it's just a lot harder than it once was.  Thankfully, she tries too - which helps. 

    However, when friends become reflective of your old life - it may be time to let them go so you can continue with friends that are good friends in the now.  
    ...and it sounds like this will be a major step in the right direction to shake this one off for good. 
  • No problem. I would still block the number though.
    Hope it all works out. Even if her feelings are hurt, she said your dog smelled like crotch. A real friend would never say that. That's like telling someone their baby is ugly. (Though I am positive your dogs smell lovely. Wink)
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