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VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment

Okay ... here we go. Disclaimer: I am overreacting.

FI and I created a custom design in Photoshop for our save-the-date envelopes. We used VistaPrint's template and follows the guidelines exactly. I confirmed with a customer service representative that we had done it correctly and everything would print perfectly. We paid, ordered, it was shipped to us. End of story? Nooo.

It's a really small problem, but the envelopes arrived looking fantastic, except for a white line on the back side where it wasn't folded over enough so you can see the original color of the paper. See photo 1.




So I contacted them and they said it was their printing error and they were really good about sending a free replacement on rush delivery (but there was no discount beyond that). When I asked about a quality check on the product before it's shipped, they said they don't do a quality check, even on products that have already been screwed up once. But not to worry, because they looked at our design and upload thoroughly and it will print fine.

Well. Got the envelopes today. Now there's a line on each side of the fold on the back. See photo 2.




Basically the bleed on their template doesn't go far enough, so I'm thinking it won't turn out right no matter how many times they reprint it.

Now I'm not even that bugged by the lines. I'm more annoyed at the time I put in to trying to correct it, and their saying "no, it's great, it's fine, but we don't do a quality check before sending anything", and it STILL not turning out the way they said it would. Ugh. Sorry. Vent ending ... soon.

We wanted to send these out by now, and knowing another set is just as likely to have the same problem, I don't want to wait again for it. But I still feel screwed by VistaPrint. We paid over $80 (about $20 of that went toward rushed shipping the first time, which they did reimburse), and I don't like that we aren't getting what we paid for. Advice?
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Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment

  • edited December 2011
    I would say let them know it happened AGAIN, but that you can't wait for another set, so you want you money back or at least the money you paid to go toward another order (like store credit). That totally sucks.

    Also, do you think that you could remove the word "gypped" (or "jipped" as you spelled it) from your post. This term is highly offensive to me, and I highly doubt the folks at Vistaprint are gypsies. I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
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  • LittleSweetieLittleSweetie member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_minnesota-minneapolis-st-paul_vistaprint-mess-up-follow-up-aka-bridezilla-moment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:81Discussion:f148ec0e-7686-4df6-8217-0368949d831cPost:01c4ae62-42a0-4088-b344-be059511d146">Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment</a>:
    [QUOTE]I would say let them know it happened AGAIN, but that you can't wait for another set, so you want you money back or at least the money you paid to go toward another order (like store credit). That totally sucks. Also, do you think that you could remove the word "gypped" (or "jipped" as you spelled it) from your post. This term is highly offensive to me, and I highly doubt the folks at Vistaprint are gypsies. I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
    Posted by emilykathleen511[/QUOTE]

    <div>Could you explain why you find "gypped" to be offensive?  TIA</div>
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  • edited December 2011
    It is a slight against gypsies. It is derived from the word gypsies with the assumption that gypsies cheat people. It is like using "gay" to describe your homework assignment or "retard" to describe your little brother being annoying.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_minnesota-minneapolis-st-paul_vistaprint-mess-up-follow-up-aka-bridezilla-moment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:81Discussion:f148ec0e-7686-4df6-8217-0368949d831cPost:e4d49077-7bbb-4601-8b9e-a68a0d1e3f88">Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment</a>:
    [QUOTE]It is a slight against gypsies. It is derived from the word gypsies with the assumption that gypsies cheat people. It is like using "gay" to describe your homework assignment or "retard" to describe your little brother being annoying.
    Posted by emilykathleen511[/QUOTE]

    <div>I don't know the historical relevance or specific examples, but if that's how gypsies treated people, then I don't see why that term is offensive.  I don't think it's the same as gay or retard in your examples other than the terms are offensive to people.</div><div>
    </div><div>ETA: Example - if a gyspy duped someone, the term "gypped' came into play rightfully so.  Another example re: gay/retard aren't valid - if your homework actually had sexual intercourse with other homework of the same gender, it would be gay.  Since it did not, calling your homework gay isn't valid.  Saying you got gypped would be true since it relates back to the origin of the word and isn't just about a negative connotation.  Getting gypped has a meaning, and it was technically used correctly here.</div><div>
    </div><div>OP - I hope you get things worked out with VP - might be time to cut your losses and ask for a refund/credit.</div>
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  • polichikpolichik member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_minnesota-minneapolis-st-paul_vistaprint-mess-up-follow-up-aka-bridezilla-moment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:81Discussion:f148ec0e-7686-4df6-8217-0368949d831cPost:e4d49077-7bbb-4601-8b9e-a68a0d1e3f88">Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment</a>:
    [QUOTE]It is a slight against gypsies. It is derived from the word gypsies with the assumption that gypsies cheat people. It is like using "gay" to describe your homework assignment or "retard" to describe your little brother being annoying.
    Posted by emilykathleen511[/QUOTE]

    I completely agree with this. It stereotypes an entire culture, which isn't ok. It's like the term "Indian giver" or others that I don't particularly want to type.

    Even if some members of the culture behaved a certain way, making a blanket insult about an entire group is ignorant. I'm sure that's not how you meant it, OP, but it's good to be aware of these things.

    ETA: And LittleSweetie, I'm surprised that you're defending this. Not all gypsies swindled people, and I'm disappointed that you're implying otherwise. It's the same as implying that all Polish people are stupid, that all Jewish people are cheap, or that all Black men are deadbeat drug addicts. It's just not the best expression to use.
  • babybrd182babybrd182 member
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    edited December 2011
    ALRIGHT! Back to subject...(deep breath, ladies)....I would definitely call them back, AGAIN (Sorry). I thought the first picture it was just that little area of white...but then I noticed how poor quality the whole thing was. Really makes me think twice about using them..  :(
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    edited December 2011
    OP, don't leave to make a pot roast! That's all I'm sayin'!
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    edited December 2011
    Jess, I love you!
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    edited December 2011
    Awwww debbie! That blows!!! I totally think they at  the very least owe you store credit. You are basically doing them a service by letting them know that their templates are off, so they should either A)fix their template and give you replacements ASAP, or B) at the very least refund your money for what you paid. 

    I want to add that I have had great experiences with vistaprint, and this is actually the 1st time I have seen anything otherwise. In other words, I wouldn't let this one incident deter others from using them....just maybe don't use them for envelopes, lol. 

    Good luck lady! I hope it all works out!
  • edited December 2011
    I should also add that I got my STD magnets from them (that my sister designed) and they were perfect. Don't mean to detract from your negative experience, but I didn't want any others thinking that this is how Vistaprint usually works.

    LittleSweetie: I also am surprised you would defend a stereotype.
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  • debbieupperdebbieupper member
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    edited December 2011
    Thanks so much for all the input. Just to follow up on a few, erm, *updates* to this post while I stepped away ...

    EmilyKathleen- I am sorry about the offensive term. I didn't realize it was offensive and I think your request that I not use it was completely polite, so no hard feelings and I'll think twice before I use it again.

    Babybrd- The rest of the envelope actually turned out beautifully! The photos above are from my iPhone, so the designs look blurry. In actuality, they're not.

    I definitely am not going to not order from VistaPrint again because of this. We still plan to use them for invite suite and other stuff (especially the FREE stuff). But I think I will follow up and request/demand a refund for the envelopes.


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  • LittleSweetieLittleSweetie member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_minnesota-minneapolis-st-paul_vistaprint-mess-up-follow-up-aka-bridezilla-moment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:81Discussion:f148ec0e-7686-4df6-8217-0368949d831cPost:b549f16e-7423-4a25-8337-96317ddfcf50">Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment</a>:
    [QUOTE]I should also add that I got my STD magnets from them (that my sister designed) and they were perfect. Don't mean to detract from your negative experience, but I didn't want any others thinking that this is how Vistaprint usually works. LittleSweetie: I also am surprised you would defend a stereotype.
    Posted by emilykathleen511[/QUOTE]

    <div>I wasn't aware it was a stereotype until this evening - just trying to understand, not defend, though it probably came across that way.</div>
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  • edited December 2011
    That sucks with Vistaprint.  I didn't have the *best* experience, but it's partially my fault.  Our STDs came out a little fuzzy on the front.  I never received the warning that the photo wasn't a high enough resolution, so I didn't think twice about it.  However, after, I went back and looked around and realized it was below their recommendation.  oh well.  I just sent them out anyway; I was sick of dealing with them at that point :)

    LS/others- 'gypped' is actually a really offensive term....  I never knew it was offensive either until a few years ago.  But it's now been explained to me (many many times) why it is, so I try not to use it either.  In Debbie's defense though, it's not as well-educate of a term as "retard" or "gay" though!  I'm glad Emily piped in with the education though :)
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_minnesota-minneapolis-st-paul_vistaprint-mess-up-follow-up-aka-bridezilla-moment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:81Discussion:f148ec0e-7686-4df6-8217-0368949d831cPost:8716625a-6a47-40ec-a213-23c56b322197">Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment : I completely agree with this. It stereotypes an entire culture, which isn't ok. It's like the term "Indian giver" or others that I don't particularly want to type. Even if some members of the culture behaved a certain way, making a blanket insult about an entire group is ignorant. I'm sure that's not how you meant it, OP, but it's good to be aware of these things. ETA: And LittleSweetie, I'm surprised that you're defending this. Not all gypsies swindled people, and I'm disappointed that you're implying otherwise. It's the same as implying that all Polish people are stupid, that all Jewish people are cheap, or that all Black men are deadbeat drug addicts. It's just not the best expression to use.
    Posted by polichik[/QUOTE]

    Wow...is this the current stereotype of Black men these days? Really?
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  • babybrd182babybrd182 member
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    edited December 2011
    Okay, seriously, can we just move on? Enough with all the PC stuff..it was taken out of context, she apologized, nuff said.

    Thanks for the vistaprint info.
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  • debbieupperdebbieupper member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_minnesota-minneapolis-st-paul_vistaprint-mess-up-follow-up-aka-bridezilla-moment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:81Discussion:f148ec0e-7686-4df6-8217-0368949d831cPost:856761f2-f7ed-4e73-a33f-6f9e5112f02e">Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment : Wow...is this the current stereotype of Black men these days? Really?
    Posted by eagles347[/QUOTE]

    Haha, boy, I hope not. Not by my book, Eagles!
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.weddings.com/Sites/Weddings/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_minnesota-minneapolis-st-paul_vistaprint-mess-up-follow-up-aka-bridezilla-moment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:81Discussion:f148ec0e-7686-4df6-8217-0368949d831cPost:4492f3e5-e2f0-436a-a305-60967d591dfc">Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: VistaPrint mess-up follow up, aka bridezilla moment : Haha, boy, I hope not. Not by my book, Eagles!
    Posted by debbieupper[/QUOTE]
    Me neither!  the FI is black, actually, so I'm usually pretty sensitive to comments like that.  Oh well.  I'm glad there was a little "teachable moment" in all of this PC drama! :)
  • polichikpolichik member
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    edited December 2011
    I'm glad you ladies pointed that out. Just to clarify, I had a class today on substance abuse that was discussing that particular stereotype and the harm it does to society, so it was fresh in my mind. I was trying to show how unfair and inaccurate many stereotypes are, and I apologize if it came across in any way as offensive.
  • debbieupperdebbieupper member
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    edited December 2011
    It's okay, Polichik - I don't think you were trying to be rude with that any more than I was by using the term "jipped" (which I spelled wrong - does that attest to my innocence?! ;)

    Let us deem this the board post on save-the-date envelopes that went horribly awry ...

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  • debbieupperdebbieupper member
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    edited December 2011
    Update!

    Just got off a chat session with VistaPrint. They're refunding the full amount. Yay! I mean, we're sending out slightly imperfect envelopes, but so be it. Not a biggie.

    I am really glad they came through and gave such great customer service. They also requested that I send them a physical example so they can see exactly what I mean and try to fix it. I think most people don't order full-color full-bleed envelopes so they don't encounter this often.

    Anyways, I'm happy now!
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  • polichikpolichik member
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    edited December 2011
    Great to hear, Debbie! I'm so glad it worked out for you :) You'll have to send a pic when they work out!
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