you've got to be kidding me

jaycee7389 · May 2011

On saturday we recieved a letter from our condo association saying that a neighbor complained that we have been disrupting them 2-3x a week between the hours of 1-3am. The letter also said we had to follow up saying we are resolving the matter, and if we do not we will be fined.

Are you kidding? We are never home anymore because we are always at work. And when we are home, we are sleeping or watching tv. We have not had guests over in months and it's just the two of us. There is absolutely no way we could be disrupting anyone, especially at that time of night.

I e-mailed the lady back and explained our situation and told her we would like to resolve the issue but honestly have no idea what it is referring to. She wrote back to us and all she said was "it was obviously bad enough that a neighbor had to write us a letter and if someone complains again you will be fined". WTF do i do now?

CN: someone wrote a letter to our condo assoc. saying we are disrupting them late at night, but there is no possible way we have been.

kd.joseph · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_youve-got-kidding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:13b00e3d-09f3-458c-88e5-588cae263c40Post:7fc78b71-5a43-4355-ba3c-a8e5ff1800bb">Re: you've got to be kidding me</a>:
[QUOTE]"I'm sorry, but this neighbor must have us confused with another unit. Unless he or she can provide evidence in support of the complaint, then I am going to report this to both the association and the local police as unprovoked harassment."
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

I think this is the correct response.

Why couldnt these people have just come to your door and asked you politely to keep it down before they went to these extremes. I too have to wonder if they have you confused with someone else.

Blueyed228 · May 2011

Can they fine you without proof? What if you had some crazy neighbor who just doesnt like you?

Celles · May 2011

"I'm sorry, but this neighbor must have us confused with another unit. Unless he or she can provide evidence in support of the complaint, then I am going to report this to both the association and the local police as unprovoked harassment."

jaycee7389 · May 2011

lol to milkduds

blue-i'm not sure if they can or not, but i sure as hell won't pay it. we are positive we haven't done anything, and i'm wondering if someone secretly has an issue with one of us? i'm not sure why though.

OBX2011 · May 2011

Is there any proof of this? How many times have they called regarding this said complaint? Has it been so loud that they have felt the need to call the police? Are they 100% certain it's you? Have they bothered checking with other neighbors or just singling you out?

I would tell this lady that unless she has contacted ALL neighbors to be 100% certain that it's you and unless the police actually show up at your door in the middle of the night regarding said complaint, that this could be considered discrimination. That'll shut her ass up in a heartbeat....condo's, apts, etc. hate the word "Fair Housing"

Do you feel comfortable chatting with the neighbors w/out it getting into a "he said...she said" match?

It's what I do so let me know if I can be of any further help

Steph0871 · May 2011

Am I having a case of deja vu or did you already vent about this on SB?

nda_roxybabe · May 2011

Bleh we had similiar (ish) issues and almost got evicted. I went in and sat down with the leasing staff and explained the situation then I checked with several neighbors and they said they didn't hear anything. Luckily it never escalated but it SUCKED.
I'd speak with other neighbors and sit down face to face with management.

jaycee7389 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]Is there any proof of this? How many times have they called regarding this said complaint? Has it been so loud that they have felt the need to call the police? Are they 100% certain it's you? Have they bothered checking with other neighbors or just singling you out? I would tell this lady that unless she has contacted ALL neighbors to be 100% certain that it's you and unless the police actually show up at your door in the middle of the night regarding said complaint, that this could be considered discrimination. That'll shut her ass up in a heartbeat....condo's, apts, etc. hate the word "Fair Housing" Do you feel comfortable chatting with the neighbors w/out it getting into a "he said...she said" match? It's what I do so let me know if I can be of any further help :)
Posted by OBX2011[/QUOTE]

not at all! we have asked her to be more specific and if she has proof, and she keeps giving cryptic answers like the one in my OP. bf wants to knock on everyone's doors but i don't really think anyone is going to admit it if it were them, or else they would have tried talking to us first. the police haven't come, no one has complained TO us.

i didn't even think about discrimination, because it could be that we are the youngest couple in our building. everyone else seems to be retired or up in age.

nda_roxybabe · May 2011

Checking iwth neighbors will help give you and idea if they've heard any noise from you or elsewhere.

jaycee7389 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_youve-got-kidding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:13b00e3d-09f3-458c-88e5-588cae263c40Post:f017564b-6f88-4bd6-8591-c6262b12ea19">Re: you've got to be kidding me</a>:
[QUOTE]Am I having a case of deja vu or did you already vent about this on SB?
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

i said something about it on a complaints thread or something like that, but it was never discussed and it was before i heard back from the condo assoc. lady.

nda_roxybabe · May 2011

Yea, there was another thread like this but before the condo lady replied.

alyssag721 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_youve-got-kidding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:13b00e3d-09f3-458c-88e5-588cae263c40Post:7fc78b71-5a43-4355-ba3c-a8e5ff1800bb">Re: you've got to be kidding me</a>:
[QUOTE]"I'm sorry, but this neighbor must have us confused with another unit. Unless he or she can provide evidence in support of the complaint, then I am going to report this to both the association and the local police as unprovoked harassment."
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

<div>This. </div><div>
</div><div>Some people are just nasty. We got a wooden table from ikea to set next our bbq on the porch but it was late when we got it so we decided to wait until after work the next day to set it up. The asshat in another unit complained about the brown box ruining his view and reported us. There was also an adorable group of kids that used to play outside but no longer do because he reported them for picking flowers.</div><div>
</div><div>He grows a lot of plants on his balcony and I have seriously considered filling a super-soaker with bleach to spray on his porch and kill them all because he is such a douchenut.</div>

jaycee7389 · May 2011

as a few people have said I feel like they have us confused with another unit..but the strange thing is we haven't heard any disruptions ourselves. i am a very light sleeper and have only been woken up once by people on their deck, so i feel like i would've heard if someone was being disruptive multiple times a week.

OBX2011 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_youve-got-kidding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:13b00e3d-09f3-458c-88e5-588cae263c40Post:cc3ed195-a029-42f0-b323-d14c7b21b87c">Re: you've got to be kidding me</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: you've got to be kidding me : not at all! we have asked her to be more specific and if she has proof, and she keeps giving cryptic answers like the one in my OP. bf wants to knock on everyone's doors but i don't really think anyone is going to admit it if it were them, or else they would have tried talking to us first. the police haven't come, no one has complained TO us. i didn't even think about discrimination, because it could be that we are the youngest couple in our building. everyone else seems to be retired or up in age.
Posted by jaycee7389[/QUOTE]

Sometimes people are scared to confront their neighbor about noises b/c they think the other party will retaliate or something, so maybe that is why they didn't come to you first. If you are on good terms with the immediate neighbors, I would give a friendly knock and have a nice conversation with them.

I would also go in the office and speak with them face to face like Roxy said and get to the bottom of this. She should have written down each and every complaint as it was called in and have a record of this somewhere. Tyoically the 1st is a verbal warning, the 2nd is a written warning and the 3rd is a legal warning and/or possible eviction depending on the severity of the noise level. For instance, someone having a loud TV is very different from 20 friends partying on a Friday night with loud music and beer bottles everywhere.

If this has ANYTHING to do with you guys being younger, then that IS flat out discrimination but you have to be 100% sure that is the ONLY reason they are accusing you of this.

Hopefully that's not what it's about and someone has a case of mistaken neighbors.

jaycee7389 · May 2011

OBX- we haven't had guests over since the superbowl..literally. and that was just a few couples, not a raging party or anything. the letter from the condo assoc. was the first warning we have gotten, and it didn't say anything about multiple complaints, it said "a neighbor has complained that 2-3x a week you have been disrupting them between the hours of 1-3am".

OBX2011 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]OBX- we haven't had guests over since the superbowl..literally. and that was just a few couples, not a raging party or anything. the letter from the condo assoc. was the first warning we have gotten, and it didn't say anything about multiple complaints, it said "a neighbor has complained that 2-3x a week you have been disrupting them between the hours of 1-3am".
Posted by jaycee7389[/QUOTE]

Ohhhh no I didn't mean to imply you DID have lots of guests over or multiple complaints, was just giving examples.

I would just cut the biitch, lol

SarahPLiz · May 2011

I wish our condo board was as responsive. The vacant unit next to me has had some sort of alarm going off in it for at least 9 months, and even with at least monthly complaints, I still come home and hear the beeping. I have to put the TV on while I read or the beeping will drive me nuts.

My upstairs neighbor decided to vacuum at 2am one day last week, and that was irksome, but he warned us that when he's upset he cleans, sometimes loudly.. and it was only one night. I can't wait to hear all the complaints we get when the baby comes!

jaycee7389 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: you've got to be kidding me : Ohhhh no I didn't mean to imply you DID have lots of guests over or multiple complaints, was just giving examples. I would just cut the biitch, lol
Posted by OBX2011[/QUOTE]

i know lol, i was just saying that these people picked the most boring couple ever to accuse of being partiers or whatever the accusation even is???

bf is getting so heated, i'm sure he'd like to! lol

SarahPLiz · May 2011

Maybe you snore and don't know it?

jaycee7389 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]Maybe you snore and don't know it?
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]

i'm guessing we're both sleepwalkers and have been banging pots and pans every night

SarahPLiz · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_youve-got-kidding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:13b00e3d-09f3-458c-88e5-588cae263c40Post:d3bfc986-c18e-4a1e-b9b3-dd7504e8f0d0">Re: you've got to be kidding me</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: you've got to be kidding me : Sarah, is it like one beep every few minutes? If so, it's probably a smoke alarm beeping because it needs a new battery. Maybe the condo board would be more responsive to a potential fire hazard.
Posted by LucyHC[/QUOTE]
No, its a constant fast beeping. ANd it must be hardwired to something to go off for over 9 months. Any battery would have gone out by now. I need to email them again.

polichik · May 2011

Before you talk to them, I would read up on and print all rental board laws relating to noise disturbances and recording complaints. I'm not sure if Pittsburgh is like San Francisco, but here you basically have to not pay rent for a year and break your neighbor's door down before they'll evict you (I kid you not, my MOH's dad is a landlord and has several people who haven't paid in 11 months but he can't evict them). I'm not at all encouraging anyone to take advantage of being a renter, but many citieis have pretty specific criteria about fining and evicting. I'd know exactly what you rights are beforehand.

jemmini6 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]"I'm sorry, but this neighbor must have us confused with another unit. Unless he or she can provide evidence in support of the complaint, then I am going to report this to both the association and the local police as unprovoked harassment."
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

This. Also see if you have a copy of your CC&Rs and see what they say their protocol is for noise complaints (as far as notifications, record keeping and fines). Nothing gets through to asshats like that more than having their own literature to back you up.

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